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UNKNOWN_370 04-13-2017 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3640799)
Sounds like they don't have a f@cking clue on what direction, or what to do with it. :shakes head: Or maybe they are trying to throw everyone off the trail, and surprise us.

I'm so Fuckin tired of all this shyt. I'm pretty sure I WONT be excited anymore, no matter how good it is. Nissan has the most moronic PR in the industry

280driver 04-14-2017 09:29 AM

I am sad to read the Z is no longer a priority. Nissan has lost their way. I could give two craps about the GT-R because it's too expensive. While the hell would Nissan choose to give up on the typical sports car fan? If they want to sell more Z's, update the freaking thing already!

xfrgtr 04-14-2017 09:49 AM

Infiniti Q60 Black S coming to challenge BMW M4, Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe

Report: Infiniti Q60 Black S coming to challenge BMW M4, Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe

"The head of Infiniti’s Australian division, Bernard Michel, has revealed to Drive that a production version of the concept was at an “advanced” stage.
And when asked whether the production green light was given to the car, Michel reportedly indicated yes."

Nixin 04-14-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3640930)
Infiniti Q60 Black S coming to challenge BMW M4, Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe

Report: Infiniti Q60 Black S coming to challenge BMW M4, Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe

"The head of Infiniti’s Australian division, Bernard Michel, has revealed to Drive that a production version of the concept was at an “advanced” stage.
And when asked whether the production green light was given to the car, Michel reportedly indicated yes."

I will believe it, when (and BIG IF) we ever see the Q60 Black S. I for one am already not a fan of the name, Black S. Kind of sounds like 'Black A$$'.

Hotrodz 04-14-2017 11:43 AM

Yup, I think I'm done with Nissan and there nonsense. I really leaning towards buying my wife a Cadillac ATS-V.

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b15 04-14-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3640978)
I will believe it, when (and BIG IF) we ever see the Q60 Black S. I for one am already not a fan of the name, Black S. Kind of sounds like 'Black A$$'.

x2. Even more laughable if they equip it with the same 7AT used in everything else in the Infiniti lineup. At least give it a DCT.

Eagle 04-14-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3640799)
Sounds like they don't have a f@cking clue on what direction, or what to do with it. :shakes head: Or maybe they are trying to throw everyone off the trail, and surprise us.

Sadly everything they've been doing over the past 2 years since Andy Palmer left Nismo North America has reinforced how unimportant the Z is to them and motorsports in general.
  • Andy Palmer leaves Nissan in 2014
  • Nissan delays the Z35
  • Nissan cuts funding to Doran Racing and all other teams running the 370Z in the IMSA Continental Tire Sports Car Series in early December 2015.
  • Nissan hamstrings the GTR-LM Nismo Le Mans car before the race in June.
  • Nissan terminates the entire US based GTR-LM development team and racing team two days before Christmas 2015 via email. They had originally budgeted for a two year program but figured they'd cut it short by a year.
  • Rumors swirl about the Z35 over the next year, Nissan adds ASE and a Bumble Bee edition to the bountiful features offered by the Z34.
  • April 14 2017, Christian Meunier announces that "The 370Z is not a priority for us"

Zerafian 04-14-2017 02:20 PM

that 2018 whatever edition needs to be a joke. Feels like they are trying to do what american cars do and release different versions. That Z only has base brakes and its gonna cost around $38k. No one in their right mind will buy that thing.

Stright_Drop 04-14-2017 03:14 PM

Well tbh I don't think the Z its been a "priority" to Nissan for the past 5-6 years, seems like they were waiting for Mr. K to pass. RIP but I think they still MIGHT build a concept. I really don't think they know how they wanna build it at this point. Maybe the Q platform is too big but they don't wanna spend money to create another. Seems like they contradict themselves about the Z in different statements at least 3 times a year also. smdh

Eagle 04-14-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stright_Drop (Post 3641087)
Well tbh I don't think the Z its been a "priority" to Nissan for the past 5-6 years, seems like they were waiting for Mr. K to pass. RIP but I think they still MIGHT build a concept. I really don't think they know how they wanna build it at this point. Maybe the Q platform is too big but they don't wanna spend money to create another. Seems like they contradict themselves about the Z in different statements at least 3 times a year also. smdh

I can understand them not doing something different with the car for a few years, I think by the time 2014 rolled around I was like...so what's happening with the Z35? And then they just started pulling the plug on everything...5 years without anything new is a lot but wasn't excessive. They could have let us know then that it was over instead of leading us on for another 2 years. But, as I've stated before the signs were all there from 2014 onward.

Kzonts 04-14-2017 04:10 PM

I just spent nearly 3K for the CSC delete, clutch upgrade and tune. I'll continue to enjoy my Z34 for a couple more years and then see what options are available. But it sounds like it won't be a Z35... :-(

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2017 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 3641071)
that 2018 whatever edition needs to be a joke. Feels like they are trying to do what american cars do and release different versions. That Z only has base brakes and its gonna cost around $38k. No one in their right mind will buy that thing.

The "Cheese bucket" edition.

What I don't get is.... last month they were hyping up the concept for this fall.

No car company has been as shitty

Rusty 04-14-2017 10:45 PM

I don't think I'll be buying a Z35 IF and when they release it. I'll keep my Z34 for awhile.

ZoomZ 04-15-2017 01:24 PM

The 370Z Is 'Not a Priority' for Nissan

Nixin 04-15-2017 06:19 PM

The Camaro wasn't a priority for GM for many years, in fact they dropped the Camaro from 2002-2010. GM learned from their stupid mistake how to properly prioritize. Seems Nissan is just way too busy designing the next 3 generations of Micras, Leafs and Sentras.

UNKNOWN_370 04-15-2017 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3641484)
The Camaro wasn't a priority for GM for many years, in fact they dropped the Camaro from 2002-2010. GM learned from their stupid mistake how to properly prioritize. Seems Nissan is just way too busy designing the next 3 generations of Micras, Leafs and Sentras.

Yup...

As It Awaits a Replacement, Nissan's Fastest-Depreciating Model Sweetens the Pot

According to this article,nobody given a fvck about the leaf yet Nissan is STILL DETERMINED to shove the piece o shyt down out throats...

Nobody wants your green machine. You sell quadruple Z's. Ghetdafvckattaheuh!!

Nixin 04-15-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3641485)
Yup...

As It Awaits a Replacement, Nissan's Fastest-Depreciating Model Sweetens the Pot

According to this article,nobody given a fvck about the leaf yet Nissan is STILL DETERMINED to shove the piece o shyt down out throats...

Nobody wants your green machine. You sell quadruple Z's. Ghetdafvckattaheuh!!

It is mind boggling that Nissan has chosen to go this way. I love my Z and will enjoy it for a few more years, no doubt. But there are other vehicles that are turning me on right now and causing me to think about an early trade-in.

Jordo! 04-16-2017 03:14 PM

Hmm. I wonder if they didn't want to compete with the new Supra... Consumers may prefer competition, but corporations tend to avoid it.

Looks like I'm getting a gently used 4C.

jcasti07 04-17-2017 12:40 AM

Man, f#$% that Manuer guy. I cant believe they're keeping us on the hook so much. If you're not gonna build it, just say so already so I can get pumped for a Supra, or even start looking for a nice 240z. Shame on them if that's how theyre gonna honor such an icon for the 50th anniversary. Rant over...

Cell 04-17-2017 05:33 AM

Nvm ignore post

UNKNOWN_370 04-17-2017 03:22 PM

With Nissan shifting direction. Nissan officially changes Nismo moniker to NISAA.

Nissan Automotive Appliances.

280driver 04-17-2017 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3642054)
With Nissan shifting direction. Nissan officially changes Nismo moniker to NISAA.

Nissan Automotive Appliances.

Agreed. I have no problem with them selling Rogues and Altimas all day long. Just use some of the profits to keep the Z relevant. Arguably, it was the Z that put the company on the map in the first place here in the US. Why give up on that?

/Angelo350Z/ 04-17-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3642069)
Agreed. I have no problem with them selling Rogues and Altimas all day long. Just use some of the profits to keep the Z relevant. Arguably, it was the Z that put the company on the map in the first place here in the US. Why give up on that?

Because Nissan can make more profit with cars like the Altima--which was mainly responsible for Nissan's resurgence in the early 2000s. I know what you're saying though; the Z put Nissan, Datsun rather, on the map. I wish Nissan had more pride to keep the Z alive. Killing the Z is akin to BMW not having an M car simply because your run-of-the-mill 3 and 5 Series are selling like hotcakes. Oh well, maybe it's time to jump ship to a different platform.

Jordo! 04-17-2017 06:03 PM

Its entirely possible that Nissan had some issues behind the scenes (to us) recently over emissions standards, so they promptly issued a "Sports cars?! Us?! No, no, our top priority is to build fuel-efficient lean, green, driving machines!" press release.

For example: https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...elReports.html


Nothing's official. In the meantime, keep calm and continue Z-ing :)

Nixin 04-17-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3642131)
Its entirely possible that Nissan had some issues behind the scenes (to us) recently over emissions standards, so they promptly issued a "Sports cars?! Us?! No, no, our top priority is to build fuel-efficient lean, green, driving machines!" press release.

For example: https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...elReports.html


Nothing's official. In the meantime, keep calm and continue Z-ing :)

Or it might be entirely possible that Nissan Corp. is just trying to shake us off of their tail and behind the walls, they are developing a wicked Z35. Let's see, only time will tell.

xfrgtr 04-17-2017 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3642131)
Its entirely possible that Nissan had some issues behind the scenes (to us) recently over emissions standards, so they promptly issued a "Sports cars?! Us?! No, no, our top priority is to build fuel-efficient lean, green, driving machines!" press release.

For example: https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...elReports.html


Nothing's official. In the meantime, keep calm and continue Z-ing :)

:rofl2:

UNKNOWN_370 04-17-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 3642072)
Because Nissan can make more profit with cars like the Altima--which was mainly responsible for Nissan's resurgence in the early 2000s. I know what you're saying though; the Z put Nissan, Datsun rather, on the map. I wish Nissan had more pride to keep the Z alive. Killing the Z is akin to BMW not having an M car simply because your run-of-the-mill 3 and 5 Series are selling like hotcakes. Oh well, maybe it's time to jump ship to a different platform.

Yeah, where's that famous Japanese pride?

Nissan execs should strongly consider Hari Kari!

MagmaRed370z 04-17-2017 08:54 PM

So messed up. Nissan should DIAF. Release a fuc***g real concept at least!

SOUTHZZ 04-19-2017 03:59 PM

Has Nissan given up on our Z?
 
I am sure most of you have kept up on the news of the "new Z".
According recent updates I have seen,there is really nothing new planned.
Just read&seen pics of the announcement of a 370Z Heritage Edition.
2 colors with graphics including a like-or-hate yellow.Some adds on the exterior.A clutch update. That's about it.
Price?Do not know.
What does this all mean?
Nissan like other vehicle manufactures makes stuff to realize a profit.

Just who now is buying our type of car?After the initial roll out of the Z rebirth
with the 2003 model,many have joined the market.
Very many.
But,how many ready buyers are out there vs pickup,SUV and cross overs?

Seems like a business decision to me on behalf of Nissan.

A really NEW Z needs to be a game changer ,me thinks.
But,what is the cost of this type of NEW sports model?
How many real buyers?

Big questions.

Nissan is not a Ferrari or Lambo with a dyed in the wool culture with ready
buyers anxious to plunk down cash for just a vague prototype being shown.

So,what have we?

We have a very cost effective,fun to drive car that has a huge amount of parts available of both performance and styling . A car that you can be proud to
call your own and not brake the bank. A bit a creative thinking and you
have a "new" vehicle.
I've not done much to my Z34.But,still have my original 03 Z33 That has undergone extensive styling and full bolt-ons&tune for performance.
Many ask if it is the new Z?

Z guys do what is necessary.

Can't wait on Nissan.
Take things into your own hands.

littlejuanito 04-19-2017 04:27 PM

Part of the Z tradition has been it's numerical configurations: 240, 260, 280, 300, 350 and 370. So if they decided to stay true to this, (which they should) then the next Z should be the 380z or 400Z or whatever. We know the number represents the size of the engine, and this is where Nissan would have a problem.

I don't think Nissan is making big liter engines due to emissions. The Q50 400 Red is called that not because of the engine size but fort it's horsepower.

So, Nissan is at a crossroads. If they call the next Fairlady a 400Z based on Horsepower, then they would be braking a 50 year old tradition of naming the car based on the engine size.

I very well think this is it for the Z as it can not continue with this numeration without braking tradition.

ZoomZ 04-19-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3642876)
Part of the Z tradition has been it's numerical configurations: 240, 260, 280, 300, 350 and 370. So if they decided to stay true to this, (which they should) then the next Z should be the 380z or 400Z or whatever. We know the number represents the size of the engine, and this is where Nissan would have a problem.

I don't think Nissan is making big liter engines due to emissions. The Q50 400 Red is called that not because of the engine size but fort it's horsepower.

So, Nissan is at a crossroads. If they call the next Fairlady a 400Z based on Horsepower, then they would be braking a 50 year old tradition of naming the car based on the engine size.

I very well think this is it for the Z as it can not continue with this numeration without braking tradition.

If your theory is correct, what is wrong with a 380? Bump up .1 litre and maybe TT's?

littlejuanito 04-19-2017 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 3642879)
If your theory is correct, what is wrong with a 380? Bump up .1 litre and maybe TT's?

Yes.. Let's hope that's what it is... But, I don't see any engines in the Infinity lineup that are 3.8 liters. I doubt they're gonna make a special engine just for the Z

Nixin 04-19-2017 04:42 PM

OP, did you miss this existing thread?
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...t-new-z35.html

ssmoked 04-19-2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3642876)

I don't think Nissan is making big liter engines due to emissions. The Q50 400 Red is called that not because of the engine size but fort it's horsepower.

So, Nissan is at a crossroads. If they call the next Fairlady a 400Z based on Horsepower, then they would be braking a 50 year old tradition of naming the car based on the engine size.

It's going to be named 300TT. As in 3.0 TT

brucelidat 04-19-2017 09:27 PM

If they discontinue the z, it might be time to boost the z34

Jordo! 04-20-2017 02:08 AM

In January, allegedly Nissan was going to show us a Z concept at the Tokyo Auto Show, which isn't until the end of October.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...okyo-auto-show

TOKYO MOTOR SHOW [TMS] WEB SITE

I imagine we'll hear something much more definitive by then.

"Not a priority" just means they are having more internal meetings over the next Leaf or Juke or whatever.

If it doesn't happen then so be it, but until they release a press statement saying "the Z car is officially discontinued" (as they did for the roadster, BTW...) I wouldn't sweat it too much just yet.

xfrgtr 04-20-2017 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3643009)
In January, allegedly Nissan was going to show us a Z concept at the Tokyo Auto Show, which isn't until the end of October.

Report: Nissan Z, Toyota Supra concepts bound for 2017 Tokyo auto show

TOKYO MOTOR SHOW [TMS] WEB SITE

I imagine we'll hear something much more definitive by then.

"Not a priority" just means they are having more internal meetings over the next Leaf or Juke or whatever.

If it doesn't happen then so be it, but until they release a press statement saying "the Z car is officially discontinued" (as they did for the roadster, BTW...) I wouldn't sweat it too much just yet.

False hope

carlitos_370z 04-20-2017 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3642979)
If they discontinue the z, it might be time to boost the z34

:iagree:

Jordo! 04-20-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3643025)
False hope

Eh, so was hope that the Z would come back after the 350Z was discontinued, and then of course there's the nearly two decades of the faithful waiting for a new Supra (which may or may not actually go into production or be worth the wait).

Another way to look at it is that there have been dozens of assurances from Nissan that the Z car will have at least one more iteration, whereas there is only this one nebulous statement indicating that it won't.

Its not like Nissan is taking pre-orders from wishful potential suckers or anything. The best indication that there will be a Z is that they've got the Q60 parts bin to draw from. Other than that, its all speculation, even if a concept does get released at the TMS, until the assembly lines get rolling.

I don't think anyone's heart will be irreparably broken if it doesn't get made. There are far less likely things to hope for... so far the Z35 is still at least as likely as not.

TN.Z 04-20-2017 12:32 PM

[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Z35?
 
As far as I have read they never said they weren't making it. They just said it isn't a priority. Saying it isn't a priority isn't saying they won't make it, it's just saying they have something else to finish first. They have recently updated almost the entire line, the only cars left are the Versa which I doubt they are going to update right away, the leaf (ugh), and the Pathfinder and Armada. We all know us Americans love huge SUVs for some reason, so I suspect they are working on updating those models then might turn their attention to a new z when they have an entirely fresh lineup. Which I would hope is before the 50th anniversary.


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