Originally Posted by Spooler Have you ever seen a 240z, 260z, or 280z back end? That is what it is. Not some stupid Mustang piece of crap. The rear on
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09-16-2020, 08:35 AM | #5701 (permalink) |
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The rear on those cars was more squared off and honestly would have flowed with the front bumper better. The new Z has a more curved rear and I get more mustang GT vibes from it than I do Nissan 240, 260, 280z vibes. But that's just my opinion.
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I'm done being critical with the design elements and how it was presented. We could all criticize and pick out the negatives but what about the things that looks promising? That TT with a 6 spd will be fun. Get it tuned and it'll be more than enough for many. I see a lot of JDM design houses drawing their kit for aftermarket. That part is exciting. The seats look good to me.. Nismo trim has potential to be distinct and unique. This is if they even do it.
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I am interested to see what new parts fit perfectly on the 370Z.
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Yea, like installing that steering wheel on a 370. Or the 6/4 brake calipers.
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09-16-2020, 10:44 AM | #5706 (permalink) |
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I may be like many. About a year or so ago,there were thoughts/reports of a totally new Z.
Clean piece of paper,start over.Offer innovations on a lighter car at a competitive price. This was not what happened. The 400Z as described is pretty much a "parts box "vehicle.Financially,why not? Others do this.I am not at all surprised. Does not look bad.Pays homage to the 240Z for sure. Design touches from other Z lineage abound.I do hate the yellow color of the proto. But,hey how many times has a "car show" color been used on a new model kick off... Bottom line,not much new here. The challenge IMO will be,will the old Z guys go for it? How many new buyers will this attract that are not over the moon for a manual,rear wheel drive with classic Z touches like or 3 gauge top-of-the-dash? And,the price. Reports say 40k + to 50k. What is gonna be the marketing focus? Trend now seems to be HP. Take Dodge.The message is HEMI/Hellcat. Does anyone mention what the car looks like or features other than the HP? Another challenge,we now live in CBC world. COVID Buy Car. How will one walk into a dealership to check out a 400Z and get a test drive? Much competition out there.Gonna be a tough sell. Makes financial sense to me to keep what we have or for a newcomer,buy a clean used and make it your own. |
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I am interested. Mid 50s guy with a 2017 370z with only about 30k on it, and I will be I in the showroom as soon as it shows up. My first car was a 240z, and this looks "close enough" if everything works as it should. Given Nissans resources, I think this is pretty good, and keeps the Zcar DNA - unlike what Toyota did with the Supra
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I love it. About 20 years ago, not too long after I graduated from college, I scraped every cent I got to put a deposit down on '02 350, six months before the release. Ended up putting 100k on that car and got alot of pungtang because of the car.
Now that I am a middle aged man, I can't wait to get back in. I'm already getting that tingling feeling lmao |
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I don't think Nissan is done. In a way, I think this was done intentionally. ( the Yellow, front grill and rear) Almost as if they are still keeping it underwraps.
Just too much left out for anyone to make a final conclusion. I hope I'm right.......for Nissan and the Z's sake! ( that's sake as in "for F**ck sake" not the delicious Rice wine. ) zz |
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This is going to be Nissan's Supra. Built at a cost based off an existing platform because they needed a new namesake sports car. Luxury platform as a base will result in a not-quite-GT-not-quite-Sports experience, also concerned about weight given the Q60's specs.
Interior looks like a 370Z playing dress-up, which isn't ideal given the interior is dated as-is. Exterior-wise, ANY other color would've been nice, also don't understand the tire lettering. Obviously the grill is a huge miss, and I believe the headlights would look better if they could shape up that front bumper a bit better. From the belt line up all I see is 370Z, just with stupid chrome strips at the roofline. Rumor is this is 98% production spec, so let's hope that 2 is a new grill.
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Perhaps he'd feel more comfortable pointing out which part tingles on a sock puppet doll? Hope you're ready for even more 'pungtang'. Last edited by Zingston; 09-16-2020 at 12:05 PM. |
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Not me. The 370Z was the first Z car I truly LOVED.
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Bottom Line The reveal was pathetic. Those guys are friggin' dorks. Completely unprofessional. The questions they took were some of the dumbest questions I've ever heard. And the answers weren't much better. Overall a very painful experience. The car is simply a reworked 370, and it shows. As people have said, it looks forced. Reminds me of when GM took the Pontiac Solstice (my wife's car) and designed it to the Saturn Sky. The Sky was totally forced and contrived in comparison. It had to bolt around what they already had underneath. Same goes here, and it shows. The front grill shape is horrible, and the grill itself is hideous. It's a bunch of Nissan Cube window shapes all lumped together. Very juvenile. I don't like the hood at all either. They tried to make the car look longer up front by flattening and extending it forward more before the drop. It has a similar appearance to what Mercedes did years back when they did the shark F1 sort of nose. But the Mercedes was much better. WTF are those stupid "fake" slits at the front corners? No holes, no lights, no nothing. A completely useless design exercise. Reminds me of the rear wheel fake vents on the Camaro but worse. I don't like the side Z badge on the back C-pillar because it's better where it is on the 370Z. As I already said, I hate the way the hood line goes into the side mirrors. The window and roof lines are 370Z all the way - no change. The Katana Sword thing is such a childish gimmick. Just a way to "try" to distract people that the line is the exact same as on the 370Z. The rear hips are okay, but I like the 370Z bulges better. The back end is almost too smooth, to the point of being completely boring. The only thing to like is how fast it cuts off. A nice short tight rump. Overall, no dice for me. There is no way I would swap this with my 370Z, even for better performance. I don't even think it's good looking enough to buy even if I didn't already have a Z. The only thing I can say positive right now, is that this is a Proto, so some things could change (especially that fugly front). And, as we all know, cars almost always look better in real life than in pictures or videos. So, like the new Corvette C8, I will reserve final judgment until I get to see it, sit in it, and drive it. Until then, just more evidence why Nissan is sinking in quick sand. They lack real deal decisive direction.
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