[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

jcasti07 · 08-20-2015, 05:48 PM

I really wish they'd drop that "V" design on the front grill of all their new vehicles. It's not nice enough to slap on every model... especially not a Z

eaurouge · 08-25-2015, 12:06 PM

New Nissan Z car to be a crossover - Autocar

Radical next-gen Zed to be previewed by baby SUV concept at Frankfurt - and it's due on sale by 2017

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Nissan is preparing a radical sports crossover to bring its famous Z badge back to the masses - and the new model is poised to hit showrooms within the next 18 months.

The Japanese brand has been weighing up a variety of options on where to take the famous Z brand as the current 370Z is phased out by 2017. It has considered a higher-powered sports car and a cheaper, more basic four-cylinder model - as previewed by the iDx compact coupé concepts that were revealed at the Tokyo motor show in 2013.

However, sources indicate that Nissan has settled on a more radical solution: making the next Z car a small sports crossover. It’s expected to showcase how such a model could look as early as the Frankfurt show next month.

Blog - Is a Z crossover a wise move for Nissan?

An SUV-influenced Z car is likely to infuriate purists, but Nissan believes it can still satisfy a large number of Z fans while also tapping into a huge new customer base, particularly in the US, where the badge has equity and the crossover market far outweighs the sector for small sports cars.

Senior Nissan officials have recently hinted at a rethink on the Z strategy. Earlier this summer, the firm’s chief creative officer, Shiro Nakamura, told Australian media: “I don’t think the  next one [Z car] is going to be the 390Z. It’s not growing because it’s already big enough. You know, 350 started with 240, 300, 350 and then came 370. I don’t think we should go higher.

“We haven’t yet decided anything about whether next-generation Z should be anything larger or with more power,” he said.

In a clear reference to a switch of vehicle type, Nakamura added: “We  need to take another path. I feel Z needs more revolution than evolution. I think  GT-R has to stay the most high-performance symbol  of Nissan technology and Z  is a more affordable sports car or a sporty car to get the younger people.”

Nissan executive vice-president Trevor Mann has supported Nakamura’s view. He told Autocar: “We do  know that Z, as a sub-brand  if you like, has high equity.  The market is not like it  used to be, though, so I  think that if you do something, you’ll need to do something which is quite special, to attract the segment.”

When asked to comment directly on Nakamura’s statement, Mann said: “If that’s what Nakamura said, then I guess he might be right, in terms of re-establishing the links to something people can connect to.”

That’s likely to be a reference to price. It’s thought the new Z crossover will be notably cheaper than a £30k 370Z and its range-toppers could overlap with the lower-end editions of the Qashqai.

The new Z will be similar in size to the Nissan Juke although, unlike the current version of that car, the new model will be based on the Renault-Nissan Alliance’s latest CMF B platform. Its engine line-up will be able to include the full range of 1.6-litre turbocharged petrol engines.

It’s unclear if the new model will be a coupé-esque three-door or if Nissan will include a pair of rear doors with hidden handles. It’s likely that the roofline will compromise rear cabin space for adults, though, making the Z crossover a car with occasional rear seats at best. The more extreme concept, which will be designed to gauge reaction after the Frankfurt show, may even be a two-seater only.

The new platform has the flexibility to accommodate hybrid powertrains, so it’s possible the concept at least will showcase a set-up featuring an electric motor to drive one of the axles.

Nissan is likely to argue that the GT-R has managed to mix strong performance credentials with a rear-biased four-wheel drive system and that a hybrid crossover can provide some of the same character - while potentially also offering zero-emissions running for short distances.

The Z should allow Nissan to compete in the lucrative middle ground on small crossovers, attracting buyers who don’t want as large a car as the Qashqai but who find the Juke too quirky nor not sporty enough.

The demographics of Juke buyers are said to have confounded Nissan product planners. The average age of Juke buyers is in the late 40s, but this is based on really young purchasers and a surprisingly large band of elderly customers.

A Z-badged crossover would also be a legitimate choice of vehicle for the Nismo tuning division. Nissan hopes to extend the sub-brand’s influence with cars like the forthcoming Pulsar Nismo, but senior figures insist it will not be applied to models that don’t allow it to deliver genuine performance credentials.It’s thought the continued strength of Juke sales has allowed Nissan to consider adding a further small crossover to its line-up.

The Juke is expected to evolve for its next incarnation, which will bring a switch to the same CMF B platform as the new Z crossover (and the next Micra) but only mild changes to its exterior styling.

“We think the Juke still looks a really fresh car,” Mann said. “Sales are still really strong and the customer base continues to expand for that type of vehicle. I think that’ll be reflected in what comes next for Juke.”

Source: New Nissan Z car to be a crossover | Autocar

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-26-2015, 02:55 AM

Whose the f#%kin' mental muthaf#&kin midget that came up with the world's stupidest f#@kin idea to make our sports car a 3 door Juke on a sports suspension???
This better be a f#+kin lie cuz I'm about to explode if there's any shred of proof?

Nissan if this is true? You just hit Toyota appliance status and deserve NO RESPECT!!

6spd · 08-26-2015, 08:34 AM

Do I like the idea of a car like that, sure, absolutely. Do I think it should be a "revolutionized" Z car, not a chance. Makes me love mine even more now though. I bet it'll be a Nissan version of the new Infiniti Q30/QX30.

6spd · 08-26-2015, 08:48 AM

Z_ealot · 08-26-2015, 09:16 AM

I dont know if anybody noticed, but that place has no idea what the hell they are talking about when it comes to Z cars....just look at their little excerpts for the history of the Z car below their main article lol

mishuko · 08-26-2015, 09:28 AM

imo that looks like the next generation JUKE.

maybe they took a bit too much juke-ing in the juker and got all juked up to be juking serious.

bunch of jukes.

sx moneypit · 08-26-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

I dont know if anybody noticed, but that place has no idea what the hell they are talking about when it comes to Z cars....just look at their little excerpts for the history of the Z car below their main article lol

Firebase99 · 08-26-2015, 09:59 AM

They are really going to take 50 years of an iconic image as the Z and make it an SUV? Not a chance. Itll die before that happens.

my2004Z · 08-26-2015, 10:36 AM

This is what happens when the bean counters are running the show...

Zbo · 08-26-2015, 10:43 AM

Embarrassing , Carlos Ghosn is ruining Nissan enthusiast image . Now their whole lineup is overpriced recall issue filled cars. Nissan is close to last in consumer satisfaction .

Z_ealot · 08-26-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbo

Embarrassing , Carlos Ghosn is ruining Nissan enthusiast image . Now their whole lineup is overpriced recall issue filled cars. Nissan is close to last in consumer satisfaction .

Seeing as mr. Ghosn is the one who ultimately made the decision to bring the gt-r to the states i would disagree, also how is their whole lineup overpriced when they sell for a few thousand below every other brand aside from hyundai and kia? Lastly....have you actually been paying attention to the auto industry as a whole? If so you would realise that every manufacturer within the last few years have had major recalls on all their cars and i just read an article this morning saying that consumer confidence in the auto industry is on a downward slope based on all the recalls that have been issued by all manufacturers. Also from what I've read nissan actually improved their reliability ratings within the last year

2009_370z · 08-26-2015, 12:38 PM

If that is the truth..

Goodbye Nissan. It was nice knowing you.

b15 · 08-26-2015, 02:57 PM

This has to be a joke...

FPenvy · 08-26-2015, 03:01 PM

looks like someone got really high and went onto photoshop.

"lets take a GT-R roof, maxima front, murano size/stance, and Z emblem.....perfect."

*bong rip*

08-20-2015, 05:48 PM	#511 (permalink)
jcasti07 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: El Paso Posts: 171 Drives: red '15 Mustang GT Rep Power: 13	I really wish they'd drop that "V" design on the front grill of all their new vehicles. It's not nice enough to slap on every model... especially not a Z sunkist350z likes this.

08-26-2015, 02:55 AM	#513 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Whose the f#%kin' mental muthaf#&kin midget that came up with the world's stupidest f#@kin idea to make our sports car a 3 door Juke on a sports suspension??? This better be a f#+kin lie cuz I'm about to explode if there's any shred of proof? Nissan if this is true? You just hit Toyota appliance status and deserve NO RESPECT!! zguynate and Zipper 104 like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

08-26-2015, 08:34 AM	#514 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Do I like the idea of a car like that, sure, absolutely. Do I think it should be a "revolutionized" Z car, not a chance. Makes me love mine even more now though. I bet it'll be a Nissan version of the new Infiniti Q30/QX30. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

08-26-2015, 08:48 AM	#515 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	lgarcia and arends177 like this. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

08-26-2015, 09:16 AM	#516 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10091	I dont know if anybody noticed, but that place has no idea what the hell they are talking about when it comes to Z cars....just look at their little excerpts for the history of the Z car below their main article lol 6spd likes this.

08-26-2015, 09:28 AM	#517 (permalink)
mishuko A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bouncin on tigga Posts: 8,062 Drives: '12 Z Rep Power: 9435	imo that looks like the next generation JUKE. maybe they took a bit too much juke-ing in the juker and got all juked up to be juking serious. bunch of jukes. UNKNOWN_370, Jordo!, Z_ealot and 1 others like this.

08-26-2015, 09:59 AM	#519 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	They are really going to take 50 years of an iconic image as the Z and make it an SUV? Not a chance. Itll die before that happens. __________________ '14 3.8 Genesis Coupe, '13 Volvo S60, '04 Honda Accord, '13 370Z-sold, '05 350Z Touring-sold, '92 300Z Twin Turbo-sold, '82 280ZX-gone, '79 260Z-gone

08-26-2015, 10:36 AM	#520 (permalink)
my2004Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 285 Drives: 09' 370Z w/Sport 7AT Rep Power: 37	This is what happens when the bean counters are running the show...

08-26-2015, 10:43 AM	#521 (permalink)
Zbo Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 20 Drives: 2014 M235I Rep Power: 0	Embarrassing , Carlos Ghosn is ruining Nissan enthusiast image . Now their whole lineup is overpriced recall issue filled cars. Nissan is close to last in consumer satisfaction .

08-26-2015, 12:38 PM	#523 (permalink)
2009_370z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: BAY AREA Posts: 297 Drives: 09 370Z MPB 7AT Rep Power: 10	If that is the truth.. Goodbye Nissan. It was nice knowing you. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ *SEIBON/EVO-R/AAM COMPETITION/TSW WHEELS/MICHELIN/Z1/EBC*

08-26-2015, 02:57 PM	#524 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36571	This has to be a joke... UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

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