[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Face it. One day it will be hybrid or just straight up electric.
People bitch way too much.
It's better to keep the Z alive vs discounting it.
We know there will be plenty aftermarket available

I'll be in my bunk!

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

After reading all the post this morning I have one quick question for the haters...

You really going to judge a new Z on its grill? Seriously? How many of you actually thought there would even be a new Z? I know I didn’t. And as far as being a “parts bin refresh” I say at least it’s made from NISSAN Parts, unlike the Supra which was made from a different company‘s parts bin all together. I read the horror stories for Supra owners going in for warranty work and being turned down because they don’t know what they’re doing. You won’t have that problem here.

So, yea, the grill is ugly, I can change that eventually. Give me a genuine factory parts product that puts out 400 HP with a manual trans for $40,000 and I’ll be the first in line. If it sells decently the aftermarket parts will be off the hook.

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

General Public: why can’t anyone build an affordable sports car, with rear wheel drive, a manual trans, and not too much tech?

Nissan: hey over here!

General Public: Nah, the grill is ugly.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

I found this render on the 400zclub forum.

I redid it, removed the bottom lip, added a "vent" to the side crevice, brought down the front lip a little, and smoothed out the harsh line around the grille corner.

Originally Posted by FPenvy

i mean.......the front look is pretty awful



but seriously why are people harder on the front look over the back.



honestly those taillights need a little work too.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

I think there are 3 clear main issues with the 400Z.

1. The color they revealed it in was just a down right bad choice. It hid what lines and curves it has and fails to pop in pictures. If you look at the videos of it driving in the sunlight you can see the lines better and it looks a little cleaner, but it definitely would look better in almost any other color.

2. The front bumper/grille is a joke of design when looking head on. The rectangle look doesn't work and will never work with a modern design. I think the overall size of it is okay. The issue is, it's literally just a rectangle. Take a look at other sports/super cars with huge grille like the new Q60 or new Audi R8. They have a massive grille but it works and looks aggressive because it's more of a hexagonal shape.

3. Trying to modernize the older retro look of past Zs just doesn't entirely work here, IMO. I think they tried too hard to literally copy and past some of the designs when they should've just redesigned the look and then incorporated subtle retro styling cues. I do like the headlights. I feel like the tail lights could've been executed better. When I look at that long black strip of paint between the taillights I almost imagine the Toyota Prius rear. Maybe changing that black rectangle to body color would look better. Also, giving the tail lights a more 3D, unique shape instead of the flat, blocky appearance it has now, would really help.

Overall, I think they could've been a bit more creative with certain elements without breaking the bank. The interior is perfectly fine for me. The side profile looks great. Just tweak the front grille/bumper and the rear a bit and I'll take one hands down.




This video explains exactly my thought process on why the front grille needs a redesign.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

What do you guys think of this new render I did of the rear?

I made the tail lights a little longer, got rid of that middle black area, and reworked the body line engravings. Instead of the oval shape it had, I brought down the lines on bottom outer side of the tail lights towards the diffuser to help give more emphasis on the width of the rear fenders. Also, instead of keeping the "bulge" lines connected, I disconnected those and brought them down on each side, flowing with the natural curvature of the design and left them disconnected at the bottom.

Also I think a carbon fiber spoiler would look great.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

What do you guys think of this new render I did of the rear?

I made the tail lights a little longer, got rid of that middle black area, and reworked the body line engravings. Instead of the oval shape it had, I brought down the lines on bottom outer side of the tail lights towards the diffuser to help give more emphasis on the width of the rear fenders. Also, instead of keeping the "bulge" lines connected, I disconnected those and brought them down on each side, flowing with the natural curvature of the design and left them disconnected at the bottom.

Also I think a carbon fiber spoiler would look great.

Originally Posted by Bonzo

Better!

Now put some paint color on the rear hatch and roof.

I'd also like to see either a lower diffuser, or for it to incorporate some body color.