[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Zcup · 08-03-2015, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman71

I want to see a V6 TT version for the Nismo and a Single Turbo for the other versions.

Let's beef it up and not be like the FRS or BRZ (of which I think of it as a lowered camry s)

...lowered Camry S

Lukcas61 · 08-03-2015, 10:19 PM

I think most of us here would agree that there should be 3 different trims for the new Z. A regular v6, TT v6, and a v8. That would be the most logical route, maybe.

6spd · 08-04-2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukcas61

I think most of us here would agree that there should be 3 different trims for the new Z. A regular v6, TT v6, and a v8. That would be the most logical route, maybe.

That's a little presumptuous, don't you think?

RicerX · 08-04-2015, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukcas61

I think most of us here would agree that there should be 3 different trims for the new Z. A regular v6, TT v6, and a v8. That would be the most logical route, maybe.

I am the 1%, apparently.

Jordo! · 08-04-2015, 10:59 AM

Unless I missed something last month, the latest semi-reliable rumor is that they have axed the idx and are now looking to downsize the Z a bit to keep it closer to the 86/Miata territory.

There has been ZERO mention of an OEM V8 option -- ZERO.

If they keep the price below 30K base, add a well sorted turbo 4 or small turbo 6, shed 300+ LBS, maintain approximate grunt while further fine tuning handling and braking, I'M still in.

I think it's still all up in the air tho' because Toyota is bringing something to the table with a BMW engine in it and Mazda is at least pondering a new rotary. Neither will be able to compete with the GT-R, so they will either be Z fighters or define their own niche as the new "not a Porsche, but close, and cheaper" category, where the Z currently stand (and may or may not remain).

I honestly don't think the Japanese or Germans are interested in taking on the "Pony-hey-now-we-can-also-turn-and-brake-just-like-real-sports-cars-sorta-cars. That's a strictly American (and maybe Australian by way of Holden/GM) thing.

kay.zee · 08-04-2015, 11:05 AM

Lol there's not even a new Z confirmed ... If they announce one I imagine a 2019 / 2020 release . We should all just shut up and stop speculating untill Nissan gets it together and stops offering overpriced nismo vehicles and gives enthusiasts a non niche car .

BC416 · 08-04-2015, 11:06 AM

No chance at a V8. The Ford dealership is thataway ------>

A lot of people seem to be against a turbo 4 but I think as an entry model with around 300+hp it would be fun. Do your basic turbo mods and you are looking at more WHP than the current 3.7 makes with bolt ons.

Jordo! · 08-04-2015, 11:13 AM

Actually, if you take note of what GM and Ford have done, they've actually been struggling more to build cars like the Japanese and Germans rather than the opposite.

Muscle? No problem. Modern, reasonably fuel efficient engines bolted to reliable cars with nice fit and finish, wrapped in a body that doesn't look like a car from 60 years ago and can actually turn and brake? That's been the US car companies' big battles -- most noticeably in the latest gen Mustang and Camaro.

V8's remain rare, mainly luxury/top of the line options for every other nation who has worked primarily more on making the most out of smaller, high output engines. The rest (to varying degrees) they already had sorted out 30 years ago.

Final thought: Lets say they go with the smaller option. Imagine a < 3000 lb 325 hp/250 tq turbo 4 -- something in that ball park is do-able using the Mercedes parts bin, I believe (which is quite possibly where a turbo motor would be sourced). Even at the same relative price-point as the Z34, it would eat the 86/MX-5 for lunch, and easily match or out-handle them too (just like now...), but be much more nimble feeling than the current gen, get better mpg and have lots of room to grow.

NRTim · 08-04-2015, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukcas61

I think most of us here would agree that there should be 3 different trims for the new Z. A regular v6, TT v6, and a v8. That would be the most logical route, maybe.

Screw the NA V8 and throw in a TT V8 and price it at $60K....

b15 · 08-04-2015, 06:16 PM

The best thing Nissan can do is to retire the Z nameplate instead of continuing to tarnish its legacy. It's a low volume car that Nissan will always put behind the GTR. Instead of taking it down a class and introducing a half *** Z35, just retire it gratefully.

Firebase99 · 08-04-2015, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15

The best thing Nissan can do is to retire the Z nameplate instead of continuing to tarnish its legacy. It's a low volume car that Nissan will always put behind the GTR. Instead of taking it down a class and introducing a half *** Z35, just retire it gratefully.

Blasphemous!! Lol. It's a heritage car!! Short of an apocalypse they'll always be a Z. I think. Though a hiatus might be coming. Like Z32 to 33.

NRTim · 08-04-2015, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15

The best thing Nissan can do is to retire the Z nameplate instead of continuing to tarnish its legacy. It's a low volume car that Nissan will always put behind the GTR. Instead of taking it down a class and introducing a half *** Z35, just retire it gratefully.

They need to retire the next gen Z, with them putting a TT V6 in it of course....

They should revive the Silvia and drop the turbo 4 banger in that imo

Nick216 · 08-04-2015, 07:24 PM

Retire it so i can have the most beautiful and fastest nismo from the factory.

Eclipz · 08-04-2015, 07:28 PM

If the next Z has a V8 I will eat my left nut

Firebase99 · 08-04-2015, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclipz

If the next Z has a V8 I will eat my left nut

*Replies in a creepy, evil voice petting a white cat on my lap*. "Gooood....good."

08-04-2015, 10:59 AM	#470 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Unless I missed something last month, the latest semi-reliable rumor is that they have axed the idx and are now looking to downsize the Z a bit to keep it closer to the 86/Miata territory. There has been ZERO mention of an OEM V8 option -- ZERO. If they keep the price below 30K base, add a well sorted turbo 4 or small turbo 6, shed 300+ LBS, maintain approximate grunt while further fine tuning handling and braking, I'M still in. I think it's still all up in the air tho' because Toyota is bringing something to the table with a BMW engine in it and Mazda is at least pondering a new rotary. Neither will be able to compete with the GT-R, so they will either be Z fighters or define their own niche as the new "not a Porsche, but close, and cheaper" category, where the Z currently stand (and may or may not remain). I honestly don't think the Japanese or Germans are interested in taking on the "Pony-hey-now-we-can-also-turn-and-brake-just-like-real-sports-cars-sorta-cars. That's a strictly American (and maybe Australian by way of Holden/GM) thing. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

08-04-2015, 11:06 AM	#472 (permalink)
BC416 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NJ Age: 37 Posts: 718 Drives: 2012 KAD 6MT Rep Power: 592	No chance at a V8. The Ford dealership is thataway ------> A lot of people seem to be against a turbo 4 but I think as an entry model with around 300+hp it would be fun. Do your basic turbo mods and you are looking at more WHP than the current 3.7 makes with bolt ons. Jordo! likes this. __________________ F.I. / K&N / 180 / Forgestar

08-04-2015, 11:13 AM	#473 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Actually, if you take note of what GM and Ford have done, they've actually been struggling more to build cars like the Japanese and Germans rather than the opposite. Muscle? No problem. Modern, reasonably fuel efficient engines bolted to reliable cars with nice fit and finish, wrapped in a body that doesn't look like a car from 60 years ago and can actually turn and brake? That's been the US car companies' big battles -- most noticeably in the latest gen Mustang and Camaro. V8's remain rare, mainly luxury/top of the line options for every other nation who has worked primarily more on making the most out of smaller, high output engines. The rest (to varying degrees) they already had sorted out 30 years ago. Final thought: Lets say they go with the smaller option. Imagine a < 3000 lb 325 hp/250 tq turbo 4 -- something in that ball park is do-able using the Mercedes parts bin, I believe (which is quite possibly where a turbo motor would be sourced). Even at the same relative price-point as the Z34, it would eat the 86/MX-5 for lunch, and easily match or out-handle them too (just like now...), but be much more nimble feeling than the current gen, get better mpg and have lots of room to grow. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 08-04-2015 at 11:23 AM.

08-04-2015, 06:16 PM	#475 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36571	The best thing Nissan can do is to retire the Z nameplate instead of continuing to tarnish its legacy. It's a low volume car that Nissan will always put behind the GTR. Instead of taking it down a class and introducing a half *** Z35, just retire it gratefully. Zipper 104 likes this.

08-04-2015, 07:24 PM	#478 (permalink)
Nick216 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Long Island Posts: 48 Drives: 15' Nismo 6mt Rep Power: 10	Retire it so i can have the most beautiful and fastest nismo from the factory. __________________ 2015 Pearl White 370z Nismo 6mt Stillen G3 Intakes~Airlift 3H~CS Lipkit~Amuse CF Wing

08-03-2015, 10:19 PM	#467 (permalink)
Lukcas61 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: California Posts: 104 Drives: 13 Nissan 370z Red Rep Power: 10	I think most of us here would agree that there should be 3 different trims for the new Z. A regular v6, TT v6, and a v8. That would be the most logical route, maybe.

08-04-2015, 11:05 AM	#471 (permalink)
kay.zee Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Walnut Creek,Ca Posts: 67 Drives: not a nissan Rep Power: 0	Lol there's not even a new Z confirmed ... If they announce one I imagine a 2019 / 2020 release . We should all just shut up and stop speculating untill Nissan gets it together and stops offering overpriced nismo vehicles and gives enthusiasts a non niche car .

08-04-2015, 07:28 PM	#479 (permalink)
Eclipz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Tampa Posts: 360 Drives: 06 Eclipse GS Rep Power: 12	If the next Z has a V8 I will eat my left nut

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