[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Originally Posted by Volk Z

I am a huge Z fan. Ive owned 2 350z's and a Nismo 370z. What I suspect if the new Z is released and they don't cut from the lineup (its always a possibility) is the following.

Nissan has made numerous comments about a revolution not evolution as well as a lighter more compact car. I actually test drove a BRZ the other day for fun and the size felt ok for my 5"9 150 pounds but I couldn't imagine that car for a larger person. The new Z will need to be larger then that but still retain a weight of 3000 pounds or under to compete with a 4 cylinder turbo option.

That being said the BRZ weighs around 2700ish pounds. With 200hp it is very slow.
If the new Z can shoot for a sub 3000 weight and having a lower end 4 cylinder turbo option with 240-260hp and a V6TT option with around 400hp they would then beat out the FRS/BRZ with the lower end and the mustang/Camaro end with the upper end.

Pricing would need to be appropriate like below
Base Z35- $28,000-$31,000 (4 Cylinder Turbo)
V6TT Z35- $38,000- $45,000 (6 cylinder turbo)

There should also be a significant exterior change for the 4cyl vs the 6 cyl.
One thing I hate about the Mustang is ALL models pretty much look the same. Nissan needs to make the higher end like a top of the line Vette vs the base.
Things like functional vents, carbon parts, lower stance, bigger brakes etc for the higher performance model.

I will say as of right now for 2016 new model cars there is nothing I would buy. The new STI is ugly, The EVO is dead, the 2016 370z with the noise cancelling crap, Honda and Toyota offer nothing, the new mustang is fun to drive but where I live its like the most common car purchased. THe brs/frs is just too damn slow for me coming from a Nismo 370z and a modded 350Z.

I am very hopeful in Toyota or Nissan releasing something amazing in the next 2 years that will be like the 90s where amazing Japanese cars ruled the car world!

Originally Posted by FPenvy

soooooooooooo the info is released and it's all said and done we gang banging this guy?

i'll bring the lube......or we just using blood as lube?

Originally Posted by FPenvy

soooooooooooo the info is released and it's all said and done we gang banging this guy?

i'll bring the lube......or we just using blood as lube?

Originally Posted by Rusty

Did I every call you any names? NO! So why start!

Well.... read an article too. It said that Nissan is putting the new Z on hold. Nissan was to have a 3 tiered sports car models. The GT-R, followed by the new Z, then an entry level based on the IDX. But because of poor sales of the FR-Z. Nissan is rethinking it's line up. So now then might be only two sports cars. The GT-R, and a entry level 4 banger called the Z maybe.

There have been so many articles written about what Nissan is doing. You don't know what to believe. And Nissan isn't talking.

Me delusional? No....I'm not sitting here. Posting what I hope Nissan will bring out. Nissan will bring to market on what it thinks it can sell. But, it's good entertainment.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

At the end of the day. All Nissan has dropped is riddles.truths combined with lies.

The dumb azz or troll comment wasn't geared toward you. But the dot comment was. We're not delusional. Just curious and hopeful. If it bothers y'all that we speculate? There's thousands of threads in the forum. No one has to be here if it's uninteresting.

But answering what you're saying. They canned the whole idx idea in exchange for a multi-engined Z at one point... So??? More speculation.

It makes more sense to make multiple tiers of Z's like Camaro and Mustang do than to make a third sports car.

But then again... Anything is possible? Like you said, Nissan will put out what they think it can sell.

The 2016 Camaro was designed based on forum chatter. So I would hope Nissan is seeing our enthusiasm and hoping they want to win our hearts into yet another Z product? To do that. Being the largest Z34 community. I'm sure Nissan observes our critiques.and in some cases, stupid comments.

Originally Posted by OTW Z-Boy

I'll chime in... And if nissan is reading please take my top ten as a recipe for the Z35 id like to see for about 50k (60k seems a little too high for my pocket book for a non luxury car)
1. 400+ twin turbo v6
2. 2+2 configuration (let's get that kick back from our insurance shall we)
3. Interior upgrade from a materials stand point (even the nismo still feels like a sport IMO)
4. Tech package needs to be standard on the z35 (and lose the fake car noise thing... Seriously I have a PS4 for that)
5. Continue to offer base / sport / and Nismo models (point of difference between base and sport can be the power plant base: 4 single turbo / sport: 6 tt / nismo: 6tt with a tune less considerate to mpg
6. Clean up and define aero differences between nismo and non nismo models (they've gotten too close) and bring back the number plate
7. Upgrade suspension to include ability to adjust camber to +\- 3.0 degrees (because racecar)
8. Upgrade to slotted/drilled rotors on sport and nismo models
9. Paddle shifters on all models. AT/MT shouldn't matter
10. Last but not least put the damn thing into production already I'm over waiting!

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

In reality. When I think about it. I'm going to combine some rumors and some real concepts and create a scenario for you guys. I think all of us, including me have gotten caught up in numbers.

Fact. The Nissan Juke weighs 2866lbs with 5 doors.
Fact. The GripZ is a 3 door RWD VERSION of the Juke.
They are saying the GripZ is the next Z.

What if? It's just the chassis that's being used as the next Z chassis???

Remember, one of the first rumors about the z was it will be on a separate chassis from the infiniti FM platform.

If a Juke is 2866lbs? How much would a GripZ weigh without the back doors? Just looking at a 4 seat g37 coupe vs a 370z. It loses 400lbs. In the case of the grip Z vs a Juke... It would be 2866 minus let's say 300lbs. Then lower the routine to car height and we probably lose another 80 to 100lbs?

So a GripZ is probably 2,566 lbs.

A derived Z could be 2,450lbs with a 2.0t engine with 212hp off the same chassis???? Let's be pessimistic and say 2,550lbs.

That brings me to a car like the Alfa Romeo4c which weighs 2,300lbs, has a 2.0t with DCT, gets 238hp but gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds. It's top speed is 175mph.

At that weight, a 2.0 turbo Z would be competitive with v8 muscle at a third of the displacement like the 4c. Maybe not as fast though. Probably getting to 60 in 5 seconds and a top speed of 155mph.

Let's say, Nissan takes this same chassis and makes a second Z with the Mercedes 3.0 v6 turbo and keeps the same 332hp but this car weighs in at an even 2,700lbs.

A car of this weight would be a marvel and change the game.

The lightweight GripZ chassis is there.
The proven jatco 7at is there.
The Mercedes derived engines. There!
The know-how based off all there Juke experience to make a ultralight vehicle. There.

It's not far fetched fellas. In fact every aspect of the core of my analysis comes from facts. Not rumors.

Originally Posted by Rusty

Maybe we should change the title of the thread to" Wish List for the New Z."

My idea.

Use the Alfa Romeo 4C as an idea for base construction. The carbon fiber tub with bolt-on aluminum sub-frames, plastic/carbon fiber body panels. It still can be a front mid-engine sports car (think the lay-out like a small Viper ACR, but not the look). 3L V6, twin turbo, 400 or so hp. 6 speed sequential tranny. 6 piston front, 4 piston rear brakes. A true LSD. Computer nannies that you have full control over. Like Rain, Street, Race mode. Fully adjustable suspension. 100" wheelbase. 19" rims with 295's front, and 345's rear of sticky rubber. Think the weight could be under 2,800 lbs. Price, depends on how far you want to go with the light weight stuff, and the quality of the parts.