Humanity in general is fake ...so why not fake news?
Steroids, plastic surgery, nepotism, materialism, self worth = your net worth, racism, politically correct, not what you know its who you know, rich kids acting like they "earned it", Hollywood in general ...etc etc.
Were historically proven to be insane, and the fungus of the earth...:roflpuke2:

Back to the thread...60k for a Z? Only if it can do quarter in under 12 seconds.....

Well to be fair the Eclipse was never a legitimate sports car.:rofl2:

Everyone seems to be hyperventilating about the demise of the Nissan Z. The Z was dead for a few years, then came back. The Toyota Supra went dead for a number of years, now it's coming back. The Acura NSX, same. Maybe the MR2? If they were worthy to begin with, they'll probably be back in a few years. I am really salivating over that new NSX. What a beauty!! If only I could afford it. But if I could afford it, I'd still keep my Z :icon17:

The next one is going to have to be a 12 second car off the lot just to be competitive

...and that's just the people in the White House. Heaven help the rest of us.


Yes, it definitely needs to be 0-60 in sub 4 seconds.

While I agree with your comments, I disagree on the interpretation based on nothing more than my hope.

It's not uncommon for product planning guys to give off false vibes just before a new model is introduced. I really struggle with the idea that Nissan would announce the debut of a new Z concept for Tokyo in October while also planning to kill the line off.

Tadge Juechter, Corvette Chief Engineer, is notorious for denying upgrades, changes and new models right up to their introduction. I've seen Toyota and Ford do the same.

The vast amount of cost in developing the car was accomplished with the Q60. I think (again based on hope) that the Z35 follows the introduction pattern of the Z34/G37 - Z introduction 6 - 12 months after Q introduction.

Again, this is based on nothing more than hope. I'm waiting to see what happens in October. If the Z35 looks like a winner, and more importantly a go, I'll wait for introduction. Otherwise, I'm picking-up a 2017/2018 Nismo Z34.

We have just over six months to find out.

I agree with both sides. It makes no sense Nissan would make an announcement and suddenly a month later it doesn't happen. But then again. Mazda does it all the time with the RX-9!!!

Point is made when they stated that it came straight from the horses mouth that there's an air of hope for a Z to come out but things are still up in the air... Maybe he's eluding us? Maybe there's some truth?

What I've learned is... Nissan PR sucks balls. Nissan is inconsistent and their version of creating excitement for the Z is more prone to drive away enthusiasts than actually generate them. It's the worst PR of any car company.

Ha! That gave me a good laugh and I'm right there with you. :tup:

Don't even get me started on Mazda. I'm a former third gen RX-7 owner and super modaholic when it came to that car. Imagine your Z with 600hp and 1000 fewer pounds to haul around. I'd get my hopes up with every rumor only to be let down time and time again. I think, maybe, I gave up. Last week. I kid but I don't give it any credence at this point and I moved on some time ago. It's a bad, bad experience. Hope the Z/G/Q guys don't have to go through the same thing.

its like waiting to get out of the friend zone and then u find out shes been ******* your friend.

I owned two Gen 1 RX-7's back in the day.

Frankly, if the RX-7 ever came back as real sports car, not that three-door abomination we last saw, I wouldn't even be on a Nissan forum.

I loved those cars!

I dont ever see the Z being completely killed off. As long as Nissan is around theyll be a Z in the line up or in very near future line ups. The model is an icon, damn near level icon status of Mustangs in my opinion. Sure, Ford has NEVER had a Mustang hiatus ( I think) but oh my God, they did put out some awful, embarrassing vehicles. IMO no Z has EVER been embarrassing.

If they killed the Z it wouldn't be the first time.

I'm a former FD owner so I understand... clearly.:tiphat:



Nissan stopped selling the Z here in mid late 90's but it kept selling in Japan till the 350z debuted.

LOL, from a marketing perspective their media efforts are working because they are keeping the Z relevant and at the forefront of its enthusiast. Fake news or not we have taken the bait hook, line and sinker because we are hopeful and we don't want Nissan to follow Mazda's lead.

keeping it relevant for the couple people in this thread lol... outside this thread most people don't even know the difference between a 350 and 370 lol.

Yeah, but that is just it...the fact that Z is a niche car and they are talking about it is a good thing. We should be nervous if we don't hear anything.

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What about Toyota killing off the Supra and Mazda killing off the RX rotary. They were all icons for those manufacturers. It didn't matter in the end. And by the way, the Mustang basically did die in the 70's and was replaced with a Pinto. Sure the name was still there but they were nowhere near to being a Mustang. If Nissan were to decide to make a new Z based on an SUV or CUV, then they would basically killing the Z.




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I cant comprehend anybody not being able to tell the difference between the two. Ones sexy the other is dated.

Random thought: All the Z's have been so iconic looking... but the 350 doesn't give me the iconic feeling. I feel it's like the c4 Corvette

I think that is based on pragmatism not hope, and probably the most realistic interpretation of things to come in this thread. They've spent the development dollars on the Q60 at this point retooling for the new Z, while likely already part of that planning process all along, becomes a much more viable and cost-effective venture for them.

Unless they drop the Z in favor of the Infiniti all together, but that is a completely different market segment so I don't see how that would make sense.

If there is anything I'm looking forward to is the new engine refresh. Although, one thing I still can't stand with both the 350 and 370 along with the Qs are the weight. Hotrodz and I talked about it last Saturday. They need to make this car lighter.

Agreed...the is the same weight, or close enough as Vett without the power! My car with a full tank of gas and me in it are 3450 lbs. Not bad if you got 500 to 600whp but it's on the piggish side with less than 300whp. It would great if the car had close to the same hp ratings as the camero ss or the Mustang gt....I know it's a pipe dream isn't that what this thread is about lol! :p

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Yeah, the 350z is the ugly duckling of the Z fam... Its so plain and there's thousands of them in just my city alone.

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Yes, the new Z needs one hell of an engine that can compete with the majority of cars on sale today. We'll have to see what Nissan actually does this time.


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It is. That said I'm a big fan of the VQ and would rather see them adding a factory tt option to it instead of reinventing the wheel err engine.

My old 350z.... she had plastic surgery to be sexy

It's all a matter of personal taste to be respected.

I prefer a 350Z/G35 body with 370Z/G37 interior and drive train.

Hiatus and kill off are different. Z has seen a hiatus, never killed off. Supra has seen hiatus, NSX has..etc. Maybe the Z35 needs some time to percolate, like the z33 did? Way too much history for it to be killed off forever IMO.

Exactly. The good thing is, the new engine is already built for forced induction from the factory. I'm not saying that boost on the the standard VQs are unreliable, but there's always that chance.

Looks good! :tup:

When the 350Z came out back in 2002 it was very progressive for the time...i think its aged well...it has an art-deco style to that really set it apart from other sportscars....I had people coming up to asking if it were a Porsche...and chicks LOVED it.

I remember shopping for a new one...I had to go to five different dealers before I could get a test drive....and many were marking them up the first year...

Yep, here is the problem I have with these cars...I purchased my 2013 nismo w/12k miles for 28k about a month or so ago ...these cars will be in the 60 to 75k range. So after I make the purchase while I am driving around in it...my brain will be asking me questions ...like:
1. Could you have really purchased 3 Nismos for the price of this car?
2. Is this car worth 40k more to get me from point A to point B which is 95% of my driving?
3. Is this car really 3 times as good as my old car? 3 x as good?
4. Did you just honestly blow 40k?
5. 40k More?
6. I just spent 40k ...more...

I know this will happen ...how do I know? I owned a G37s sold it, purchased a Hellcat and then 4 months later sold it and purchased my Nismo....huge relief....:icon17:

It just boils down to personal situations. I'm not overly concerned about the what ifs when it comes to a toy because having a toy car is a luxury. I get whatever makes me feel good at that point in time. So would I pay 65k for a TT Z over let's say a c7 vette or a used GTR? Maybe, just depends what is out there and what suits my fancy at the time.

Buying whatever makes you feel good or what suits your fancy...regardless of the cost? As a financial planner for 25 years ....I see people daily who cant retire because they just purchased things without concern. You cant be that frivolous you have owned a Z for like 6 years or so...?

The new Z isn't going to be 65K... you can go get an Infiniti Q60 red sport for 50K....

The new Z would be priced 35-40k for regular and 45-49k for Nismo upper versions.

Maybe , but this which was discussed earlier in the thread, would probably be...but then again will probably never be produced.



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The thing that really surprised me was how quickly the car depreciated over the years. I look back and remembered these were sub 50k (depending on model). Now anyone for the most part can jump into one especially the 350s.

Hotrodz and I discussed this as well a week ago. Nissan needs to step up their game to compete with the mustangs, camaros, etc.

In regards to the Infiniti, that Renault model looks great, but again I think the whole weight of the car will spoil the handling. I'll admit that the Z is not the lightest, but responds pretty quickly considering its size/weight. In relation, the grand tour reviewed the RCF. The first thing Jeremy commented on was the weight. He was hoping it would inherit what made the LFA so great. Yes, this is comparing apples to oranges because we all know how long Toyota/Lexus took to develop that car.

That is how I feel with the Z. They can make it so much better from an enthusiast standpoint. We all knew what we wanted back when Nissan did that Project Z car.


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Although you can get more hp in a Mustang or Camaro, I personally wouldn't be caught dead in either. These days they are nearly as commonplace as Accords and Camarys, not an admirable quality in a sports car.

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