[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

b15

I've driven the new Mustang plenty of times. The 5.0 and the ecoboost. While they may look great on paper, the driving experience is not the same as the Z. Its big and you feel it. Yes it can finally handle and is MUCH better than the last gen, but in my opinion, it does not feel as graceful around a turn as a Z, again because you can really feel the weight.

Other than price i don't know why people always feel compelled to compare the Z to the Mustang. They're different cars with different markets. I guess the beauty of the Z is it really has no direct competitor. No its not the fastest, no its not the best handler, but when looking at it as a package, It does everything well but nothing great. Most other cars in its price range excel in one area and really lack at others. That is ultimately what drove me to buy a Z.

MR.nismo

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Yes sir, well said. Is not the fastest nor the best in any specific area but is a well put package and for 30some up to low 40's I think is a good price. And you are correct, there is no much of a competition when you compare a two seater rwd 6 cylinder that is not in the "exotic" or the expensive class (anything over $75K). The Z is not about high HP and that other non-sense stuff but is about a spirit and the true essence of a sports car. Is a car that drives and feels as it was intended.

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Firebase99

Yes sir, well said. Is not the fastest nor the best in any specific area but is a well put package and for 30some up to low 40's I think is a good price. And you are correct, there is no much of a competition when you compare a two seater rwd 6 cylinder that is not in the "exotic" or the expensive class (anything over $75K). The Z is not about high HP and that other non-sense stuff but is about a spirit and the true essence of a sports car. Is a car that drives and feels as it was intended.[/QUOTE]

Kinda disagree with all due respect. When I bought my Z in '13 I cross shopped the Mustang. I bet the majority of us did. Yes, yes the 5.0 is faster in all aspects, etc. I'll be sounding like an 86 buyers excuse though, what made me buy the 370 was A) I had a 260, 280, 300, 350, 370. And B) that truly INTIMITE relationship with a true 2 seat sports coupe. No matter how fast the Stang is it could NEVER offer that feeling to me. It's not all about HP with these cars, obviously. Otherwise we would all be in a 5.0. It's the same price point but a very different driving experience.

Edit: C'mon driving a small 2 seat Z car, its like piloting a fighter jet. Its the one thing I miss from my 370 as opposed to me 3.8 Genny. Its still way smaller and a better drivers car than the Mustang but not quite the relationship of the 370. But I gave that up for a more GT, softer ride, with the the tech and leather with more power. No, not quite as fast as a 370, but VERY close for less money. Lets see what the Z35 offers and I might find myself in one. Yet again.

UNKNOWN_370

Kinda disagree with all due respect. When I bought my Z in '13 I cross shopped the Mustang. I bet the majority of us did. Yes, yes the 5.0 is faster in all aspects, etc. I'll be sounding like an 86 buyers excuse though, what made me buy the 370 was A) I had a 260, 280, 300, 350, 370. And B) that truly INTIMITE relationship with a true 2 seat sports coupe. No matter how fast the Stang is it could NEVER offer that feeling to me. It's not all about HP with these cars, obviously. Otherwise we would all be in a 5.0. It's the same price point but a very different driving experience.

Edit: C'mon driving a small 2 seat Z car, its like piloting a fighter jet. Its the one thing I miss from my 370 as opposed to me 3.8 Genny. Its still way smaller and a better drivers car than the Mustang but not quite the relationship of the 370. But I gave that up for a more GT, softer ride, with the the tech and leather with more power. No, not quite as fast as a 370, but VERY close for less money. Lets see what the Z35 offers and I might find myself in one. Yet again.[/QUOTE]

Unlike the 86, the Z is NOT dealbreaker slow. It's the fastest NA V6 on the market or at least it was until 2013? (If another nab6 hasnt come along?)

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Firebase99

Unlike the 86, the Z is NOT dealbreaker slow. It's the fastest NA V6 on the market or at least it was until 2013? (If another nab6 hasnt come along?)[/QUOTE]

You mean short of Porsche's and other "exotics" I assume? Then again...NA 6 Cylinder....? Ehhhhhh?

Zerocool

@ 60k I'd look at it.

No way I'd fork over that much for the Z. 60K that's starting vette level or m4, even some other euro sports car with more power... Nissan would have to be smoking a good amount of herb to price it that much.

all speculation of course though

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b15

I dont think so. If its all around a step up from a Z34, why not ask it? The GTR is only going to go upmarket leaving a nice gap for the Z.

The same can be said about the base vette. Why spend 60k on a Chevy, thats Porsche/Bmw money and much nicer cars (except power) all around in my opinion.

njobe89

yea but why spend that much money on a bmw when all it's going to do is break down and throw more lights up on your dashboard then a decorated house on christmas.

i'd much rather buy the vette

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MagmaRed370z

I agree, those BMW(s) are a pain with dash lights, CEL, and when they break down, boy is a pain to fix them up! (Patience wise and moneywise)

b15

To each his own! I wouldn't. But I'm not a fan of american sports cars.

Zerocool

Because in my opinion, it's not worth the money. When you look at cars in the market of $60k, their interior is a lot nicer, they have more electronic gizmos and their engines perform a lot better, have a lot more power. The new Z would have to be mind blowing to cost that much in my opinion.

It could very well be an amazing car, we still don't know. For it to cost that much, it definitely has to show it's money's worth. Adding 10K recaro seats isn't going to cut it for me either.

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b15

Agree, compared to a z34. Everything about the z35 is all rumors/speculation so that's why I'm not saying it's not worth the money yet. However, given Nissan's latest products, I'm not very hopeful they'll push the z35 up market.

It's a good thing I'm happy with my Z because I have no idea what I'd replace it with right now.

Zerocool

I love my Z as well. Only thing that annoys me from the car is the engine. The vq motor is such a b1tch to get power out of unless you boost it. Mods like new manifolds, uprev tune, yada yada yada is almost a waste of money because it's so expensive for such little gain.

The body and styling of the car is absolutely beautiful though.

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edk370

The Z32 TT was a $60K car in 1990 dollars. It jumped 2 steps (in terms of price, image, performance) above the Z31. I think the Z32 TT merited the price jump. It was a competitor to the C4 Vette back then. The Z32, Vette, and even the M3 for that generation were all nearly the same price.

The Z33 was a regression because the tail end of the Z32's run showed dwindling sales numbers (the Japanese yen was too strong relative to the dollar; sports cars were out of favor; SUVs were the rage in the mid to late 90s).

The Z34 is an even bigger regression in regards to price. It isn't much more costly than a Z33. The Z34 is a $23,000 car in 2009 dollars when going backwards to 1990. This is what Mustangs and Camaro V8s cost brand new in the early 90s.

Now the Z35 wants to go upmarket a la the Z32. I believe the Z35 will share lots of things the Infiniti Q70 (the coupe). The 2.0 turbo and 3.0 Mercedes V6 turbo are what's going to be offered I think. It'll be a tunable car that can do 500+ hp without aftermarket turbo kits. I think people will be pleased with it...and hence it merits a $60K price.

Firebase99

The TT Z32 was running 911 Turbos back in the day!! Like you said, in '90's prices the car was $60K.....and it died because EXACTLY that reason. Nissan would be blind to their own history to that again. The overwhelming majority of prospective Z buyers will NOT spend 60 large on a "Nissan" (Yes, yes, GTR-way different market and the R's have had a long pedigree of being Supercars). I think itll share alot with the Q's and for that reason theyll be able to keep the cost down and still get 400+HP. Starting at $33k to a maxed platform at maybe $51K.