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Originally Posted by LA370z I would pay 50K for a new design Z "if" they came out with one pushing 420 HP. I can't see Nissan selling a new design
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The current Nismo Tech isn't too far off from that number so I could see the base model having, say, 380 hp starting around $30-35k and the Nismo having in the neighborhood of 420 for $50k fully loaded.
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The 1SS CAMARO will be close to $38,000 and the 2SS close $42,000. Throw in a $800 dual mode exhaust and you get 460hp for that money and a 4second car that weighs 3,600lbs. Very light for the performance. If the Z was 3,000lbs even, 380hp v6TT with as many tech features as the new Camaro. I can see that starting at $40,000 even. With a 2+2 option a la Z32 for $43,000. I think it will sell. Make a NISMO version, with the Mercedes speed shift DCT, 440hp and a weight of 3100lbs, for $50,000 loaded? I think it will sell. Nissan and Mercedes already said any pure sports entries into the market will have hydraulic rack and pinion steering. Giving Nissan/Mercedes the edge of being drivers cars as they will be the ONLY modern production sports cars to give drivers REAL FEEDBACK outside of Alfa. The C63S sedan beat out the M4 and ATS-V as being the best drivers car of the sport sedan segment. Bringing the feedback into cars again will be worth the extra coin. The AMG GTS also being touted as one of the best drivers cars outside of the Alfa 4c. Nissan just needs to execute it perfectly...
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almost lunch time... blue moon lol
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I am a fan of blue moon. pretty much my go to when a bar or wherever im eating has a dismal selection of the usual bud light, sam adams, etc
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You guys are almost embarrassing with your pipe dreams about tt 3.0 new z"s and all that mumbo jumbo.
The z failed in sales and even the Nissan heads admitted they need to downsize for a more fuel efficient engine and it may not even be called a z! Nissan has no clue what they're doing all they do is release cvt garbage and they are bottom of the consumer ratings report and the leaders of recalls. But ya keep speculating and typing nonsense about 400hp z "s and stupid rumors that aren't even confirmed. |
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I am a huge Z fan. Ive owned 2 350z's and a Nismo 370z. What I suspect if the new Z is released and they don't cut from the lineup (its always a possibility) is the following.
Nissan has made numerous comments about a revolution not evolution as well as a lighter more compact car. I actually test drove a BRZ the other day for fun and the size felt ok for my 5"9 150 pounds but I couldn't imagine that car for a larger person. The new Z will need to be larger then that but still retain a weight of 3000 pounds or under to compete with a 4 cylinder turbo option. That being said the BRZ weighs around 2700ish pounds. With 200hp it is very slow. If the new Z can shoot for a sub 3000 weight and having a lower end 4 cylinder turbo option with 240-260hp and a V6TT option with around 400hp they would then beat out the FRS/BRZ with the lower end and the mustang/Camaro end with the upper end. Pricing would need to be appropriate like below Base Z35- $28,000-$31,000 (4 Cylinder Turbo) V6TT Z35- $38,000- $45,000 (6 cylinder turbo) There should also be a significant exterior change for the 4cyl vs the 6 cyl. One thing I hate about the Mustang is ALL models pretty much look the same. Nissan needs to make the higher end like a top of the line Vette vs the base. Things like functional vents, carbon parts, lower stance, bigger brakes etc for the higher performance model. I will say as of right now for 2016 new model cars there is nothing I would buy. The new STI is ugly, The EVO is dead, the 2016 370z with the noise cancelling crap, Honda and Toyota offer nothing, the new mustang is fun to drive but where I live its like the most common car purchased. THe brs/frs is just too damn slow for me coming from a Nismo 370z and a modded 350Z. I am very hopeful in Toyota or Nissan releasing something amazing in the next 2 years that will be like the 90s where amazing Japanese cars ruled the car world!
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