[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

UNKNOWN_370

All I know is.... straight line. It's dead....

https://youtu.be/SmQSxDpSBtw

Road course.... this Z driver is disgustingly bad in the Apexes and the FRS seems to be able to come in to the corner at a higher rate of speed. But he ain't really making a dent on the road course. 370z ends up in front of a 350 and the frs behind the 350.

https://youtu.be/l_9Q3chYAo0

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Z1NONLY

Actually the factory-installed understeer that the Z has makes it easier to correct once a mistake is made. (This is with the nannies turned off on both cars of course)

But yes, the balance I refer to is the car's "bias" in response to inputs. The Z is more inclined to understeer than the Twins are.

Also, I have never driven a Z with tires as low-grip as the ones that come on the Twins. Now that I think about it, I can't think of any sports car I have driven with stock tires that slippery off the top of my head.

If I use the same tire on both cars, in each car's stock sizes, the Twins will hold more speed through transitions. Heck, it's not a stock vs stock comparison, but I have data showing my CS FRS holding more speed through turns than my STU 350Z. Thats 225 tires on the FRS and 275 tires on the 350Z with custom coilovers, and ideal alignment. Now, the STU Z completed the run in less time than the FRS, but it did so by digging out of tight corners quicker than the FRS....It was slower through the turns.

Jordo!

By any chance can you output data graphically that shows where one car is faster or slower on a given turn on the track you use?

That would be really interesting and informative for purposes of comparing and contrasting.

Something similar to this?

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babyzilla

Every time I get a notification for this thread I'm hoping it has to do with an actual Z35 update, but nope..just everything other than the subject lol

Z1NONLY

Indeed...



In the interest of not further derailing the thread:
Z Vs FRS by Mike L | Photobucket
All but one of the samples display lowest speed for a given turn, the other is just a visual line-up of the same corner. The manual-overlay method is not frame-by-frame precise. (30fps GoPro vs 10hZ GPS, but all GPS data correctly correlates to their respective turns and minimum speed is still minimum speed for a turn)


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Driftomodachi

I have a feeling that the z35 will only be automatic. I hope I am wrong.

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TN.Z

I sincerely hope not. Even if it has a manual it will most likely be unchanged version of the current 6 speed transmission.

UNKNOWN_370

Well I've finally made the final decision of upgrading to the 2018 Nismo when it drops. I'm not waiting for the Z35. If 2018, doesn't add a color or something to attract another year of sales... I will get a used 2016 or 2017. I'm praying they add a new color to the Nismo palette. Either. Gun metallic? Bring back that 40th color or magma red. When it comes to Nismo Z colors? Nissan gets it half wrong. There's an inner laziness with Nissan and the Z I can't stand. That's the real reason why they do not sell. They're so slow to do the simple things and never do the amazing things.

Anywho.... I found a 2016 Nismo with under 3,000 miles at an amazing price... I'm only interested in silver or black. So I'm going to post this amazing deal for anyone looking.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...rts&emc=alerts

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FERRARI

This listing is for an automatic......wouldn't have it if it was free

babyzilla

I have my eyes set on silver. I feel like they're MUCH harder to find though.
Curious to know why you're set on 18 YM and not just get a 16/17 right now..it's not like they're any different. Also, why aren't you waiting for z35?

I'm trying to wait for at least a z35 update before pulling the trigger, but it just keeps getting harder as each day goes by. I have a feeling the z35 won't be what I'm expecting and will confirm the purchase of a z34 for me.

Jordo!

On that note: Is it confirmed that the '18 Nismos will still have the cool new body kit?

I think I'm jumping ship for a 4c before the end of this year.

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SgtGoldy

change the damn bug eye headlights to the ones on the Giulia and you have a phenomenal car

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babyzilla

Cool new body kit? I'm not sure if I'm following - the latest nismo hasn't been changed since '15.
I'm simply going off the heritage edition BS model that's practically unchanged. I haven't heard anything about the other '18 models, but if that's the case for heritage edition I don't see why they would do anything to the nismo or any other model.

UNKNOWN_370

We don't know what they may add in 2018 yet. Nissan hasn't made their annual press release. That said, believe it or not, Nissan always upgrades the Z. Most of it can't be seen. Whether different spring rates. Gear ratios or clutches, there's always something. Also, I'm hoping they possibly add a color to the palette and it may very well be the last model year? First and last are the best to have!!

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280driver

I agree. The Nismo would look great with new head lights. The bumerang design has not aged well in my opinion.