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ryang 10-13-2015 11:04 PM

I believe the percentage is the chances of them making an announcement of the model at the show.

MC 10-13-2015 11:34 PM

for what is worth nissan already put out the line up for their exhibit at tokyo motor show. there was no mention of the Z.

FPenvy 10-14-2015 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 3327787)
for what is worth nissan already put out the line up for their exhibit at tokyo motor show. there was no mention of the Z.

with all your connections cant you just call up someone and get us some answers already? lol

:tiphat:

RicerX 10-14-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 3327787)
for what is worth nissan already put out the line up for their exhibit at tokyo motor show. there was no mention of the Z.

There was no mention of the newest Nismo Z until about 2 or 3 days before ZDayZ either :stirthepot:

xfrgtr 10-14-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3327914)
There was no mention of the newest Nismo Z until about 2 or 3 days before ZDayZ either :stirthepot:

There is a big difference between the announcement of a new Z and a new nismo Z.

MC 10-14-2015 02:57 PM

yeah im just saying you would think like most manufacturers do they would atleast say something like an all new concept will be shown ect..... and then get the buzz going but not even a mention of it. there is a minor facelifted GTR( still R35) coming out any day now and I was 100% sure if would be shown at the Tokyo Motor Show as well but no mention of it either.

their big headliner seems to be a real world rolling shell concept of the 2020 Vision GT concept. its going to have a fleshed out interior working headlights and a new paint scheme. other than that there is the gripz again and little compact scion like vehicle. press release also mention 20 cars total but I took that to be the entire existing line up....so who knows. but with 2 weeks to go im not optimistic

it sucks because the TMS is every 2 years and while its possible and even likely the Z might be shown for the first time outside of a Japanese show it just seems like a missed opportunity to at least have something there to keep the Z in everyone's mind.

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3327877)
with all your connections cant you just call up someone and get us some answers already? lol

:tiphat:



yeah I know right. my best connection moved over from Z and GTR to be one of the lead guys on the new titan truck. the new guys I interact with are super cool just toe the corporate line a bit more so its hard to get straight answers from them ;)

FPenvy 10-14-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 3328180)
yeah im just saying you would think like most manufacturers do they would atleast say something like an all new concept will be shown ect..... and then get the buzz going but not even a mention of it. there is a facelifted GTR coming out any day now and I was 100% sure if would be shown at the Tokyo Motor Show as well but no mention of it either

their big headliner seems to be a real world rolling shell concept of the 2020 Vision GT concept. its going to have a fleshed out interior working headlights a new paint scheme. other than that there is the gripz again and little compact scion like vehicle. press release also mention 20 cars total so who knows. but with 2 weeks to go im not optimistic

it sucks because the TMS is every 2 years and while is possible and likely the Z might be shown for the first time outside of Japan it just seems like a missed opportunity to at least have something there





yeah I know right. my best connection moved over to be one of the lead guys on the new titan. the new guys I interact with are super cool just toe the company line a bit more so its hard to get the good stuff from them ;)

Nisan seems to be too focused on retarded concept vehicles that will never make it to production. it's very sad.

sidenote I thought the 370 was debuted at the LA show?

im hoping they keep the Z alive and update it soon. the C7 has been looking tempting and now the BMW M2 is so sexy and priced pretty decently. there's always my one and only love the GT-R if the financials line up lol I mean if the M@ with options is 65-70 and I can go get a 15 gt-r with very low miles for 75 its a no brainer lol just saying the longer Nissan waits the competition for the older growing 370 crowd's dollars is gonna go elsewhere it seems if not gone already.

MC 10-14-2015 03:13 PM

maybe they are just waiting for the Q60 coupe to be shown in production form and follow suite after that? i dunno

yeah LA auto show was it. so its not locked in to Tokyo its just there is a bit of a drought in Z land right now and if they had something ready and wanted to really push it the timing just seems right for Tokyo but that doesnt seem like the case.


M2 looks like one of the most promising cars in a while and supposed to start low 50's. I would say that is in a different bracket and not apples to apples with the Z but then again weve all seen the window sticker on a NISMO Tech these days. so unfortunately is a tiny bit closer than one might think although the performance is on two different planets


75K 2015 GTRs are a reality as the market is in bad shape right now. I would look for a under 15K miles high 60's 2013 as it was the fastest year before they got softened up a bit

FPenvy 10-14-2015 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 3328200)
maybe they are just waiting for the Q60 coupe to be shown in production form and follow suite after that? i dunno

yeah LA auto show was it. so its not locked in to Tokyo its just there is a bit of a drought in Z land right now and if they had something ready and wanted to really push it the timing just seems right for Tokyo but that doesnt seem like the case.


M2 looks like one of the most promising cars in a while and supposed to start low 50's. I would say that is in a different bracket and not apples to apples with the Z but then again weve all seen the window sticker on a NISMO Tech these days. so unfortunately is a tiny bit closer than one might think although the performance is on two different planets

oh I know the M2 and Z are separate brackets. i'm just saying unless the next Z or Q60 come out and wow me, i'll probably just move up to something like the C7, M2, etc...

I think the Q60 proto was sexy and if the 3.0 TT makes it in that and well at the Z I may just have to stick around lol

OEM 400HP boosted Z?! of course i'll go with that.....as long as it looks good of course.

MC 10-14-2015 03:24 PM

I fear the Q60 coupe might be received how the Lexus RC was as sort of panned as looks the part but too soft and not up to german competition by any stretch of the imagination

speaking of the Q60 coupe this article speculates if it will make a surprise appearance at TMS . which would make the Z even less likely as im sure they want to stagger the debut of their two similar cars

【東京モーターショー15】市販前提も しくは市販直前と予想されるクルマ は!? - 【自動車パーツ・用品】ニュース - carview! - 自動車

FPenvy 10-14-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 3328218)
I fear the Q60 coupe might be received how the Lexus RC was as sort of panned as looks the part but too soft and not up to german competition by any stretch of the imagination

speaking of the Q60 coupe this article speculates if it will make a surprise appearance at TMS . which would make the Z even less likely as im sure they want to stagger the debut of their two similar cars

【東京モーターショー15】市販前提も しくは市販直前と予想されるクルマ は!? - 【自動車パーツ・用品】ニュース - carview! - 自動車

yea I agree. highly doubt they would debut both together. kinda leaves some hope to repeat the debut at LA though for the Z. I mean its only 1 month separation from Tokyo but could be enough? lol

I just wish we had even some slight hint at what the fate of the next Z was or when.

tvfreakazoid 10-14-2015 03:39 PM

Its odd that the Z hasnt had any decent changes since 2009. Only minor cosmetic changes here and there. Thats not good.
The gtr same. But at least it had a decent power boost but not too much of a change over the yrs.
Nissan needs to hire new people or something

2 by 2...hands of blue

NRTim 10-14-2015 08:38 PM

Here's an article about the next Infiniti Q60:

Infiniti Q60 Coupe to Debut at 2016 Detroit Auto Show

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Look for more details on the production Infiniti Q60 toward the end of this year, ahead of the car's debut in January 2016.
If the production version of the Q60 is gonna be unveiled at the 2016 Detroit Auto Show then we're getting close to the next Z..... I hope.

triso07 10-17-2015 06:47 AM

The Q60 design is very nice. Leagues above what Nissan has been putting out lately. Clean flowy lines. In Forza 6 the car is 400hp and around 3650lbs.

Too heavy for a Z, but the motor seems promising if they share it.

MagmaRed370z 10-17-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NRTim (Post 3328405)
Here's an article about the next Infiniti Q60:

Infiniti Q60 Coupe to Debut at 2016 Detroit Auto Show



If the production version of the Q60 is gonna be unveiled at the 2016 Detroit Auto Show then we're getting close to the next Z..... I hope.


According to this article, the production model is "very very close" from the concept shown in the pictures. Also it states that it carries a "3.0-liter twin-turbo V-6 engine". Hopefully this will carry over to the new Z.

Jordo! 10-17-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3329777)
According to this article, the production model is "very very close" from the concept shown in the pictures. Also it states that it carries a "3.0-liter twin-turbo V-6 engine". Hopefully this will carry over to the new Z.

I think that's a pretty safe bet. For all their musing over a "completely new platform", it just doesn't make sense for them to do that.

Throw the 3.0 TT in there, market it as the "Triumphant Return of the 300ZX!!!", then, try and shed 100 lbs or so. So long as it goes faster, has turbo, and looks and handles as well or better than the 370: win :tup:

xfrgtr 10-17-2015 02:08 PM

Datsun teases concept car for Tokyo Motor Show

MagmaRed370z 10-22-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3329883)
Datsun teases concept car for Tokyo Motor Show

Where?

jcosta79 10-22-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3333118)
Where?

Probably Tokyo

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NRTim 10-23-2015 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3333118)
Where?

It's another crossover lmao

Datsun concept crosses over for 2015 Tokyo show by CAR Magazine

MagmaRed370z 10-25-2015 07:24 PM

The comments on this page are LOL Next Nissan Z could be more like original 240

Rusty 10-25-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3334900)
The comments on this page are LOL Next Nissan Z could be more like original 240

In other words. They still don't know what the helll they're doing. :shakes head: Or what he said was to throw people off of the trail. Keep everyone guessing. :shakes head:

Davey 10-26-2015 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3334900)
The comments on this page are LOL Next Nissan Z could be more like original 240

:shakes head:

At barely $30K for the base model, the current Z is already "the affordable sports car."

/Angelo350Z/ 10-26-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3328222)
Its odd that the Z hasnt had any decent changes since 2009. Only minor cosmetic changes here and there. Thats not good.
The gtr same. But at least it had a decent power boost but not too much of a change over the yrs.
Nissan needs to hire new people or something

2 by 2...hands of blue

Agreed. The lack of innovation is what kills products. I'm surprised the 370Z is still somewhat relevant after 6 years. Then again, the S2000 was able to milk it for longer, so congrats to Nissan I suppose. At least the 350Z, like the GT-R, though to a much lesser extent, continued to grow and improve throughout its lifespan. Drive an '03 and '08 Z back to back and the difference in driving experience is very noticeable. The Z33 even carried 3 different motors in its 5 or 6 years. Drive an '09 and '15 Z on the other hand, and well, the improvement in driving dynamics is almost absent. My 350Z is just slightly more modded than the 370Z, but the latter doesn't feel too much of an upgrade with the exception of the interior materials, Syncho Rev, and added mid-range torque.

I'm not putting down the Z, I'm obviously a fan. I just hope Nissan gets the Z35 right or I am going to jump ship.

NRTim 10-29-2015 03:40 PM

Nissan says GT-R and 370Z are not

I wonder how long are they going to keep the 370Z around...

sx moneypit 10-29-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim (Post 3337464)
Nissan says GT-R and 370Z are not

I wonder how long are they going to keep the 370Z around...

:facepalm::gtfo2:

6spd 10-29-2015 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim (Post 3337464)
Nissan says GT-R and 370Z are not

I wonder how long are they going to keep the 370Z around...

The steering is gonna feel like those old arcade racing games that try to steer for you lmao!

Nixin 10-29-2015 05:17 PM

Now if we could just devise a way for the autonomous driving vehicles to autonomously pay for themselves.

DOOMMONKEY777 10-30-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3329789)
I think that's a pretty safe bet. For all their musing over a "completely new platform", it just doesn't make sense for them to do that.

Throw the 3.0 TT in there, market it as the "Triumphant Return of the 300ZX!!!", then, try and shed 100 lbs or so. So long as it goes faster, has turbo, and looks and handles as well or better than the 370: win :tup:

Is it that Benz engine they threw in there or a new nissan 3.0L?

I haven't heard nissan having a new 3.0L engine, i know they got that 1.5L LeMans turbo engine, if they put than in the next 240sx(or w/e they call it) i might think twice about that 3 banger.

Z_ealot 10-30-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3338257)
Is it that Benz engine they threw in there or a new nissan 3.0L?

I haven't heard nissan having a new 3.0L engine, i know they got that 1.5L LeMans turbo engine, if they put than in the next 240sx(or w/e they call it) i might think twice about that 3 banger.

Nissan's new 3.0L twin turbo engine will power the next Q60 coupe

DOOMMONKEY777 10-30-2015 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3338356)
Nissan's new 3.0L twin turbo engine will power the next Q60 coupe


there is no Nissans 3.0L twin turbo, but this one comes the closest to it:
= http://www.benzboost.com/content.php...b-ft-of-torque

Z_ealot 10-30-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3338411)

You were saying?

Infiniti Q60 Reviews - Infiniti Q60 Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver

Scroll down to "the redeemer"

Rusty 10-31-2015 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3338411)

3.5L V6 tubro with 333hp and 354 lbs of torque at 10.2 of boost. :icon14:

3.0L V6 turbo with 333hp and 354 lbs of torque at 26.1 of boost. :icon14:

For a boosted motors. The HP numbers are low for gas. For a diesel. Think that would be about right. :icon17: But both are gas motors. Reading in the comments section. Everyone is surprised at the low HP numbers.

Wonka2581 10-31-2015 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3338542)
3.5L V6 tubro with 333hp and 354 lbs of torque at 10.2 of boost. :icon14:

3.0L V6 turbo with 333hp and 354 lbs of torque at 26.1 of boost. :icon14:

For a boosted motors. The HP numbers are low for gas. For a diesel. Think that would be about right. :icon17: But both are gas motors. Reading in the comments section. Everyone is surprised at the low HP numbers.

:confused::confused:

Rusty 10-31-2015 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3338556)
:confused::confused:

My thoughts too. :confused::confused:

MagmaRed370z 10-31-2015 08:33 AM

Nothing is certain.

Davey 10-31-2015 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3338560)
My thoughts too. :confused::confused:

Maybe redline is 5500 RPM? :icon17:

2011_6Spd 10-31-2015 11:48 AM

If they have a chassis that is 2800-2900 lbs with that motor it will scoot. The thing that concerns me is the high amount of boost for a daily driver.

Wonka2581 10-31-2015 01:26 PM

Why wont they just use the motor we already have and TT it?

DOOMMONKEY777 10-31-2015 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3338442)

Ohh, you see i didnt know that, u should have put it in in the early post, anyhwooo....Now am thinking nissan might have bought the blueprints and slightly adjust the design and call it their own?


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