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More power = less reliability Done with more power....this car is more than enough power. Its a corner carver not a drag racer.... Dont need it wont waste my money

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Old 01-29-2017, 10:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.
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More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.
On the one hand I agree with you, on the other

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More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.
You can get the base 4 cylinder option n ride around reliably....


I'll take my chances on poor reliability n go for the gusto!!!


With the next GTR possibly heading to 800HP.I don't think 500HP will be that big o deal.

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You can get the base 4 cylinder option n ride around reliably....


I'll take my chances on poor reliability n go for the gusto!!!


With the next GTR possibly heading to 800HP.I don't think 500HP will be that big o deal.

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Wont need the 4 cylinder I have a 6 cylinder right now ....I got 18k on a 2011 this car will last me 25 years...
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Wont need the 4 cylinder I have a 6 cylinder right now ....I got 18k on a 2011 this car will last me 25 years...
I'm not trading my Z34. I'm adding a Z35
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Same here.
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Regarding the talk of a 304hp base model, I think this means we'll see the return of the VQ35 into the Z. Longitudinal version of what we've seen start in the Maxima and proliferate through the Pathfinder, QX60, Murano, and Altima. This also means that the VQ37 will be completely finished by 2018 after the exit of the 370Z and Infiniti QX50. End of an era, indeed.

My concern is that the base V6 model may be the only place to find a manual transmission if one is offered. I absolutely hope to be wrong here, but I can see that fitting. Hopefully Nissan realizes that at least the 304hp and 400hp version of the car absolutely require a manual. A hybrid version making 500hp-ish... I can see the case where they stick to using the DCT exclusively. Come to think of it, I can't think of any car south of $100k that offers a manual transmission mated to a hybrid configuration at all.
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Regarding the talk of a 304hp base model, I think this means we'll see the return of the VQ35 into the Z. Longitudinal version of what we've seen start in the Maxima and proliferate through the Pathfinder, QX60, Murano, and Altima. This also means that the VQ37 will be completely finished by 2018 after the exit of the 370Z and Infiniti QX50. End of an era, indeed.
Given the fact the Z will most likely be based on the same chassis as the Infiniti Q50/60, and the Z will be (hopefully) neither be FWD or AWD, there'd be zero reason for a longitudinal engine layout.

The base engine, if there is one, is going to be the same twin turbo 3.0L found in the Q. Or...a higher output version of the 4-cylinder Mercedes-based engine which is producing up to 375hp in their cars. That would match what Ford has done with the Mustang and MB has already said they're working on a new high output 4-cylinder. They (MB) get increased revenue with no R&D and Nissan gets a somewhat lightweight and potentially powerful 4-cylinder mated to a DSG gearbox. Take a test ride in an Audi S3 which is every bit as quick as the current Z with more bang/buck when it comes to mods (short of going forced induction on the Z). If they do have a 300hp version of the 4-cylinder, it'll piss off the Q50/60 owners that get a 200hp version of the same engine. Maybe they'll be getting a bump followed by bumps for the "base" 3.0TT and RS version. Wishful musings.

Still, I think the base engine will be the VR30DETT. That's where they've put all their R&D $$$.
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Given the fact the Z will most likely be based on the same chassis as the Infiniti Q50/60, and the Z will be (hopefully) neither be FWD or AWD, there'd be zero reason for a longitudinal engine layout.

The base engine, if there is one, is going to be the same twin turbo 3.0L found in the Q. Or...a higher output version of the 4-cylinder Mercedes-based engine which is producing up to 375hp in their cars. That would match what Ford has done with the Mustang and MB has already said they're working on a new high output 4-cylinder. They (MB) get increased revenue with no R&D and Nissan gets a somewhat lightweight and potentially powerful 4-cylinder mated to a DSG gearbox. Take a test ride in an Audi S3 which is every bit as quick as the current Z with more bang/buck when it comes to mods (short of going forced induction on the Z). If they do have a 300hp version of the 4-cylinder, it'll piss off the Q50/60 owners that get a 200hp version of the same engine. Maybe they'll be getting a bump followed by bumps for the "base" 3.0TT and RS version. Wishful musings.

Still, I think the base engine will be the VR30DETT. That's where they've put all their R&D $$$.
Did you not read the articles posted?

Also, double check your definition of longitudinal.
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Did you not read the articles posted?

Also, double check your definition of longitudinal.
Yep I blew that one but yes, I read the article. I'll bet money there's no n/a base V6.
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^ ok to clarify one part, the base V6 is in question. Auto Express says N/A V6, Car and Driver says twin turbo V6.

Both make sense, especially since Infiniti and Merc have broken off any partnership going forward. I'm going to dig that article up.
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You should hope it uses the existing Infiniti Q chassis. It'll mean a whole lotta chassis parts will fit from the current platform. The old and new G/Q chassis have identical front suspension, wheelbase, geometry and brakes. The rear is true type no has the spring on the damper body. So it's minor update chassis wise if they use the existing Infiniti platform. As we know the current z and the old G37 were much the same minus 12" in wheelbase.
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Do you guys really think the next Z is gonna be a 500HP Hybrid car? I don't believe that, no way. At least, not at 50k, considering the 46k the current Nismo Tech MSRPs at.

I mean, that's frightfully close to GTR power, and I don't think Nissan would let that happen, the same way Porsche wouldn't ever let the Cayman midship be more flagship than their 911.

I mean, that same person who said the next GTR might be 800HP linked an article from 2014, saying an 800HP GTR might be sold as a 2016 model year... *rolls eyes*
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It would make sense if Nissan does a 300 HP base, 400 HP sport, 500 HP Nismo. The Nismo can go head to head against the RCF, AMG C63, M4 and be priced around $65K range. That would get the Nismo brand more respect. And if the next gen GTR does get the rumored 800 HP, that would be a big difference in HP to separate it from the 500 HP Z.
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