[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

UNKNOWN_370

2016 Infiniti Q50 Finally Adding Turbocharged Four-Cylinder Engine Option

See when dumb azzes speak. No one listens.

As we can see. The Q50 is already sourced with a Mercedes engine. I believe the Q chassis is 160lbs lighter than the G. Putting the car around 3500lbs I imagine the turbo 4 would be approximately 80lbs lighter than the 6. That's about 3,420. Inherently, the Z is 400lbs lighter than the Q

If Nissan follows all recent traditions in the Z, it may mimic certain aspects of the Q? Also first rumor that had validity was multiple engines for the Z. So an entry level turbo4 is possible.

I would imagine Nissan would tune it for at least 240horses. If the Z shares the gripz/Juke chassis? Cut down to sports car size? The Z May be as light as 2500lbs with a 240hp 4 banger entry car? 208 to 211 is guaranteed From the Benz Engine.

When you look at facts that you find in between the rumor mill? You can easily see where the possibilities are?

When you're a dumb pos troll using consumer reports as your guideline to prove a non point... And you think people are delusional with no real basis or rationalization, and your only deductions come in the formation of repeated dots to prove a non point. You kill a thread horribly and you insult the intelligence of your peers and make a fool of yourselves.

The ones who should be embarrassed are the ones dribbling useless unsubstantiated rhetoric to make opinionated claims.

Jungle Z you

__________________
Favorite Quote.
"I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

RobV

edit....old article

Rusty

Did I every call you any names? NO! So why start!

Well.... read an article too. It said that Nissan is putting the new Z on hold. Nissan was to have a 3 tiered sports car models. The GT-R, followed by the new Z, then an entry level based on the IDX. But because of poor sales of the FR-Z. Nissan is rethinking it's line up. So now then might be only two sports cars. The GT-R, and a entry level 4 banger called the Z maybe.

There have been so many articles written about what Nissan is doing. You don't know what to believe. And Nissan isn't talking.

Me delusional? No....I'm not sitting here. Posting what I hope Nissan will bring out. Nissan will bring to market on what it thinks it can sell. But, it's good entertainment.

__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

jchammond

This is the first ~Z~ i've ever owned.
at 6'6"285,,, i have no problems with leg or head room.
i have less leg room in a Camaro,Mustang & Vette.
I'm one of those people who don't sell or trade vehicles;I love mine!!!

__________________
MazWorx built long block | FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 | IPT built 7A/T

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

triso07

Again. 385-420ish hp, most likely from a boosted 6. Drop 100lbs. Fresh new design = will sell.

UNKNOWN_370

At the end of the day. All Nissan has dropped is riddles.truths combined with lies.

The dumb azz or troll comment wasn't geared toward you. But the dot comment was. We're not delusional. Just curious and hopeful. If it bothers y'all that we speculate? There's thousands of threads in the forum. No one has to be here if it's uninteresting.

But answering what you're saying. They canned the whole idx idea in exchange for a multi-engined Z at one point... So??? More speculation.

It makes more sense to make multiple tiers of Z's like Camaro and Mustang do than to make a third sports car.

But then again... Anything is possible? Like you said, Nissan will put out what they think it can sell.

The 2016 Camaro was designed based on forum chatter. So I would hope Nissan is seeing our enthusiasm and hoping they want to win our hearts into yet another Z product? To do that. Being the largest Z34 community. I'm sure Nissan observes our critiques.and in some cases, stupid comments.

__________________
Favorite Quote.
"I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

Rusty

Have to agree with you on the Camaro. Chevy has gearheads in the right places in management. Nissan has accountants and engineers in management. Very few headgeads. Because of the accountants. They're trying to design a car to fit a price point that they (the bean counters) think will sell. Never mind what the gearheads in the company is telling them. Just look at some of the stuff they have released lately. Too me, none of it is appealing. Who Nissan needs, is someone like Ralph over at Dodge SRT.

The multiple tier, multiple engine may sound good. But look at past Nissan history. They never really did much of that with cars. On the trucks they have.

Guess my sarcastic humor was missed. People are delusional when they post big hp numbers. Look around at everything. All the companies are going smaller. Hell, Dodge is dropping the Hemi in 2019. Going with 4's and V6's. Porsche is going smaller too, sooner. Have wait and see on what drops out of the tree.

__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

OTW Z-Boy

I'll chime in... And if nissan is reading please take my top ten as a recipe for the Z35 id like to see for about 50k (60k seems a little too high for my pocket book for a non luxury car)
1. 400+ twin turbo v6
2. 2+2 configuration (let's get that kick back from our insurance shall we)
3. Interior upgrade from a materials stand point (even the nismo still feels like a sport IMO)
4. Tech package needs to be standard on the z35 (and lose the fake car noise thing... Seriously I have a PS4 for that)
5. Continue to offer base / sport / and Nismo models (point of difference between base and sport can be the power plant base: 4 single turbo / sport: 6 tt / nismo: 6tt with a tune less considerate to mpg
6. Clean up and define aero differences between nismo and non nismo models (they've gotten too close) and bring back the number plate
7. Upgrade suspension to include ability to adjust camber to +\- 3.0 degrees (because racecar)
8. Upgrade to slotted/drilled rotors on sport and nismo models
9. Paddle shifters on all models. AT/MT shouldn't matter
10. Last but not least put the damn thing into production already I'm over waiting!

__________________
2014: Nismo 370z #495 Magnetic Black - Stillen Gen3 CAI | SPL F/R Camber Arms | HKS Hypermax IV | JDM Rear Fog Light |GT-R Push Start Button | Z1 2 Piece D/S | Illuminated Kicks | Tommykaira | Work VS-XX BKB Step Lip +23/+13 19" 9.5/11 | Fast Intentions RHFC TDX CBE 12" CF | EcuTek

tvfreakazoid

50k is still to expensive. That's why the last gen of Z's were discontinued

2 by 2...hands of blue

__________________
Mudders milk

UNKNOWN_370

In reality. When I think about it. I'm going to combine some rumors and some real concepts and create a scenario for you guys. I think all of us, including me have gotten caught up in numbers.

Fact. The Nissan Juke weighs 2866lbs with 5 doors.
Fact. The GripZ is a 3 door RWD VERSION of the Juke.
They are saying the GripZ is the next Z.

What if? It's just the chassis that's being used as the next Z chassis???

Remember, one of the first rumors about the z was it will be on a separate chassis from the infiniti FM platform.

If a Juke is 2866lbs? How much would a GripZ weigh without the back doors? Just looking at a 4 seat g37 coupe vs a 370z. It loses 400lbs. In the case of the grip Z vs a Juke... It would be 2866 minus let's say 300lbs. Then lower the routine to car height and we probably lose another 80 to 100lbs?

So a GripZ is probably 2,566 lbs.

A derived Z could be 2,450lbs with a 2.0t engine with 212hp off the same chassis???? Let's be pessimistic and say 2,550lbs.

That brings me to a car like the Alfa Romeo4c which weighs 2,300lbs, has a 2.0t with DCT, gets 238hp but gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds. It's top speed is 175mph.

At that weight, a 2.0 turbo Z would be competitive with v8 muscle at a third of the displacement like the 4c. Maybe not as fast though. Probably getting to 60 in 5 seconds and a top speed of 155mph.

Let's say, Nissan takes this same chassis and makes a second Z with the Mercedes 3.0 v6 turbo and keeps the same 332hp but this car weighs in at an even 2,700lbs.

A car of this weight would be a marvel and change the game.

The lightweight GripZ chassis is there. ☑
The proven jatco 7at is there. ☑
The Mercedes derived engines. There! ☑
The know-how based off all there Juke experience to make a ultralight vehicle. There. ☑

It's not far fetched fellas. In fact every aspect of the core of my analysis comes from facts. Not rumors.

__________________
Favorite Quote.
"I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

zguynate

^^I like the way you think. Your observations would make an awesome Z imo.

__________________
2009 370z touring w/sports package

tvfreakazoid

Well I mentioned something similar. ENGINE OPTIONS!
if Nissan wants to sell more, I never understood why they didn't offer a 4cynlinder engine option. It would of been cheaper and therefore more people could of afford it.
It makes sense.
Let's hope a 4 crapper isn't the only engine option.
And it doesn't look like a juke.

2 by 2...hands of blue

__________________
Mudders milk

6spd

Isnt the 4c only 2300lbs because it lacks every amenity possible, even a radio and A/C?

__________________
-Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

Rusty

Maybe we should change the title of the thread to" Wish List for the New Z."

My idea.

Use the Alfa Romeo 4C as an idea for base construction. The carbon fiber tub with bolt-on aluminum sub-frames, plastic/carbon fiber body panels. It still can be a front mid-engine sports car (think the lay-out like a small Viper ACR, but not the look). 3L V6, twin turbo, 400 or so hp. 6 speed sequential tranny. 6 piston front, 4 piston rear brakes. A true LSD. Computer nannies that you have full control over. Like Rain, Street, Race mode. Fully adjustable suspension. 100" wheelbase. 19" rims with 295's front, and 345's rear of sticky rubber. Think the weight could be under 2,800 lbs. Price, depends on how far you want to go with the light weight stuff, and the quality of the parts.

Attached Images

nissan-370z-NIZMO-09.jpg (264.9 KB, 19 views)

__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

tvfreakazoid

If so, no thanks. Plus its not worth 60k

2 by 2...hands of blue

__________________
Mudders milk