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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion Correct it’s still a z34. If this was German car speak, it’d be labeled/we’d call it a z34.5 which is exactly what it is, a

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Old 11-12-2022, 09:56 PM   #6976 (permalink)
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Correct it’s still a z34. If this was German car speak, it’d be labeled/we’d call it a z34.5 which is exactly what it is, a major decade overdue mid cycle refresh.

I’m not a big bmw Supra fan, but I will say I like the Supra more so far, and I’m a big Nissan z car guy. Sad, but I’m glad they at least built it. 2 door sports cars that are sub 100k are going the way of the dodo bird.

Nissan is so retarded, if they’d spent the cash to release this in say 2016or so, with $$ being essentially free back then with extremely low interest rates and soaring economy, they would’ve sold out all of them. Instead, they dicked around for a decade and timed the economy perfectly just like in 2009. I think we can thank good ol Carlos Gohen for that one, le cost cutter was to busy lining his pockets.
Looks-wise, I think the new Supra is a sharp-looking car. Performance-wise, different story in the sense that it's a bmw and shared platform with the z4. Really makes me wonder why Toyota would partner out for an iconic car.

The new Z, different strokes for different folks, and I just can't bring myself to liking it, even a bit. It seems like Nissan was in a rush to bring a new product to the table to keep up with competition and just half-@$$ed the whole thing.

I will give Carlos credit on reviving the GTR.
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Money and power went to his head.
Deadly combo, and unfortunately a lot of people fall for the traps that come with these two elements.
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Looks-wise, I think the new Supra is a sharp-looking car. Performance-wise, different story in the sense that it's a bmw and shared platform with the z4. Really makes me wonder why Toyota would partner out for an iconic car.



The new Z, different strokes for different folks, and I just can't bring myself to liking it, even a bit. It seems like Nissan was in a rush to bring a new product to the table to keep up with competition and just half-@$$ed the whole thing.



I will give Carlos credit on reviving the GTR.
For me:

Supra = overstyled kit car looking with a ripped off BMW underbelly and inside.

Z = understyled boring fat retro with a ripped off Nissan underbelly and inside.

Unfortunately, both cars got here that way because of money woes. So they are what they are. Better than nothing for sure, but far from what could have been if economic times were different. It is what it is.

I'll stick with my 370Z.

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Looks like this thread is dying and so will the 400z. If we dont like it who will?. I also thought it was going to cost much much more than predicted.I also stated that many dealers would have a small or no units to sell in the USA. i also said that the dealers were going be pigs in the pen regarding $$. So i am glad i built small air-conditioned corner in my hangar and put my 370Zs on ice for 2022 . It is going to be fun watching what happens . Hope you all are doing well.
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Looks like this thread is dying and so will the 400z. If we dont like it who will?. I also thought it was going to cost much much more than predicted.I also stated that many dealers would have a small or no units to sell in the USA. i also said that the dealers were going be pigs in the pen regarding $$. So i am glad i built small air-conditioned corner in my hangar and put my 370Zs on ice for 2022 . It is going to be fun watching what happens . Hope you all are doing well.
There will always be a market for big-box names, such as Nissan, and the products they make. Even if you and I don't like it, there are plenty of people out there that do, and they will spend the money to buy it. I know plenty of people that absolutely hate the 350Z's and the 370Z's (I've had both and personally think both are sharp-looking products), but I know more people that love them. In regards to the pricing, yes, greed is a factor but keep in mind that COVID-19 is the base variable in driving prices up for everything (supply/demand). Also, as with any product, the item is always worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay.
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Went to the dealer again today. Car is still there. Been there collecting dirt, leaves, and rust since 8-22-22. Its car #219.

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Boring yet convaluted looking door handles.

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The black paint on the rear hatch is mindless transition. There is no natural line flow to the car to say "that makes sense." It has a physical bump to it that you can feel. It just looks contrived and unnatural.

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Hard to see in pics but the yellow paint on the black A pillar is a different color. Fitment isn't great either.

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I really don't like the lines or shape of the diffuser. It simply doesn't fit the rest of the car. I think someone from the Honda Civic crew got assigned that part of the car.

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These pics show part of the reason this car looks big and bulky to me. The entire side of the car is basically flat. It no longer has the old "telephone" wheel flares. I like the 370 much more from this angle.

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