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Originally Posted by triso07 How to sell a new Z: 3100lbs or lighter 375hp base v6 420hp turbo nismo variant Slightly better interior materials Clean body lines (NOT that stupid
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Correct me if I'm wrong but how many 3100 lb car with 375-420 hp are out there with a price tag between 30-45k? Let's be real and not ask Nissan to do the impossible. I think every Z owner would trade theirs in for this new model if it is produce but to get that kind of performance we have to dig deeper into our pockets and pay more! Last edited by wanderer1234; 09-10-2015 at 01:09 AM. |
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And the Nissan Z is more like 3400lb or heavier 2 by 2...hands of blue
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drop the size of the engine and add roids? the pumbing would probably make up the difference in weight saved in a smaller engine. we're not getting any lighter these days with all these epa/safety targets that need to be met. |
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Don't forget - turbos add weight. A 3.7 VQ needs a platform large enough to carry it, so I wouldn't bank on reducing the overall platform size from the 370, and that's if you don't go up in displacement. A 3.0L V6 TT is going to take a similar amount of room when you add turbo hardware and the necessary cooling components. You probably don't want to reduce the vehicle's track or wheelbase in their respective widths and lengths if you want to use the 370 as a baseline in performance numbers. If you rework the 3.7 with direct injection, any performance gains going DI on an NA platform will likely be offset in hardware revisions such as the inclusion of cam-driven fuel pumps, etc. I fail to see where you get an extra 25hp from where we are and reduce weight by 200lbs. After all, what you're looking for is a net gain in performance from a 370, right? There is a paradigm in car buying today - you can buy a sports car that has two (and ONLY two) of the three following qualities: cheap, fast, lightweight. You can buy a car that is cheap and fast, but not lightweight. You can buy a car that is lightweight and cheap, but not fast. And finally, you can buy a car that is lightweight and fast, but it won't be cheap. This thread is precisely why Nissan has no idea what to do with the Z - its own buyers don't know what the hell they want besides a unicorn, and there aren't any automakers in the business of building unicorns. I can bet Nissan's research study on current Z owners looks a lot like this: 22% want the car to be faster and more powerful 25% want the car to be cheaper and lighter 22% want the car to be lighter and more powerful 31% want a GT-R but can't afford it. Of those buyers, 68% won't buy one new, 12% can't afford one, and 20% will be mad that it doesn't have enough power. That's all from me for the day.
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