[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

P's_Z

too

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P's_Z

More than fine for me too

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njobe89

it can't go that high... they already don't sell that many of them. if they push it that high they will sell even less. the price has to stay the same.

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zeeder

The current Nismo Tech isn't too far off from that number so I could see the base model having, say, 380 hp starting around $30-35k and the Nismo having in the neighborhood of 420 for $50k fully loaded.

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UNKNOWN_370

It really depends what's in the packaging of the car.

The 1SS CAMARO will be close to $38,000 and the 2SS close $42,000. Throw in a $800 dual mode exhaust and you get 460hp for that money and a 4second car that weighs 3,600lbs. Very light for the performance.

If the Z was 3,000lbs even, 380hp v6TT with as many tech features as the new Camaro. I can see that starting at $40,000 even. With a 2+2 option a la Z32 for $43,000. I think it will sell.
Make a NISMO version, with the Mercedes speed shift DCT, 440hp and a weight of 3100lbs, for $50,000 loaded? I think it will sell.
Nissan and Mercedes already said any pure sports entries into the market will have hydraulic rack and pinion steering. Giving Nissan/Mercedes the edge of being drivers cars as they will be the ONLY modern production sports cars to give drivers REAL FEEDBACK outside of Alfa.

The C63S sedan beat out the M4 and ATS-V as being the best drivers car of the sport sedan segment. Bringing the feedback into cars again will be worth the extra coin.

The AMG GTS also being touted as one of the best drivers cars outside of the Alfa 4c. Nissan just needs to execute it perfectly...

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James10694

I'm sure it's been talked about on here but maybe Nissan hasn't been holding out on us. They might be using the 400hp 3 cylinder turbo engine in the next Z. Wishful thinking I guess

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njobe89

well from what the guy told me, it won't be lighter. it's going to stay at around 3,300 as what it is now (for the base).

when the price starts getting high it starts to get into other car territories. you can find used gtr's for 50k now. you can get a nice used z06 for 45-50k... i know these are used cars and not new, but when you get into that price range, the amount of "faster" cars you can get begin to go up.

i honestly don't think there are that many true z enthusiasts that can support the car if it went to mid 40s to 50k.

nissans goal is to sell as many units as they can.

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FPenvy

I disagree respectfully of course

let's just look back a little and the jump between the top model 2008 350 and the top model 2009 370 was about 5-6k. I mean the sticker on my 2009 was 44k so mid 40's is what these are now and it's not a bad price. you throw a TT engine at me maybe some updated tech in the interior as well i'm happy for mid 40s. I really cant think of another car in the mid 40s I would take over a TT Z even if it is a used Z06. have you ever driven an older vette? not that special lol

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njobe89

hey, you do not disagree with me at all!

the reason it sold is, because it was a new car. it wasn't out before and it competed in the market place so people wanted to buy it. the year(s) after that the 370z kept selling less and less. the problem is, they make a car and leave it the same for years to come and expect it to sell when other car manufacturers update their cars almost every year. also, i've never drove any vette lol.

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FPenvy

you kinda got Nissan's main fault in there being that they haven't updated the Z aside front changing the front bumper (horrible btw) in 2013 then the new nismo body kit in 2015. the tech and performance has not changed since the 2009's came out 6 years ago. it's hard to draw in more people to a car that's this deep into its lifespan when many new cars or updates have came out across the board.

for the Z to sell it's time for the next one.

as for a vette I dig the new model. the C6 was ok but prior to that they were blahhhh until you go back enough to hit the stingray of the 70s and older.

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njobe89

hybrid z ftw

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UNKNOWN_370

You're speaking in hypothetics. Your friend who is giving you info doesn't know what he's talking about because the only people who know the weight of the next Z are in the actual production lab. There's Been "NO INFO WHATSOEVER" and the most viable info we have is that the next Z will be a suped up Juke 3 door. The 5 door Juke is 2800lbs Soooooo? Even with the most ridiculous rumor in automotive history. The Z would probably be down 550lbs in weight. No one knows anything. So don't trust what you hear. It's as much speculation as this whole thread.

As far as no enthusiasts willing to pay? The only reason why people complain about the Z's power, in reality. It's cuz, our engines cost over $15,000 to properly add forced induction with a proper suspension tune to hold the power. If you own an auto. $23,000.

The Z still out handles all of the competition. The Z, if it remains at the same exact price? All they have to do is compete with the v6 Camaro, ecoboost Mustang and the challenger R/T.
The Z is soon to be no longer the fastest v6 on the market. Because we were stagnant and other vehicles progressed. They caught up to us.

We WILL NOT be able to compete with V8's without adding a premium to the price.

Mercedes gave infiniti, the turbo 4 for the Q50 and it will be an identical 208hp as in the C300.

Nissan may adopt the C400 engine which is a turbo 3.0 cranking 328hp. Maybe the Z will continue to only push 332hp. But if it has a turbo engine? Expect a $3,000 premium on that alone. If the in-house tune it and it's 400hp off the rip to compete with v8's? Expect it to cost in the range of v'8's just like the 09 z34. The Mustang was 30,000 back then. So was the Z. So look at a Mustang GT base price. And I give you the price of a 380-400hp Z.

People will pay cuz the Z driving experience is incomparable to other cars in the range. Muscle are all inherently similar. Just each model is better at one particular thing over the other..

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Firebase99

I pretty much agree. I also believe Nissan can and should do it. They already have the tooling for the engine. One could expect current Cayman S performance (95% anyway) but let's be reasonable, to make a profit, and they are allowed and SHOULD, the car ain't gonna be a Benz or a Q. It'll be a bit...rough. Just like the Z34. But better than the Z34 in every way from interior to mechanicals. I've joked about the Z35 as a truck, I honestly don't believe Nissan is capable of destroying an icon. It literally would be blasphemy. Worst case, it's on hiatus for 4 years. If that's the case enjoy the sh*t out of your Z34.

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Zbo

You guys are almost embarrassing with your pipe dreams about tt 3.0 new z"s and all that mumbo jumbo.

The z failed in sales and even the Nissan heads admitted they need to downsize for a more fuel efficient engine and it may not even be called a z! Nissan has no clue what they're doing all they do is release cvt garbage and they are bottom of the consumer ratings report and the leaders of recalls.
But ya keep speculating and typing nonsense about 400hp z "s and stupid rumors that aren't even confirmed.

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