i'm being funny bitching about it since we all know it's real now sooooo what can we complain about now? lol :bowrofl:

who cares? there is a 6cyl turbo in the lineup available now. that's what really matters.

:driving:

if it's ugly, it could have a turbo on top of a turbo on top of a turbo on top of a turbo and i wouldn't want it lol. hopefully the z will look a lot better.

sooooooo you're saying if there was a girl who's body was immaculate but her face was only a 6 you'd say no?


:facepalm:

I think it looks very good. It will probably look great in person. Clean flowy design. Nothing dramatically overdone.

Hope it doesn't weigh too far north of 3555lbs.

im gonna go with 3650-3900lbs.

3650 is doable since this falls on the luxury side of things, but North of that is too heavy.

depending on how many drinks i'm in... i don't want a ferrari in a ford body

the q just looks too big for my tastes. starts reminding me of a challenger. but it is supposed to be a luxury vehicle so i get that. just not my cup of tea

looks in the pic are one thing. i'm waiting til we can see one in person.

:tiphat:

that's true as well.. in pics she may look like a 8 but when you see her in person she looks like :rofl2:

fair enough... i mean the z was supposed to rival the porche boxer (ehh the hardtop version,... whatever they call it now). even now the z has a slight similarity to the porche curves. kinda.


and when you WOT at low rpm with roids it'll be so great on the engine :ugh2:



photo's were adultered. they could have touched stuff up and photoshopped the crap out of it. we all know instagram models who look great then you realize wtf when you see them in person.


the numbers are okay. i'm curious to see what the whp/wtq will be.

400hp/350tq

not posted actual dyno tested *******.


yea our z has 332 but really it's like a modest 280whp on average.

well then take 400 x 17% as avg drivetrain loss for RWD and Auto then BOOM guesstimated WHP :bowrofl:

400*.17=68

400-68=332

you now have stock 370zBHP at the wheels stock lol

it all just came full circle

like doing my equation where my car is at 390BHP

390*.17=66.3

390-66.3=323.7 which is damn near close to my dyno number lol

you know you can do it like this too


390*.83=323.7...

you know... less steps and same outcome.



like let's take an sexanology.

you gonna go down and fondle and unstrap/zip, kissies and crap.

or you can just dive down like leo in wolf of wall st and last all 7 glorious seconds.

yes I know the quick way to do it but people appreciate when you take you time and show your attention to detail and hard work.

also dual meaning as a sex analogy. :tiphat:

or you can state it another way... you get about 85% power from the pansymatic drivetrain.


dual meaning? as in 2 in the stink 1 in the pink?

but i guess it's wrist deep in the stink for you :stirthepot:

it's like 3-5% difference between manual and auto I believe.

also you keep it up and i'll be elbow deep in you :stirthepot:

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400hp with a turbo 6 is a great starting point. I'm sure it will be pretty easy to make quick cheap reliable power out of it.

personally i think we won't be able to squeeze much more out without jeopordizing the reliability...

i mean we got FI builds pushing in the high 4-low 5 range and been fairly reliable but we are also using a larger displacement engine.

it would be cheaper to change parts though because it's already built into it.

sorta like the sti/cla45 amg engine... they're great and all but how much more can you squeeze out of those small engines before POP?

I think it'll be the other way.

look at the GT-R engine. intake/exhaust/tune they gain 100whp avg and it holds up just fine.

hoping it's a strong well built engine like that vs some lame little block at it's limits stock.

well assuming it's as strong as the VHR engine, same restrictive breathing tubes, and a crappy csc...

yea i think it's possible to have it holding 450whp with intake/exhaust/tune.

the clutch (assuming they even make a manual) will probably be the weak point again making another assumption it'll be similiar conversion into the Z

lotta assumptions... can't wait to see a few on the road and tuners pushing these babies.

and then we get kicked in the teeth and they pull a lexus on us.

make the ECU so hard to crack you can't do squat.

So you guys heard??? NO R36 GTR TILL 2020 or later...

I bet same goes for the Z... I'm waiting for next Nissan news which has been iterations of NO NEWS.

The 2.0 will have to sell around the price of an 1LT Camaro
The 3.0 in between the 1SS and 2SS, STARTING PRICE.

Some of the formulas are common logic and nearly undebateable. If the 2.0 Camaro is 3360lbs right now?
The Z should be able to cut into the same 500lb advantage it had in 2009.

Now... Moving on to technologies. What's going to make the Z cheap is the fact that all our cars are controlled by high gig tablet technology unified to the ECU. That's why the Camaro is so highly appointed at such a low price.

No back seats means less materials to use during build.

The GRIP Z chassis will most likely be the source for the next Z. Being that, the 3 door Juke concept is 2,500lbs with the higher roof line and added weight of all wheel drive. A LOW SLUNG COUPE SHOULD BE LIGHTER. I don't know why y'all making something highly possible, seem impossible? All of the bits are there. Irs all about putting it together.

Somebody compare and contrast styling differences between G37 and Z34 then apply same sorts of changes to production ready Q60 -- and that's probably what we'll get for a Z35.

Anybody up for this? :D

I don't think they will be using the same chassis though. The Z will most likely be built on the grip z chassis.

The Q60 is an advanced FM chassis.

Oh... The Q60 looks like a"MAXIMA COUPE". Not a fan. The sedan is nicer. All those years waiting for an underwhelming design.

Curious why you think the Z35 will use a GRIP chassis? The Q60 will (more than likely) share the same engine, why not the chassis just like the G37/370?

because aliens

*insert history channel crazy hair guy here*

weight... New technolgy. The Juke platform is the future. Way lighter than the FM.

Using the information below and if you were the owner of a car manufacturing company. What direction would you choose for your new 2 seat sports coupe?

2015 US car sales:
Nissan 370Z - 6,529
FRS - 9,314
MX5 Miata - 7,153 (1,000+ a month for last 4 months, probably due to new design, sales 300 or under prior months)
Nissan Juke - 23,266
Porsche Cayman - 3,064
Corvette - 28,924

If you choose to compete in the inexpensive, small/light, lower powered segment. The 8 year old 370Z is already doing a decent job against the FRS & Miata.

Notice the Juke sales basically equals 370Z, FRS & Miata combined. Nissan may have cancelled the IDX because it feared that this market was too small for another car and/or it would have just taken it's own sales away from the Juke.

I'd opt for the V6TT 400 or higher hp Z and try to keep the price point and weight as close to the current Z as possible. As I mentioned earlier, you'd still at the very least retain your existing sales. Plus you'll steal some from the other small/light competitors and this gives you a real shot of taking a chunk sales from the largest seller in the 2 seat category, the Corvette. Whether you're a big fan of it or not, horsepower does not hamper car sales one bit.

I'm gonna need to go ahead & do a few mods to mine. (CAI,headers,exhaust & tune) that's good for about 50-60 whp.
Currently stock & don't have any problems pulling off from ss camaros,GT mustangs or smaller hemis in Challengers,,, but new camaro will require me to upgrade to compete.
(0-60 in 4.0sec. & low 12's qtr. Pretty good.) but that's with 125hp & 157tq at wheels more than my ~Z~


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That's numbers on 16' 8speed auto ss camaro


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FRS/BRZ was an engineer attempt at that. don't get me wrong, i see a lot on the road. they're neat little cars but after the honeymoon period the sales started falling off.

handles great? sure.

aesthetically appealing? sure.

got balls? not really. my cousin has the brz, he floored it and we zipped along. sure he can chirp is prius tires in third but it just didn't have the vroom vroom i like. the 2nd gear felt a bit limp.

So motor trend spotted the new Q60 uncovered on the streets (which looks really good) Badge on the front fenders shows "3.0t" Ladies and gentlemen I think it's safe to say we're expecting twins! Remors suggest 375 hp! Maybe Nismo we'll have more.

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...35-capture.png

black_sedan's earlier post show 400hp for Q50. I think it's safe to assume the Q60 will be the same or more.