[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

b15 · 03-26-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

yea but why spend that much money on a bmw when all it's going to do is break down and throw more lights up on your dashboard then a decorated house on christmas.

i'd much rather buy the vette

To each his own! I wouldn't. But I'm not a fan of american sports cars.

MR.nismo · 03-26-2015, 07:04 PM

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Other than price i don't know why people always feel compelled to compare the Z to the Mustang. They're different cars with different markets. I guess the beauty of the Z is it really has no direct competitor. No its not the fastest, no its not the best handler, but when looking at it as a package, It does everything well but nothing great. Most other cars in its price range excel in one area and really lack at others. That is ultimately what drove me to buy a Z.

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Yes sir, well said. Is not the fastest nor the best in any specific area but is a well put package and for 30some up to low 40's I think is a good price. And you are correct, there is no much of a competition when you compare a two seater rwd 6 cylinder that is not in the "exotic" or the expensive class (anything over $75K). The Z is not about high HP and that other non-sense stuff but is about a spirit and the true essence of a sports car. Is a car that drives and feels as it was intended.

Firebase99 · 03-26-2015, 07:35 PM

Yes sir, well said. Is not the fastest nor the best in any specific area but is a well put package and for 30some up to low 40's I think is a good price. And you are correct, there is no much of a competition when you compare a two seater rwd 6 cylinder that is not in the "exotic" or the expensive class (anything over $75K). The Z is not about high HP and that other non-sense stuff but is about a spirit and the true essence of a sports car. Is a car that drives and feels as it was intended.[/QUOTE]

Kinda disagree with all due respect. When I bought my Z in '13 I cross shopped the Mustang. I bet the majority of us did. Yes, yes the 5.0 is faster in all aspects, etc. I'll be sounding like an 86 buyers excuse though, what made me buy the 370 was A) I had a 260, 280, 300, 350, 370. And B) that truly INTIMITE relationship with a true 2 seat sports coupe. No matter how fast the Stang is it could NEVER offer that feeling to me. It's not all about HP with these cars, obviously. Otherwise we would all be in a 5.0. It's the same price point but a very different driving experience.

Edit: C'mon driving a small 2 seat Z car, its like piloting a fighter jet. Its the one thing I miss from my 370 as opposed to me 3.8 Genny. Its still way smaller and a better drivers car than the Mustang but not quite the relationship of the 370. But I gave that up for a more GT, softer ride, with the the tech and leather with more power. No, not quite as fast as a 370, but VERY close for less money. Lets see what the Z35 offers and I might find myself in one. Yet again.

Tadpole · 03-26-2015, 07:49 PM

Comparison is due to the same price range I believe and whether you have kids or not. Mustangs and F150's are a dime a dozen and really don't appeal to me because of it. You can still give the 5.0 hell if you are a better driver so horsepower isn't Everything.

Firebase99 · 03-26-2015, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole

Comparison is due to the same price range I believe and whether you have kids or not. Mustangs and F150's are a dime a dozen and really don't appeal to me because of it. You can still give the 5.0 hell if you are a better driver so horsepower isn't Everything.

Totally agree. I've embarrassed many 5.0's at the track in Sebring with my 370. That being said many have embarrassed me. Equal everything the 5.0 is faster. Though not by as much as most opinions think. IMO. LOL.

MagmaRed370z · 03-27-2015, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

The TT Z32 was running 911 Turbos back in the day!! Like you said, in '90's prices the car was $60K.....and it died because EXACTLY that reason. Nissan would be blind to their own history to that again. The overwhelming majority of prospective Z buyers will NOT spend 60 large on a "Nissan" (Yes, yes, GTR-way different market and the R's have had a long pedigree of being Supercars). I think itll share alot with the Q's and for that reason theyll be able to keep the cost down and still get 400+HP. Starting at $33k to a maxed platform at maybe $51K.

Well said. +1!!!

janglez · 03-27-2015, 10:43 AM

at 60k nissan can keep it

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2015, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Yes sir, well said. Is not the fastest nor the best in any specific area but is a well put package and for 30some up to low 40's I think is a good price. And you are correct, there is no much of a competition when you compare a two seater rwd 6 cylinder that is not in the "exotic" or the expensive class (anything over $75K). The Z is not about high HP and that other non-sense stuff but is about a spirit and the true essence of a sports car. Is a car that drives and feels as it was intended.

Kinda disagree with all due respect. When I bought my Z in '13 I cross shopped the Mustang. I bet the majority of us did. Yes, yes the 5.0 is faster in all aspects, etc. I'll be sounding like an 86 buyers excuse though, what made me buy the 370 was A) I had a 260, 280, 300, 350, 370. And B) that truly INTIMITE relationship with a true 2 seat sports coupe. No matter how fast the Stang is it could NEVER offer that feeling to me. It's not all about HP with these cars, obviously. Otherwise we would all be in a 5.0. It's the same price point but a very different driving experience.

Edit: C'mon driving a small 2 seat Z car, its like piloting a fighter jet. Its the one thing I miss from my 370 as opposed to me 3.8 Genny. Its still way smaller and a better drivers car than the Mustang but not quite the relationship of the 370. But I gave that up for a more GT, softer ride, with the the tech and leather with more power. No, not quite as fast as a 370, but VERY close for less money. Lets see what the Z35 offers and I might find myself in one. Yet again.[/QUOTE]

Unlike the 86, the Z is NOT dealbreaker slow. It's the fastest NA V6 on the market or at least it was until 2013? (If another nab6 hasnt come along?)

Firebase99 · 03-27-2015, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Kinda disagree with all due respect. When I bought my Z in '13 I cross shopped the Mustang. I bet the majority of us did. Yes, yes the 5.0 is faster in all aspects, etc. I'll be sounding like an 86 buyers excuse though, what made me buy the 370 was A) I had a 260, 280, 300, 350, 370. And B) that truly INTIMITE relationship with a true 2 seat sports coupe. No matter how fast the Stang is it could NEVER offer that feeling to me. It's not all about HP with these cars, obviously. Otherwise we would all be in a 5.0. It's the same price point but a very different driving experience.

Edit: C'mon driving a small 2 seat Z car, its like piloting a fighter jet. Its the one thing I miss from my 370 as opposed to me 3.8 Genny. Its still way smaller and a better drivers car than the Mustang but not quite the relationship of the 370. But I gave that up for a more GT, softer ride, with the the tech and leather with more power. No, not quite as fast as a 370, but VERY close for less money. Lets see what the Z35 offers and I might find myself in one. Yet again.

Unlike the 86, the Z is NOT dealbreaker slow. It's the fastest NA V6 on the market or at least it was until 2013? (If another nab6 hasnt come along?)[/QUOTE]

You mean short of Porsche's and other "exotics" I assume? Then again...NA 6 Cylinder....? Ehhhhhh?

MagmaRed370z · 03-27-2015, 12:53 PM

In all reality though, I am really curious how Nissan is going to change the interior. of the Z35 I wish they keep the 3 pod center console gauges. Love those! (plus they are like a Z signature). I would also want to see a better navigation console with more voice features.

What would you like to see in terms of Interior changes? (Sorry to deviate from the "Z35 Price Topic")

Firebase99 · 03-27-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

In all reality though, I am really curious how Nissan is going to change the interior. of the Z35 I wish they keep the 3 pod center console gauges. Love those! (plus they are like a Z signature). I would also want to see a better navigation console with more voice features.

What would you like to see in terms of Interior changes? (Sorry to deviate from the "Z35 Price Topic")

Better side visibility. Part of the reason I was in a drag race at every stop light with that car, just to be out in front to KNOW exactly what was around me.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

In all reality though, I am really curious how Nissan is going to change the interior. of the Z35 I wish they keep the 3 pod center console gauges. Love those! (plus they are like a Z signature). I would also want to see a better navigation console with more voice features.

What would you like to see in terms of Interior changes? (Sorry to deviate from the "Z35 Price Topic")

I imagine the gauges and speed/tach/info pods are going to become ultra high res mini computer screens in the traditional Z shape with configurable gauges

RicerX · 03-27-2015, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

You mean short of Porsche's and other "exotics" I assume? Then again...NA 6 Cylinder....? Ehhhhhh?

NA V6... not NA flat 6

Davey · 03-27-2015, 02:30 PM

Yeah the BRZ/FR-S and Miata do provide some cornering thrills and good feel (and in the case of the Miata, wind in your hair) but along with it comes the complete lack of anything you'd call quick acceleration compared to... A V6 Camry or minivan, certainly not the Z.

The 370Z puts down a respectable 0-100 time and runs the quarter mile in a respectable 13-something seconds, while offering a great sports car driving experience. Not the greatest sports car driving experience, but a great one nonetheless.

If people want to give up even more of that experience to mash the gas to a sub-13-second quarter mile that's their choice but the point is, they're all choices, there is no right or wrong, except for the individual.

I don't like how the last gen Mustang drives but I do hold out hope for the new one (have not tried it yet) although I'm not encouraged by the reviews so far.

njobe89 · 03-27-2015, 02:54 PM

one thing i will probably never get is why people bash other cars. i appreciate all cars, whether it's a civic or a mustang. they are all special in their own ways. people take time and their hard earned money to modify them. given that sometimes they come out hideous, but still it's their style.

03-26-2015, 07:35 PM	#108 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	Yes sir, well said. Is not the fastest nor the best in any specific area but is a well put package and for 30some up to low 40's I think is a good price. And you are correct, there is no much of a competition when you compare a two seater rwd 6 cylinder that is not in the "exotic" or the expensive class (anything over $75K). The Z is not about high HP and that other non-sense stuff but is about a spirit and the true essence of a sports car. Is a car that drives and feels as it was intended.[/QUOTE] Kinda disagree with all due respect. When I bought my Z in '13 I cross shopped the Mustang. I bet the majority of us did. Yes, yes the 5.0 is faster in all aspects, etc. I'll be sounding like an 86 buyers excuse though, what made me buy the 370 was A) I had a 260, 280, 300, 350, 370. And B) that truly INTIMITE relationship with a true 2 seat sports coupe. No matter how fast the Stang is it could NEVER offer that feeling to me. It's not all about HP with these cars, obviously. Otherwise we would all be in a 5.0. It's the same price point but a very different driving experience. Edit: C'mon driving a small 2 seat Z car, its like piloting a fighter jet. Its the one thing I miss from my 370 as opposed to me 3.8 Genny. Its still way smaller and a better drivers car than the Mustang but not quite the relationship of the 370. But I gave that up for a more GT, softer ride, with the the tech and leather with more power. No, not quite as fast as a 370, but VERY close for less money. Lets see what the Z35 offers and I might find myself in one. Yet again. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. Last edited by Firebase99; 03-26-2015 at 07:42 PM. Reason: Just more

03-26-2015, 07:49 PM	#109 (permalink)
Tadpole A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lockhart, TX Posts: 1,082 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z A7 Rep Power: 18	Comparison is due to the same price range I believe and whether you have kids or not. Mustangs and F150's are a dime a dozen and really don't appeal to me because of it. You can still give the 5.0 hell if you are a better driver so horsepower isn't Everything. b15 likes this. __________________ Takeda TR3009P Short Ram Intakes, Custom Dual Exhaust, X-Piped with 18" Resonators & TopSpeed Axle Backs. EVO-R Led Third Foglight,

03-27-2015, 10:43 AM	#112 (permalink)
janglez Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: 44130 Posts: 330 Drives: 2017 Infiniti Q60 Rep Power: 15	at 60k nissan can keep it Zbrah likes this. __________________ *>>> 2017 INFINITI Q60 3.0 TWIN TURBO V6 AWD PREMIUM*

03-27-2015, 02:54 PM	#120 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174284	one thing i will probably never get is why people bash other cars. i appreciate all cars, whether it's a civic or a mustang. they are all special in their own ways. people take time and their hard earned money to modify them. given that sometimes they come out hideous, but still it's their style. Davey likes this. __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

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Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	Yeah the BRZ/FR-S and Miata do provide some cornering thrills and good feel (and in the case of the Miata, wind in your hair) but along with it comes the complete lack of anything you'd call quick acceleration compared to... A V6 Camry or minivan, certainly not the Z. The 370Z puts down a respectable 0-100 time and runs the quarter mile in a respectable 13-something seconds, while offering a great sports car driving experience. Not the greatest sports car driving experience, but a great one nonetheless. If people want to give up even more of that experience to mash the gas to a sub-13-second quarter mile that's their choice but the point is, they're all choices, there is no right or wrong, except for the individual. I don't like how the last gen Mustang drives but I do hold out hope for the new one (have not tried it yet) although I'm not encouraged by the reviews so far.