[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

RicerX

Did you not read the articles posted?

Also, double check your definition of longitudinal.

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RicerX

^ ok to clarify one part, the base V6 is in question. Auto Express says N/A V6, Car and Driver says twin turbo V6.

Both make sense, especially since Infiniti and Merc have broken off any partnership going forward. I'm going to dig that article up.

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Wonka2581

Went and test drive the GT4 and holly sh*t balls Bateman.. that thing is sick... but after speaking with the wife I'm going to hold off and see what Nissan comes out with. My buddy told me that it won't be an issue to find another Cayman later on. I'm a die hard Z fan.. I'm keeping my options open to see if Nissan comes through.

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Jordo!

Okay -- good. This is what I expected. Sounds like they will just transfer the Q innards to a redesigned Z (but, probably based on Q) body.

So, about same weight, shorter wheelbase, and another 50-70 bhp at the crank. Sounds good to me!

I wonder if that 7-speed will be a true dual clutch or just the current offering. Either way, that works for me, and If I can swing it, I'll definitely be getting the 400 bhp 7AT/DCT

I'm guessing it will probably not cost much more than the current Nismo, so 45 -47 MSRP.

Cross shopping with the Supra sounds probable -- although as we've all been discussing, the Toytota ECU's tend to be locked, so the Z will be the car that's much easier to tune... therefore, almost certainly the better option.

Hopefully someone on here will be able to get info on invoice pricing...

Can't wait!

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ThaeMaestro

I'm sure youre wright about the weight and the power but the wheelbase?

Im excited to see the NA model. If its close to 3000lbs at 300hp, I'd be happy with that. Maybe a sport package with big brakes and some rays would be nice as well.

damn i cant wait to see it. I'm kind of hope i find it ugly so I dont want to buy it . . .

Ape Factory

You should hope it uses the existing Infiniti Q chassis. It'll mean a whole lotta chassis parts will fit from the current platform. The old and new G/Q chassis have identical front suspension, wheelbase, geometry and brakes. The rear is true type no has the spring on the damper body. So it's minor update chassis wise if they use the existing Infiniti platform. As we know the current z and the old G37 were much the same minus 12" in wheelbase.

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Ape Factory

Yep I blew that one but yes, I read the article. I'll bet money there's no n/a base V6.

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TKP-Zeto

Do you guys really think the next Z is gonna be a 500HP Hybrid car? I don't believe that, no way. At least, not at 50k, considering the 46k the current Nismo Tech MSRPs at.

I mean, that's frightfully close to GTR power, and I don't think Nissan would let that happen, the same way Porsche wouldn't ever let the Cayman midship be more flagship than their 911.

I mean, that same person who said the next GTR might be 800HP linked an article from 2014, saying an 800HP GTR might be sold as a 2016 model year... *rolls eyes*

370Z JT

It would make sense if Nissan does a 300 HP base, 400 HP sport, 500 HP Nismo. The Nismo can go head to head against the RCF, AMG C63, M4 and be priced around $65K range. That would get the Nismo brand more respect. And if the next gen GTR does get the rumored 800 HP, that would be a big difference in HP to separate it from the 500 HP Z.

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Redglare

I am confused by your 65k range statement, you are suggesting that a historically affordable ~30k car [or equivalent of a loaded camry] will suddenly become almost the same price as a c7 z06, nissan tried that before with the 300zx and that did not work out for them.

What they need to do is transplant that 3.0T from the Q60, massage some power out of it, keep the weight around the same as the z34[probably won't happen, look at the Q60 weight its 3862- 4023lbs], add a manual transmission in it, heck even the current 6 speed can take the power, just fix the weak parts in it and maybe add a 7th gear.

Price it like the current gen, do not exceed the price of a base corvette and the sales will flow in, nismo can come later and they can price it at whatever they want, as long as the bread and butter base/sport version is affordable, fast, competitive in the market and fun.

cliff notes:
-expect a re-skinned q60, hopefully with a manual transmission, weight gain will be unavoidable, not sure how they can turn a 4,000lb Q60 into a 3200lb Z.
Maybe at best they can shave 200-300 lbs, placing the Z at 3500+lbs.


the Z34 will remain the go to car for a couple of reasons; good power/weight balance, the dimensions are just right to have reasonable consumable usage on the track, N/A engine - i.e. no issues with turbos + longevity.

If you ever seen any newer mustang at the track and talk to the owner, the #1 complaint is how fast the car eats the brakes & tires. The current Z isn't really great at that too but having a sub 3400lb weight really helps with the consumeables, i.e. you can get significantly more track time out of the same consume able parts in a Z, there is some hypothetical point where the weight dips over a certain #, the consumeable degrade in a logarithmic manner.

Nithmo

I'd be happy with 350hp again. Anything more is a plus. To me, that's not a lot of power for wanting to go fast in a straight line, but through the corners, it's plenty. I can see 400-450hp tops, coming from nissan. I'd be shocked at anything more.

The 500hp is just a concept I bet. Everyone will be dissapointed when we don't actually get it.

UNKNOWN_370

Looks like I was a day behind on my information....

Wow so they are goingbto base the Z on the updated FM platform. Well, a Q60 is 3,862lbs... If u cut around 400-500lbs it will average around 3,450? Will we have electronic steering and all that Q60 useless trash in our new Z? The only thing I like about the Q60 is the engine.

So basically, after a long fvckin wait with no news? The final news is we're getting a cut down Q60? So Nissan is adding another soulless car to the stable of soulless cars? The Q60 is fine for what it is, but it's no sports car... The hum drum sports car market is become more him drum with all this electronic gadgetry. This car better look good at the auto show. Cuz if it don't? I'm done with all future Nissan purchases. The dual clutch is a nice touch.... but ugh.... if everything else is electronic. Why bother, the PS4 steering in the Q60 sucks.

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Tick64

Patience Daniel-san, patience...

ThaeMaestro

See, now your seeing the truths me not dreaming of the concepts. You let yourself down a little there!

Well anyways my prediction is the base z will weigh 3,2xx so they can say it's lighter an have nice looking stats.

MagmaRed370z

They should mimic what Mazda has done with the ND Miata. It would be nice to see the next Z with TwinTurbos at around 420 HP and below 3,300 pounds.

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