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Rusty 10-16-2017 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3700682)
:icon14: :p :icon14:

Want a 2017 Viper ACR. But they are going for $135,000+ and the price is raising. :(

Hotrodz 10-16-2017 09:55 PM

I will keep mine until they either outlaw it or I die. She is as fast as many of the fastest cars on track right now and I have been slowly adding aero ACR style. Just a few more pieces to go. She will get an engine up grade and get even faster in the future. Yeah, she is a garage queen for sure.

Rusty 10-16-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3700710)
I will keep mine until they either outlaw it or I die. She is as fast as many of the fastest cars on track right now and I have been slowly adding aero ACR style. Just a few more pieces to go. She will get an engine up grade and get even faster in the future. Yeah, she is a garage queen for sure.

You're at where I want to be. :shakes head: :tup:

Hotrodz 10-16-2017 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3700713)
You're at where I want to be. :shakes head: :tup:

LMAO, well you got me wanting several of your upgrades too. Keeping up with the Jones's keeps my wallet lite. :ugh2::owned:

280driver 10-17-2017 06:21 PM

I’ve about given up on Nissan.......this is not exciting.....

https://youtu.be/ipHM6tZpMdI

Zingston 10-17-2017 07:55 PM

Wow, you're right! About as exciting as chewing tin foil and hitting my shins with a Louisville Slugger. Let's hope the Supra meets expectations.

Spooler 10-17-2017 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3700716)
LMAO, well you got me wanting several of your upgrades too. Keeping up with the Jones's keeps my wallet lite. :ugh2::owned:

Tracking your car you need that diff cooler. No doubt.

Rusty 10-17-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3700964)
Tracking your car you need that diff cooler. No doubt.

:D

Just wish my arm would heal quicker. :shakes head:

Spooler 10-17-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3700966)
:D

Just wish my arm would heal quicker. :shakes head:

Wish my old insurance company would pay up.

Rusty 10-17-2017 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3700968)
Wish my old insurance company would pay up.

I replied in your thread.

vtecchippy 10-18-2017 07:37 PM

This thread got sad fast....brb crying in corner.

hadokenuh 10-19-2017 10:43 AM

While I am looking forward for the updated Z, I still like the current generation very much. Test drove a 2016 Nismo 6MT a couple of weeks ago. I felt they have perfected this generation. From the suspension to ride/comfort and the manual transmission shifts so much better than the one in the 2009 I used to have.

I am very tempted to pickup a 2015+ Nismo 6MT.

TN.Z 10-19-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hadokenuh (Post 3701305)
While I am looking forward for the updated Z, I still like the current generation very much. Test drove a 2016 Nismo 6MT a couple of weeks ago. I felt they have perfected this generation. From the suspension to ride/comfort and the manual transmission shifts so much better than the one in the 2009 I used to have.



I am very tempted to pickup a 2015+ Nismo 6MT.



I don’t think they have made any transmission changes at all.

LENTZ 10-19-2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3701369)
I don’t think they have made any transmission changes at all.

New Exedy clutch this year :driving:

my2004Z 10-19-2017 09:05 PM

Tokyo Auto Show is right around the corner! Z Concept will be there...

Nissan Z Concept Car Tokyo Auto Show 2017

At least we'll know... :ugh2:

hadokenuh 10-19-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3701369)
I don’t think they have made any transmission changes at all.

Maybe not published but definitely it shifts much better. More precise and much less notchy.

Rusty 10-19-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 3701473)
Tokyo Auto Show is right around the corner! Z Concept will be there...

Nissan Z Concept Car Tokyo Auto Show 2017

At least we'll know... :ugh2:

55,000 British pounds is $72,000 USD. :barf:

280driver 10-20-2017 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 3701473)
Tokyo Auto Show is right around the corner! Z Concept will be there...

Nissan Z Concept Car Tokyo Auto Show 2017

At least we'll know... :ugh2:

Old speculation amigo. Not happening I’m afraid. I hope I’m wrong.

6spd 10-20-2017 07:06 PM

If those prices are correct they can go f*ck themselves...

Zingston 10-20-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 3701696)
If those prices are correct they can go f*ck themselves...

No doubt, right!?

ToonaFish 10-20-2017 11:29 PM

I think we all have to be honest with ourselves here. Chances are, we won't see a Z35 or R36 concept any time soon. It may be 2 or 3 years until we see one.

The hints, of such concepts not showing up, are there. Why would Nissan update the R35 just for 2017, only to release the R36 in 2018 or 2019? Right now it seems the next GTR will come in 2020 at the earliest. By the same token, why would Nissan make updates for 2018 sport trims and above, as well as design heritage edition for the base trim, only to gut their current Z34 sales by unveiling a Z35 concept now? These "minor" updates cost money to brainstorm, R&D, and adjust for production procedures. These updates just won't happen for 1 or 2 model years if they have production models of the next generation arriving after that amount of time (in 1-2 years).

But who knows? Maybe we are all wrong and Nissan will surprise us with at least one sports car concept either this month or next year. What we do know is the Nismo Leaf and an electric crossover will be there. There are less and less incentives to offer performance cars as the world is being forced to go the way of electric and self-driving cars.

In the case that the Z line is discontinued, we can either go with forced induction or jump ship to other brands. Some excellent candidates would be Camaro SS, Stingray, Cayman, Supra MKV FT-1, or used R35. As people age, they tend to make more money so hopefully current Z owners would be able to upgrade to cars like that.

-ZS-Carpenter 10-21-2017 04:51 AM

It's going to look really bad if the 40th and 50th anniversary editions are the same car

280driver 10-21-2017 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3701754)
It's going to look really bad if the 40th and 50th anniversary editions are the same car

That’s a great point!

Magic Bus 10-21-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3701476)
55,000 British pounds is $72,000 USD. :barf:

Yup, definitely not the same vision as when the original Z was created. However times have changed and unless they’re going to manufacture in China or a very poor country, their prices are going to be in line with all the other top notch sports cars.

I’ve owned my M2 for 4 months now, and if the Z is faster plus drives the same or better than the M2, I’d have no objection if it’s in the $55k range.

Jordo! 10-21-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 3701473)
Tokyo Auto Show is right around the corner! Z Concept will be there...

Nissan Z Concept Car Tokyo Auto Show 2017

At least we'll know... :ugh2:

Posted 27 Jan, 2017 10:38am... :confused:

Not sure if that is anything to get to excited about. Guess we'll see next week.

ToonaFish 10-22-2017 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3701845)
Yup, definitely not the same vision as when the original Z was created. However times have changed and unless they’re going to manufacture in China or a very poor country, their prices are going to be in line with all the other top notch sports cars.

I’ve owned my M2 for 4 months now, and if the Z is faster plus drives the same or better than the M2, I’d have no objection if it’s in the $55k range.

If the next Z is offered in 3 different options just like the common rumor that's been going around, it will no doubt put its competition to shame. Those 3 options are 300 hp under-tuned TTV6, 400 hp TTV6, and 500 hp TTV6 hybrid.

It is well known that both of the TTV6 options are underrated in power. The 300 hp trim likely has around that much in wheel horsepower, not just bhp. The 400 hp version rates just slightly below 400 whp. This means a 370 whp Z35 will have about 430-440 bhp. That power figure puts it right under power levels of current SS and GT editions, except at 400-500 pounds lighter. The power to weight ratio of the next Z will blow the competition away, including with the help of a dual clutch transmission.

While the competition will improve right when or slightly after the next Z is released, that power-weight combo is still tough to beat. Having a twin turbo setup allows the car to be easily tuned for higher power to keep ahead of the competition, if needed. The main flaw of 350Z and 370Z is they are naturally aspirated. They cannot be easily upgraded in an affordable and profitable way for a cheap company like Nissan :icon17:. With forced induction and potentially electric motors coming, that flaw no longer holds back the next Z car.

So no, there is no need to worry about Z35 being slower than M2, M3, GT, SS, or whatever. Nothing with a gas engine near its price will beat it. It will even take on cars at 10k-20k higher in price.

I just hope we get to see at least one more model of the Z until the entire world is overrun by electric and self-driving cars.

280driver 10-22-2017 11:03 AM

What zs-carpenter said has given me hope. I can’t imagine Nissan 1) celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Z with the same car they celebrated the 40th anniversary with and 2) not having a Z to celebrate with at all. Maybe we will get a surprise this week or at least some positive news.

MCDX 10-23-2017 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ToonaFish (Post 3701740)
The hints, of such concepts not showing up, are there. Why would Nissan update the R35 just for 2017, only to release the R36 in 2018 or 2019?

By the same token, why would Nissan make updates for 2018 sport trims and above, as well as design heritage edition for the base trim, only to gut their current Z34 sales by unveiling a Z35 concept now?

Indeed the GT-R was a bigger facelift with real tuning.

The 370Z though, that was just swapping paint for a few parts. Remember they did an even bigger upgrade for the last two years of the 350Z.
Somehow, espacially the Heritage just feels like Nissan has to get rid of stock of base model parts.


Anyway I'd still be surprise to see a new Z in Tokyo at all.
I am now just sitting here and waiting for the IDS concept to become a real production car to replace my Focus.

280driver 10-23-2017 01:18 PM

“The real star of the show for Nissan, however, remains under wraps. Internal sources are being extremely tight-lipped.

What it will not be is the much rumoured replacement for the 370Z. Even in concept form that vehicles is still some time away.”

Tick64 10-23-2017 02:18 PM

^^^ Boooooo ~Fake news! I wish ;)

Gianni 10-23-2017 09:26 PM

Could they end the z? I don't want the z to die. But it seems like Nissan doesn't care about the z anymore. Waiting for the Tokyo auto show to finally give up on Nissan or not.

theDreamer 10-24-2017 08:24 AM

From some of the rumors I am hearing, Nissan is going 'big' with electric this year.
Many of the cars will be electric versions or current models or variations of the Leaf, CUV leaf, Nismo leaf, etc.

Rusty 10-24-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3702360)
From some of the rumors I am hearing, Nissan is going 'big' with electric this year.
Many of the cars will be electric versions or current models or variations of the Leaf, CUV leaf, Nismo leaf, etc.

Just to add.
Electric is the new kid on the block. Look at the number of countries, and companies that will be totally electric by 2030's. Gas is dying a quick death. So why would it make sense for a company to bring out a new gas engine car. It don't. Writing is on the wall, and companies are seeing it.

What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. :eek: It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. :mad: They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.

280driver 10-24-2017 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3702416)
Just to add.
Electric is the new kid on the block. Look at the number of countries, and companies that will be totally electric by 2030's. Gas is dying a quick death. So why would it make sense for a company to bring out a new gas engine car. It don't. Writing is on the wall, and companies are seeing it.

What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. :eek: It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. :mad: They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.

Well, you are right about the push for electric. I do think we are at least a decade away from electric being the prominent cars on the market. Honda and Toyota are both committed to electric yet they are also still developing new, exciting gas powered sports cars. If I were to buy an electric car, I would want to buy it from the company that still values sportiness and makes cars that please those that enjoy driving. I would not buy an electric car from a company that has nothing but electric SUVs made to please Moms driving car pools.

Come on Nissan....

JARblue 10-24-2017 12:56 PM

I would gladly drive a GT-R with an electric motor on each wheel :driving:

Ghostvette 10-24-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3702416)
Just to add.
Electric is the new kid on the block. Look at the number of countries, and companies that will be totally electric by 2030's. Gas is dying a quick death. So why would it make sense for a company to bring out a new gas engine car. It don't. Writing is on the wall, and companies are seeing it.

What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. :eek: It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. :mad: They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.

Now if you want to be a REAL conspiracy theorist... :rofl2::rofl2:

Limited range on electric cars makes it easier to control the movement of the population. The government can easily round up the malcontents because we can't get more than 200 miles away.... :eek:

Wonka2581 10-24-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3702416)
Just to add.
Electric is the new kid on the block. Look at the number of countries, and companies that will be totally electric by 2030's. Gas is dying a quick death. So why would it make sense for a company to bring out a new gas engine car. It don't. Writing is on the wall, and companies are seeing it.

What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. :eek: It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. :mad: They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.


Sooo you mean to tell me the hole want to take the family on vacation is going to be out the window soon?

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Rusty 10-24-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3702465)
Now if you want to be a REAL conspiracy theorist... :rofl2::rofl2:

Limited range on electric cars makes it easier to control the movement of the population. The government can easily round up the malcontents because we can't get more than 200 miles away.... :eek:

If you REALLY want to get deep in it. Try Agenda 21.:eek: And this is a part of it. Controlling the masses, and depopulation. :eek:

The older I get, with the background that I have. The more of the pieces I see falling together on some stuff. :eek: And there is stuff that they WILL NOT tell us. :shakes head:

Ghostvette 10-24-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3702473)
If you REALLY want to get deep in it. Try Agenda 21.:eek: And this is a part of it. Controlling the masses, and depopulation. :eek:

The older I get, with the background that I have. The more of the pieces I see falling together on some stuff. :eek: And there is stuff that they WILL NOT tell us. :shakes head:

I know what you mean.... that's why getting to my fallback position involves a bit of a hike.... :ugh2:


We better get back on topic before Trips comes in and smacks us.... :ugh2:

SwissCheese 10-24-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3700932)
I’ve about given up on Nissan.......this is not exciting.....

https://youtu.be/ipHM6tZpMdI

I don't know, maybe they hid a Z concept right under our noses!

https://i.imgur.com/it6Rq0N.jpg


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