[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

280driver · 01-15-2020, 08:30 PM

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/112869

Here’s the source for the info on the Z34 getting the tt motor for ‘21 and Z35 being delayed until ‘25. There’s a tab to read a (rough) English translation. Seems plausible but who knows. Pics are not legit thankfully.

NissanTracker · 01-16-2020, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280driver

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/112869

Here’s the source for the info on the Z34 getting the tt motor for ‘21 and Z35 being delayed until ‘25. There’s a tab to read a (rough) English translation. Seems plausible but who knows. Pics are not legit thankfully.

HAHA... I literally just posted this. Im about to buy a 19 Nismo and want the VQ30DDTT

New Z34 with VR30DDTT 2021 | Z35 2025+

JARblue · 01-16-2020, 04:43 PM

Seems legit...

2017370ZBlack · 01-16-2020, 05:05 PM

This seems realistic. Love the idea of a 240Z inspired front end, with a 300ZX inspired tail light treatment.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/16/...-nissan-z-car/

280driver · 01-16-2020, 10:40 PM

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/01/ne...gn-and-400-hp/

Another though this differs in that they report dealers have been shown a mock-up.

Rusty · 01-16-2020, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 280driver

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/01/ne...gn-and-400-hp/

Another though this differs in that they report dealers have been shown a mock-up.

The last sentence in that article gets me.

"grain of salt".

tvfreakazoid · 01-16-2020, 11:11 PM

The auto tranny is a weak link. Especially compared to the tiptronic

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UNKNOWN_370 · 01-17-2020, 10:01 AM

https://www.motor1.com/news/393342/n...itial-details/

Heres a Z35 article. According to the article, aside from the engine, only the front is changing and the interior. I'm guessing the chassis might not change? So they're doing what they shouldve done 4 yrs ago with the interior and 2 yrs ago with the engine?
I dunno. But with the current Nissan issues I think Nissan is about to fvck this up. The Q60 is not a good car. If its gonna be a short Q60 with a sentra interior. it's not gonna do well.

Keeping it manual will be good.
But to really get sales,put a DCT in it.
The Z chassis needs to be Nismo stiff on the base car and the Nismo needs to be camaro or ATS-v or alfa romeo stiff.

280driver · 01-17-2020, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://www.motor1.com/news/393342/n...itial-details/

Heres a Z35 article. According to the article, aside from the engine, only the front is changing and the interior. I'm guessing the chassis might not change? So they're doing what they shouldve done 4 yrs ago with the interior and 2 yrs ago with the engine?
I dunno. But with the current Nissan issues I think Nissan is about to fvck this up. The Q60 is not a good car. If its gonna be a short Q60 with a sentra interior. it's not gonna do well.

Keeping it manual will be good.
But to really get sales,put a DCT in it.
The Z chassis needs to be Nismo stiff on the base car and the Nismo needs to be camaro or ATS-v or alfa romeo stiff.

I thank some of these articles are confusing what sounds like an updated Z34 coming soon and the delayed Z35. Sounds like if there is an updated Z34, it will be the same body with a new front/rear, new interior and TT engine. Z35 would be a clean sheet design.

tvfreakazoid · 01-17-2020, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://www.motor1.com/news/393342/n...itial-details/

Heres a Z35 article. According to the article, aside from the engine, only the front is changing and the interior. I'm guessing the chassis might not change? So they're doing what they shouldve done 4 yrs ago with the interior and 2 yrs ago with the engine?
I dunno. But with the current Nissan issues I think Nissan is about to fvck this up. The Q60 is not a good car. If its gonna be a short Q60 with a sentra interior. it's not gonna do well.

Keeping it manual will be good.
But to really get sales,put a DCT in it.
The Z chassis needs to be Nismo stiff on the base car and the Nismo needs to be camaro or ATS-v or alfa romeo stiff.

They definitely wont change the chassis. That's why they were using the q60 engine in a 2009 z body. Plus it doesnt make sense cost wise to use a new chassis for 1 car. Especially a low volume car.
Plus nissan isnt doing good financially.
And the automatic tranny is a let down too. I dont know why they are using that vs a tiptronic or dct.
But their dct is outdated

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UNKNOWN_370 · 01-17-2020, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

They definitely wont change the chassis. That's why they were using the q60 engine in a 2009 z body. Plus it doesnt make sense cost wise to use a new chassis for 1 car. Especially a low volume car.
Plus nissan isnt doing good financially.
And the automatic tranny is a let down too. I dont know why they are using that vs a tiptronic or dct.
But their dct is outdated

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The least they can do is lighten the steel while strengthening it and reinforce it.
The throw in a DCT...This 7 speed is outdated.

tvfreakazoid · 01-17-2020, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The least they can do is lighten the steel while strengthening it and reinforce it.

The throw in a DCT...This 7 speed is outdated.

Too much time, cost and effort I assume.
Their 7 sp dct which the gtr uses is outdated.
The current auto tranny is a 9sp which doesnt make sense and definitely not as good in performance compared to other brands.

I dont know how well the new Z will compared to bmw supra. Bmws auto transmission is better than nissans.

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UNKNOWN_370 · 01-17-2020, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Too much time, cost and effort I assume.
Their 7 sp dct which the gtr uses is outdated.
The current auto tranny is a 9sp which doesnt make sense and definitely not as good in performance compared to other brands.

I dont know how well the new Z will compared to bmw supra. Bmws auto transmission is better than nissans.

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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/n...ng-140401.html

Heres another publication.

The hardest part of this car is the transmission and the chassis. Let's just hope for the best. Maybe they can get a new tranny contract and outsource. I know the next GTR must be getting a new tranny.

It's a TOUGH market right now where big cars have small car agility. So the Z has to be a small car with supercar agility.

cv129 · 01-17-2020, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The least they can do is lighten the steel while strengthening it and reinforce it.
The throw in a DCT...This 7 speed is outdated.

Would love a DCT in the Z, but probably too expensive, both to equip and maintain. Ask the BMW guys. The ZF 8 speed is almost as crisp, but smaller package, cheaper to maintain, and much smoother in stop-n-go situation. I’ll take that as a compromise.

The programming is probably the main reason why our 7at feel ancient too. BMW and Porsche figured out how to program a transmission for sports driving.

-ZS-Carpenter · 01-17-2020, 06:16 PM

I do like a couple of those renderings though, would love to see more 240 in the design if they ever make a new one

01-15-2020, 08:30 PM	#4711 (permalink)
280driver Base Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 128 Drives: 1975 280Z Rep Power: 8	https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/112869 Here’s the source for the info on the Z34 getting the tt motor for ‘21 and Z35 being delayed until ‘25. There’s a tab to read a (rough) English translation. Seems plausible but who knows. Pics are not legit thankfully. NissanTracker likes this.

01-16-2020, 04:43 PM	#4713 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Seems legit... Rusty, cooltoy, Hotrodz and 3 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

01-16-2020, 11:11 PM	#4717 (permalink)
tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10324	The auto tranny is a weak link. Especially compared to the tiptronic Sent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk __________________ Mudders milk

01-17-2020, 10:01 AM	#4718 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	https://www.motor1.com/news/393342/n...itial-details/ Heres a Z35 article. According to the article, aside from the engine, only the front is changing and the interior. I'm guessing the chassis might not change? So they're doing what they shouldve done 4 yrs ago with the interior and 2 yrs ago with the engine? I dunno. But with the current Nissan issues I think Nissan is about to fvck this up. The Q60 is not a good car. If its gonna be a short Q60 with a sentra interior. it's not gonna do well. Keeping it manual will be good. But to really get sales,put a DCT in it. The Z chassis needs to be Nismo stiff on the base car and the Nismo needs to be camaro or ATS-v or alfa romeo stiff. NecioVato likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 01-17-2020 at 10:14 AM.

01-17-2020, 06:16 PM	#4725 (permalink)
-ZS-Carpenter A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,410 Drives: 13 370z 6MT Rep Power: 2684367	I do like a couple of those renderings though, would love to see more 240 in the design if they ever make a new one cv129, Optimiser and sx moneypit like this.

01-16-2020, 05:05 PM	#4714 (permalink)
2017370ZBlack Base Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL Posts: 78 Drives: 2017 370Z Black 6MT Rep Power: 7	This seems realistic. Love the idea of a 240Z inspired front end, with a 300ZX inspired tail light treatment. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/16/...-nissan-z-car/

01-16-2020, 10:40 PM	#4715 (permalink)
280driver Base Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 128 Drives: 1975 280Z Rep Power: 8	https://www.carscoops.com/2020/01/ne...gn-and-400-hp/ Another though this differs in that they report dealers have been shown a mock-up.

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