[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Originally Posted by Rusty

Maybe we should change the title of the thread to" Wish List for the New Z."

My idea.

Use the Alfa Romeo 4C as an idea for base construction. The carbon fiber tub with bolt-on aluminum sub-frames, plastic/carbon fiber body panels. It still can be a front mid-engine sports car (think the lay-out like a small Viper ACR, but not the look). 3L V6, twin turbo, 400 or so hp. 6 speed sequential tranny. 6 piston front, 4 piston rear brakes. A true LSD. Computer nannies that you have full control over. Like Rain, Street, Race mode. Fully adjustable suspension. 100" wheelbase. 19" rims with 295's front, and 345's rear of sticky rubber. Think the weight could be under 2,800 lbs. Price, depends on how far you want to go with the light weight stuff, and the quality of the parts.

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

And then u woke up from your sleep lol

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You're speaking in hypothetics. Your friend who is giving you info doesn't know what he's talking about because the only people who know the weight of the next Z are in the actual production lab. There's Been "NO INFO WHATSOEVER" and the most viable info we have is that the next Z will be a suped up Juke 3 door. The 5 door Juke is 2800lbs Soooooo? Even with the most ridiculous rumor in automotive history. The Z would probably be down 550lbs in weight. No one knows anything. So don't trust what you hear. It's as much speculation as this whole thread.

As far as no enthusiasts willing to pay? The only reason why people complain about the Z's power, in reality. It's cuz, our engines cost over $15,000 to properly add forced induction with a proper suspension tune to hold the power. If you own an auto. $23,000.

The Z still out handles all of the competition. The Z, if it remains at the same exact price? All they have to do is compete with the v6 Camaro, ecoboost Mustang and the challenger R/T.
The Z is soon to be no longer the fastest v6 on the market. Because we were stagnant and other vehicles progressed. They caught up to us.

We WILL NOT be able to compete with V8's without adding a premium to the price.

Mercedes gave infiniti, the turbo 4 for the Q50 and it will be an identical 208hp as in the C300.

Nissan may adopt the C400 engine which is a turbo 3.0 cranking 328hp. Maybe the Z will continue to only push 332hp. But if it has a turbo engine? Expect a $3,000 premium on that alone. If the in-house tune it and it's 400hp off the rip to compete with v8's? Expect it to cost in the range of v'8's just like the 09 z34. The Mustang was 30,000 back then. So was the Z. So look at a Mustang GT base price. And I give you the price of a 380-400hp Z.

People will pay cuz the Z driving experience is incomparable to other cars in the range. Muscle are all inherently similar. Just each model is better at one particular thing over the other..

Originally Posted by Zbo

You guys are almost embarrassing with your pipe dreams about tt 3.0 new z"s and all that mumbo jumbo.

The z failed in sales and even the Nissan heads admitted they need to downsize for a more fuel efficient engine and it may not even be called a z! Nissan has no clue what they're doing all they do is release cvt garbage and they are bottom of the consumer ratings report and the leaders of recalls.
But ya keep speculating and typing nonsense about 400hp z "s and stupid rumors that aren't even confirmed.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by FPenvy

soooooooooooo the info is released and it's all said and done we gang banging this guy?

i'll bring the lube......or we just using blood as lube?

Originally Posted by FPenvy

soooooooooooo the info is released and it's all said and done we gang banging this guy?

i'll bring the lube......or we just using blood as lube?

Originally Posted by Volk Z

I am a huge Z fan. Ive owned 2 350z's and a Nismo 370z. What I suspect if the new Z is released and they don't cut from the lineup (its always a possibility) is the following.

Nissan has made numerous comments about a revolution not evolution as well as a lighter more compact car. I actually test drove a BRZ the other day for fun and the size felt ok for my 5"9 150 pounds but I couldn't imagine that car for a larger person. The new Z will need to be larger then that but still retain a weight of 3000 pounds or under to compete with a 4 cylinder turbo option.

That being said the BRZ weighs around 2700ish pounds. With 200hp it is very slow.
If the new Z can shoot for a sub 3000 weight and having a lower end 4 cylinder turbo option with 240-260hp and a V6TT option with around 400hp they would then beat out the FRS/BRZ with the lower end and the mustang/Camaro end with the upper end.

Pricing would need to be appropriate like below
Base Z35- $28,000-$31,000 (4 Cylinder Turbo)
V6TT Z35- $38,000- $45,000 (6 cylinder turbo)

There should also be a significant exterior change for the 4cyl vs the 6 cyl.
One thing I hate about the Mustang is ALL models pretty much look the same. Nissan needs to make the higher end like a top of the line Vette vs the base.
Things like functional vents, carbon parts, lower stance, bigger brakes etc for the higher performance model.

I will say as of right now for 2016 new model cars there is nothing I would buy. The new STI is ugly, The EVO is dead, the 2016 370z with the noise cancelling crap, Honda and Toyota offer nothing, the new mustang is fun to drive but where I live its like the most common car purchased. THe brs/frs is just too damn slow for me coming from a Nismo 370z and a modded 350Z.

I am very hopeful in Toyota or Nissan releasing something amazing in the next 2 years that will be like the 90s where amazing Japanese cars ruled the car world!

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

The problem with Toyota and Honda, if they ever come out with sporty cars, it will be a 4 crapper with some sort of hybrid

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Originally Posted by sambar

Personally I don't mind if its a 4 cylinder, I just want it to be fast. If its a sports car it needs to accelerate well. Even the Lotus Elise is a 4 cylinder but it goes. So I don't care if they achieve that by making it lighter or adding a turbo or just a bigger engine, it needs to be fast and handle well.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by FPenvy

lotus weighs about 1000 lbs less I would hope its quick with a supercharged 4 banger lol