[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

NecioVato

I agree with you on every point; and I agree with you on the test drive although we both know - we'll have to wait at least 2yrs for it to be out so we can test drive a USED one - bc we all know Nissan dealers won't allow for any test drives - they will treat this the way Honda dealers treat the CTR.

Spooler

Go to 10 seconds in.

markesc

Agreed.... the overall shape from a distance is more of a car that's going to blend in... I don't know... would have to see in person. And agreed.... Nissan just cannot do headlights for some reason.

Bonzo

Ugly as all get out.
Boring and bland.
It is the best view.
Yep, not that great if you ask me. Looks like a kid designed the read out display.
Eh, not sure.
Yes, but kind of a no brainer.
Glad to see it for sure.
I like my 2012 Sports better.
Um, yep, because from the bottom of the front window to the back of the rear window is EXACTLY the same as the 370Z. So are the side windows. More proof to me they are working with 370Z parameters with the design of this car.

I doubt it.
It's not the mirrors themselves for me. Its the way the hood comes into the mirrors too high and then just stops, like it got cut off. Painting the mirrors, A-pillar and roof could fix this easy. I hope having the black floating roof is a paint option and not the only way it comes. It looks stupid on the new Toyota Camry and it doesn't look good here either.
They better as it seems nearly everyone here basically hates it. Even my wife hates it.
I love the ones on my 370Z. These new ones are almost a step backwards and are just too plain Jane. Not sure if it's the shape of the size, but they aren't doing it for me.

I can wait. There is NOTHING about this Z Proto that would even interest me in the slightest to switch cars. The 370Z is way Way WAY better looking.

Bottom Line
The reveal was pathetic. Those guys are friggin' dorks. Completely unprofessional. The questions they took were some of the dumbest questions I've ever heard. And the answers weren't much better. Overall a very painful experience.

The car is simply a reworked 370, and it shows. As people have said, it looks forced. Reminds me of when GM took the Pontiac Solstice (my wife's car) and designed it to the Saturn Sky. The Sky was totally forced and contrived in comparison. It had to bolt around what they already had underneath. Same goes here, and it shows.

The front grill shape is horrible, and the grill itself is hideous. It's a bunch of Nissan Cube window shapes all lumped together. Very juvenile.

I don't like the hood at all either. They tried to make the car look longer up front by flattening and extending it forward more before the drop. It has a similar appearance to what Mercedes did years back when they did the shark F1 sort of nose. But the Mercedes was much better.

WTF are those stupid "fake" slits at the front corners? No holes, no lights, no nothing. A completely useless design exercise. Reminds me of the rear wheel fake vents on the Camaro but worse.

I don't like the side Z badge on the back C-pillar because it's better where it is on the 370Z.

As I already said, I hate the way the hood line goes into the side mirrors.

The window and roof lines are 370Z all the way - no change.

The Katana Sword thing is such a childish gimmick. Just a way to "try" to distract people that the line is the exact same as on the 370Z.

The rear hips are okay, but I like the 370Z bulges better.

The back end is almost too smooth, to the point of being completely boring. The only thing to like is how fast it cuts off. A nice short tight rump.

Overall, no dice for me. There is no way I would swap this with my 370Z, even for better performance. I don't even think it's good looking enough to buy even if I didn't already have a Z.

The only thing I can say positive right now, is that this is a Proto, so some things could change (especially that fugly front). And, as we all know, cars almost always look better in real life than in pictures or videos. So, like the new Corvette C8, I will reserve final judgment until I get to see it, sit in it, and drive it.

Until then, just more evidence why Nissan is sinking in quick sand. They lack real deal decisive direction.

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Neo2070

Tough critics here! Remember people it is still a prototype and can change from the final version! Just be thankful they are giving you a new "Z" and not scrapping the whole "Z" line all together given the current economic state that Nissan is in and the difficult sales of the "sports car" in general, I am surprised that Nissan is even going thru with plans for a new "Z"
AND they kept the manual transmission! What more do you want?

Bonzo

Yep. I agree.

But IMO NOW is the time to speak up. I seriously doubt that front nose is 100% locked in. Especially if the rumors of 2023 have any merit (I certainly hope not). Swapping in a new front is the easiest cheapest thing they could change. So if people speak now about the major things, its possible they could get changed. If everyone just sits around singing kumbaya, nothing will happen.

I for one don't mind that its a refreshed 370, but just don't act like its not, Nissan folks. That reveal show was all a bunch of mush that tried to go around the truth.

I'm very happy the Z car is moving forward. I hope it helps Nissan keep going and grow. But considering the market, and how low the 370 sales were for the last 11-12 years, I'm just not sure this car is going to cut the mustard. Its certainly not C8 Vette excitement. Love it or hate it, that C8 is going to sell like hot cakes and steal potential Z buyers even at the much higher price.

What we also got official news from the reveal that they didn't even THINK about a new Z until 2017. Really? WTF is going on at Nissan? The 400Z should have been released in 2017, not just begun. Its a sad state of financial affairs and leadership there. Certainly not like 2003 when they were kicking arse.

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goeagles11

Ok - I don't think yellow is the right color for an unveil...really disappointed they went with that.

The grill is just lazy and absolutely a no go. The Q60 has a massive grill done right, I don't know why this one looks so out of place. It's too sharp edged, and even Alfonso glossed over it as if the grill was an after thought in the reveal event.

"The grill is not an artificial element, it is a result of the things around it". Sounds like an excuse for a lazy design.


The rear has potential, would really need to see it in another color to make a determination.

The interior is a 10/10. Overall...my hype didn't increase, but glad this thing is legit.

Mark1010

Nope, no, nada. At this point it wouldn't make any short list for me. There isn't a single picture from the 23 on Car and Driver's gallery that make me like this car. Hoping a different color is what I'm needing and/or to see it in person.

takemorepills

After looking at the interior pics, I saw:
Turbo boost gauge and Turbo impeller speed gauge. This tells me it is the 400HP 3.0TT as on the Q60 the 400HP Red Sport has turbine speed sensors, the 300HP 3.0TT doesn't.

I saw the typical Nissan key fob thing (lower left of steering wheel), same as my Q60. The "Proto" is very likely a fully functioning chassis.

RicerX

WONDERFUL eye dude. I didn't catch that.

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RicerX

If you've been around more well executed digital gauge clusters (Audi digital cockpit comes to mind), you're probably suspicious Nissan sourced Fisher Price's "My First Digital Gauge Cluster" for this prototype.

Otherwise, this car is a solid starting point. Was hoping to learn more, but it was clear Cuban-Fabio wasn't going to do more than marketing speak after about 5 minutes of "heritage" and "design" so I muted it and went to look for pictures elsewhere.

I'll keep my eye out.

sunkist350z

Pretty interesting on how the concept of the z35, I actually like the first rendering of the first picture in red.

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/09/ni...-speed-manual/

cooltoy

Better, but I want to see what Amuse will do.

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vtec to vvel

To each their own.

I personally think it's ugly, and makes me appreciate my 370Z that much more. This proto just doesn't flow and looks forced, for lack of better words. Despite having years to prepare, it seems as if the proto was put together half-@$$ed and at the last minute. I do like the wheels though. The front reminds me of a variation of an s2k, and the proportions just don't seem right between the front and the back when looking from the side (too long of a nose and too short of an @$$). Car doesn't look aggressive and looks like it's smiling (picture teeth where the grill is).

Carlos Ghosn is probably laughing his @$$ off right now looking at this concept.

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Zoren 370

What about Randy Rodriquez ( from Tesla now work with GM designing Buicks and Cadillac) who pen the design of the 370Z ...I bet you he is having abdominal craps laughing about this design.

Please don't get offended its from a catfish front design ( which I like looks aggressive) to a front looking Tadpole with mouth open wide.