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Originally Posted by FPenvy the GTR only comes in orange calipers since 2009. the only change happened this year the 2020 nismo carbon ceramic brakes are yellow and no choice

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Old 12-08-2020, 02:27 PM   #6136 (permalink)
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the GTR only comes in orange calipers since 2009. the only change happened this year the 2020 nismo carbon ceramic brakes are yellow and no choice just what you get.
That's what I really dislike. For the $100,000+ price tag of the new GTR it should absolutely have multiple caliper color options. Ridiculous that it doesn't. I just hate the fact that yellow calipers will look ugly on half the body color options. It'll look good on black, grey, maybe white. But on the other body colors yellow calipers just look off-putting to me. Red overall looks best with most colors, IMO.
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That's what I really dislike. For the $100,000+ price tag of the new GTR it should absolutely have multiple caliper color options. Ridiculous that it doesn't. I just hate the fact that yellow calipers will look ugly on half the body color options. It'll look good on black, grey, maybe white. But on the other body colors yellow calipers just look off-putting to me. Red overall looks best with most colors, IMO.
i agree.

however, i assume this single color (well 2 with the new CCX nismo brakes) is how they keep the car as cheap as it is currently.

before anyone jumps on that, yes it is now starting msrp at 113k.

i still think thats good value since to get similar performance you'll be high 100k or over. porsche 911 turbo starts at 170k and turbo S is 205k for example.
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i agree.

however, i assume this single color (well 2 with the new CCX nismo brakes) is how they keep the car as cheap as it is currently.

before anyone jumps on that, yes it is now starting msrp at 113k.

i still think thats good value since to get similar performance you'll be high 100k or over. porsche 911 turbo starts at 170k and turbo S is 205k for example.
I think the C8 changed the meaning of value. We'll see what happens to that definition for sure when the Z06 comes out.
I think the next gen GTR is ready to meet that challenge.
I think porsche will probably go 100% EV to stay expensive yet relevant.
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I think the C8 changed the meaning of value. We'll see what happens to that definition for sure when the Z06 comes out.
I think the next gen GTR is ready to meet that challenge.
I think porsche will probably go 100% EV to stay expensive yet relevant.
I agree the C8 completely changed the game. Corvette showed that a fast car doesn't need to be 6 figures anymore. The Supra trying to compete with the C8 proved that if your car is slower than the C8 it needs to be under $50k otherwise might as well buy a C8. If the new Z is not under 4s then the car will have to be less than 40k max for it to sell period. You look at Nismo pricing right now even if the shave another 1s off the time who's spending that much compared to a C8?
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I agree the C8 completely changed the game. Corvette showed that a fast car doesn't need to be 6 figures anymore. The Supra trying to compete with the C8 proved that if your car is slower than the C8 it needs to be under $50k otherwise might as well buy a C8. If the new Z is not under 4s then the car will have to be less than 40k max for it to sell period. You look at Nismo pricing right now even if the shave another 1s off the time who's spending that much compared to a C8?
This is just thinking in absolute metrics. Not everyone thinks this way. I totally respect and appreciate the performance value of the C8, and I generally like the car. But, I feel no urge to go out and buy one. I have zero bad things to say about it (I have many bad things to say about a Mustang or Camaro, another possible Z competitor)
I am also sure a C8 and the new 300Z will be equally expensive to insure, both being 2-seaters, so that's another metric that would push the value ratio towards C8.
For me, I've had (2) Z31's, (2) V6 S12's, a Z32, a Q60, various Maximas and a Stanza and a Titan. All have treated me well, and all of my V6 coupes stand out in my mind as being favorable memories. I want another one, especially since we are going back to a retro-vibe 3.0TT V6 model, which was my favorite of all time.
Honestly, I HIGHLY doubt the new 300Z could outperform the BMW Supra 3.0TT, let alone the C8, obviously. BMW deserves a lot of respect for building cars that perform better than their specs suggest, and BMW has a lot of un-tapped room for improvement in the Supra, if the 300Z begins to nip too closely to the Supra, BMW can just turn up a few dials, maybe even offer a 6MT. I doubt Nissan will play such tricks with the VR, you will get what you get.
Nonetheless, I don't want a BMW either (although I'd take a C8 over a BMW in a quickness).

An enthusiast can take a new 300Z, significantly improve it with a tune, change out the exhaust in their driveway, modify it as they wish and not really break the bank. For us Nissan fans, it's an easy sell.
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This is just thinking in absolute metrics. Not everyone thinks this way. I totally respect and appreciate the performance value of the C8, and I generally like the car. But, I feel no urge to go out and buy one. I have zero bad things to say about it (I have many bad things to say about a Mustang or Camaro, another possible Z competitor)
I am also sure a C8 and the new 300Z will be equally expensive to insure, both being 2-seaters, so that's another metric that would push the value ratio towards C8.
For me, I've had (2) Z31's, (2) V6 S12's, a Z32, a Q60, various Maximas and a Stanza and a Titan. All have treated me well, and all of my V6 coupes stand out in my mind as being favorable memories. I want another one, especially since we are going back to a retro-vibe 3.0TT V6 model, which was my favorite of all time.
Honestly, I HIGHLY doubt the new 300Z could outperform the BMW Supra 3.0TT, let alone the C8, obviously. BMW deserves a lot of respect for building cars that perform better than their specs suggest, and BMW has a lot of un-tapped room for improvement in the Supra, if the 300Z begins to nip too closely to the Supra, BMW can just turn up a few dials, maybe even offer a 6MT. I doubt Nissan will play such tricks with the VR, you will get what you get.
Nonetheless, I don't want a BMW either (although I'd take a C8 over a BMW in a quickness).

An enthusiast can take a new 300Z, significantly improve it with a tune, change out the exhaust in their driveway, modify it as they wish and not really break the bank. For us Nissan fans, it's an easy sell.
But that's the problem for Nissan and the same thing that Supra failed to understand. Many people aren't Fanboys or girls and only care about performance per dollar and reliability and the lots of people now don't wrench in their cars heck they can't even change the oil themselves. The average person buys a car as is maybe adds an exhaust and that's it. The Supra tanked because it's in the same price bracket as the C8 without the performance and the questionable reliability of the BMW engine. Toyota relied too much on nostalgia and the new Z will have this exact problem. Especially with the way most people's impressions of Nissan QC after all their transmission issues and general poor customer satisfaction compared to other car manufactures. Nissan absolutely needs to sell volume not just to us Nissan fans or they will go bankrupt.
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The average person buys an SUV these days. Supra, BRZ, new Z, are all playing to a very small audience.

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Nissan absolutely needs to sell volume not just to us Nissan fans or they will go bankrupt.
There won't be volume for these types of cars these days. We are in the twilight of the market for these cars, soon ICE vehicles are going to be legislated away. We are so lucky that there are so many choices these days, and many of them make ZERO financial sense.
Nissan needs to sell volumes of those Rogues and Airya (spelling?) if they want to avoid bankruptcy. The new Z won't move them away from the edge.
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There won't be volume for these types of cars these days. We are in the twilight of the market for these cars, soon ICE vehicles are going to be legislated away. We are so lucky that there are so many choices these days, and many of them make ZERO financial sense.
Nissan needs to sell volumes of those Rogues and Airya (spelling?) if they want to avoid bankruptcy. The new Z won't move them away from the edge.
Agreed here. This is likely the very last Z car Nissan will ever make to be honest. No matter how amazing the car could turn out to be, I just don't think it'll sell enough realistically. I think this will be the last hoorah of the Z.
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Agreed here. This is likely the very last Z car Nissan will ever make to be honest. No matter how amazing the car could turn out to be, I just don't think it'll sell enough realistically. I think this will be the last hoorah of the Z.


It will be an Electric eventually. In some form or another. It will be the Nissan 500E. LOL.

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Agreed here. This is likely the very last Z car Nissan will ever make to be honest. No matter how amazing the car could turn out to be, I just don't think it'll sell enough realistically. I think this will be the last hoorah of the Z.
As others already stated, last ice Z, next Z after this upcoming one will be ev only for sure, whether we like it or not.
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This is just thinking in absolute metrics. Not everyone thinks this way. I totally respect and appreciate the performance value of the C8, and I generally like the car. But, I feel no urge to go out and buy one. I have zero bad things to say about it (I have many bad things to say about a Mustang or Camaro, another possible Z competitor)
I am also sure a C8 and the new 300Z will be equally expensive to insure, both being 2-seaters, so that's another metric that would push the value ratio towards C8.
For me, I've had (2) Z31's, (2) V6 S12's, a Z32, a Q60, various Maximas and a Stanza and a Titan. All have treated me well, and all of my V6 coupes stand out in my mind as being favorable memories. I want another one, especially since we are going back to a retro-vibe 3.0TT V6 model, which was my favorite of all time.
Honestly, I HIGHLY doubt the new 300Z could outperform the BMW Supra 3.0TT, let alone the C8, obviously. BMW deserves a lot of respect for building cars that perform better than their specs suggest, and BMW has a lot of un-tapped room for improvement in the Supra, if the 300Z begins to nip too closely to the Supra, BMW can just turn up a few dials, maybe even offer a 6MT. I doubt Nissan will play such tricks with the VR, you will get what you get.
Nonetheless, I don't want a BMW either (although I'd take a C8 over a BMW in a quickness).

An enthusiast can take a new 300Z, significantly improve it with a tune, change out the exhaust in their driveway, modify it as they wish and not really break the bank. For us Nissan fans, it's an easy sell.
/\ good point about absolute performance metrics not being the be all end all for whether or not someone buys a particular performance car.

There’s a balance at play between aesthetics, ergonomics (not everyone is comfortable in every car equally), absolute performance, performance for the dollar (perceived performance value), perceived quality and workmanship, brand loyalty, historical provenance of a particular model, and of course price (both absolute $$ and how it stacks up $$ compared to rivals).

Some folks will weigh certain of the above more than other ones but all are at play to some degree for every car buyer.

As I get older, the absolute performance metric becomes far less important. I want performance but never at the expense of the other stuff, especially quality and ergonomics, etc. I’d rather be in a slower Porsche than a faster vette.

The problem with only bringing in buyers who are essentially performance mercenaries is that every year or two, something better comes out so sales will tank once the new hotness gets superseded by the even newer hotness.

Long term sales success for a performance car is actually least dependent on absolute performance and much more on brand loyalty and all the other things I listed above. As long as the car gets some updates periodically to keep it somewhat relevant it’s overall performance might be the hook initially that gets attention but the manufacturers hope folks keep coming back for all the other stuff too.

The z34’s downfall was that Nissan is building a 2009 car in 2020 and its had no real updates ever, no I don’t think the ‘15 nismo refresh was a major update.
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My family in China has an electric car. China has been really pushing EVs hard.
Some of the EV cars there have overcome the charging time issue by having exchangeable battery packs.

For me, I find PHEV like the RAV4 the most likely to "convert" me. I like being able to carry 200 miles of range in a 5 gallon jug.

I'm going to keep my ICE vehicles as long as possible. My biggest concern is how much will gas cost as ICE cars fade away?
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