[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Magic Bus

Yes, Chuck is correct. One of the earlier concepts of the 86 cars came with the Subaru engine and gearbox from the Impreza. However actual production ended up with the Subaru engine and gearbox from the IS250. Production for both cars are done at the Subaru plant in Gunma Japan.

Dirk McGurck

FTR, I'd buy a 911 R over a Z if I was a wealthy businessman.

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Magic Bus

Not sure all of your facts are correct or interpreted correctly Ricer but I'm not going to argue them as I hope you're right on this and I'm wrong.

I'm with you that sure Nissan will most likely use the Q50/60 platform but I'd like to see Nissan integrate some of the GTR technology as well. So we'll most likely get the 3 & 400 hp tt engines. But if Nissan used the low center of gravity weight model (like the GTR) and move the transmission to the rear, but keep it a rwd. This would definitely be a Z I'd be interested in and wouldn't mind paying more for it than the current Z.

Dirk McGurck

I don't think the Z is big enough for a transmission in the rear. The GT-R and Aston Martins are both larger than the Z. Plus we have that massive fuel tank, which I honestly want to keep since we are one of the few cars capable of 500 miles between gas stops.

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RicerX

There's a video (or two) about the development of the Q50 Eau Rouge and how they got to where they got with the configuration of the prototype. When they got to the decision of using the GT-R engine, there were several reasons why they didn't go with its transmission. The first one? It didn't fit - the platform of the GT-R was designed around the chassis and powertrain. It was never intended to be a "volume" car per say, and they had the luxury of doing whatever they wanted with it.

So the transmission choice for the Eau Rouge concept? The M56 7AT (with a few tweaks). The Q50 Eau Rouge was created with a single mandate - raid the parts bin. There were to be no one-off parts. It is a GT-R motor with the AWD system and transmission from the M56S. This is why, as a concept it was completely driveable.

This circles back to my belief in shoehorning the existing 6MT into the next gen Z. The gearing is fine, and if it needs some tweaking, they can pull a 2015 Nismo and modify the final drive on it and bill it as improved acceleration or, in the opposite direction, improved fuel economy. Also, if the M's 7AT can be mated to a VR38 without extensive rework, then the Z's 6MT can be mated to the new VR30.

If the sales tank on the next gen Z, then you haven't built a new transmission that can't be used in any other model. You haven't designed a platform that won't be used elsewhere. You haven't built a motor that isn't being used elsewhere.

It doesn't get less risky than that for an automaker, honestly. All the pieces are there. It's just a matter of putting them together.

UNKNOWN_370

Nissan has axed so many concepts I'm beginning to question if the GRIP Z chassis will be used but I'm hoping. But also... the G37 was about 3700lbs and the Z is about 3,300lbs. The Q60 coupe is supposed to be about 3,400 to 3,500lbs.
If Nissan still uses the modified FM platform for the next Z? That's 3,000-3,100lbs. If you average it against the logical the current Z and G platform.

Increasing Q sales would mean the Z will see production as it shows interest in the platform.

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MagmaRed370z

Of course, more rumors but I hope that's not near the expected design (Picture).

2018 Nissan Z | car review @ Top Speed

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ped

That looks like an Altima in front. Ugh

Tick64

Looks like an aborted fetus in front. Ugh.

Dirk McGurck

I like where they said '2 seater convertible with 2.0L turbo hybrid motor'. They've been saying the same thing about the Honda S2000 coming back as such.

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Ghostvette

I'm surprised someone hasn't said this is the new Z:


Nissan Concept 2020 Vision Gran Turismo | Nissan USA

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Z_ealot

For all those hoping nissan would discontinue the Z :P


Nissan Has No Plans to Build a Smaller Miata Competitor

But not all the news from Nakamura was disappointing. He also said the GT-R and Z are permanent parts of the Nissan lineup and aren't going anywhere. So even though both cars are aging and dated, at least fans don't have to worry about them being canceled.

MagmaRed370z

I like this. At least not cancelled.

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NRTim

Stupid road and track with the old a$$ news....