[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Too6Z · 11-29-2016, 05:31 PM

Has Nissan not learned anything from the pricing issues with the 300ZX?

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Too6Z · 11-29-2016, 06:06 PM

Well for that price they can keep it.

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shirokenkami · 11-29-2016, 07:13 PM

Oh look, a BMW Z5 Coupe!

Jordo! · 11-30-2016, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaeMaestro

I'm not impressed so far ... And yeah I think it will probably be over 55k ...

The Z5 will be around 50K, I'm guessing the Supra will probably be at least 5 - 10 K less than the BMW. That will make it competitive with the Z.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-30-2016, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

The Z5 will be around 50K, I'm guessing the Supra will probably be at least 5 - 10 K less than the BMW. That will make it competitive with the Z.

This might be our only choice from Japan the way Nissan is going?

Toyota went from 0 sports cars to 4 real quick! 3 of them suck and one is waiting for arrival but....
At least they are trying. Nissan is becoming the Toyota of 98-12

Nithmo · 11-30-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This might be our only choice from Japan the way Nissan is going?

Toyota went from 0 sports cars to 4 real quick! 3 of them suck and one is waiting for arrival but....
At least they are trying. Nissan is becoming the Toyota of 98-12

which Toyota cars are you referring to?

The FR-S/86, and? LFA? and what else?

Not sure why you'd say any of them suck. The LFA was built to show off their skill, never to be the fastest. And it is still a damn fast car. Too many people like to bench race cars... "omg, the LFA is 0.3s slower than _____". Yeah, and even so, it's still throwing you into the seat and giving you a driving experience like nothing else.

Same with the 86... it's built for a younger crowd and it is exactly what cars from the late 80s to late 90s were about. Low power, supreme handling and a ton of fun with a ton of mod support behind them. The type of car you learn how to hit corners properly with, and hone your skills on, before moving to more power.

I'm sure the Supra replacement, whatever it's called, will be awesome also. A BMW engineered car, with Toyota reliability? Yes, please.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-30-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo

which Toyota cars are you referring to?

The FR-S/86, and? LFA? and what else?

Not sure why you'd say any of them suck. The LFA was built to show off their skill, never to be the fastest. And it is still a damn fast car. Too many people like to bench race cars... "omg, the LFA is 0.3s slower than _____". Yeah, and even so, it's still throwing you into the seat and giving you a driving experience like nothing else.

Same with the 86... it's built for a younger crowd and it is exactly what cars from the late 80s to late 90s were about. Low power, supreme handling and a ton of fun with a ton of mod support behind them. The type of car you learn how to hit corners properly with, and hone your skills on, before moving to more power.

I'm sure the Supra replacement, whatever it's called, will be awesome also. A BMW engineered car, with Toyota reliability? Yes, please.

GT 86

Rcf

LC

Supra

I said no matter how bad they are cuz they're bloated n slow. I don't buy the whole Prius tires make it handle gimmick on the frs. Sorry. I want a performance car!!! Not pseudo performance. Lfa is cancelled.

Jordo! · 12-01-2016, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This might be our only choice from Japan the way Nissan is going?

Toyota went from 0 sports cars to 4 real quick! 3 of them suck and one is waiting for arrival but....
At least they are trying. Nissan is becoming the Toyota of 98-12

Agreed. The 86 will need to sell for 20K to compete with the far more stunning MX5-RF. Hell, there's even a sweet new Fiat Spider to compete with. It's done. They failed and they know it. The plans for a vert and a blown version were tanked.

The 86 will probably be resurrected as a proper tuner car/hot rod in another decade or so, but for now, its over.

The LFA is a fantastic car, but also stunning failure. It's way too much money for what you get, and so hardly anyone owns them.

What's the third one?

I think the Supra will be excellent -- a 6 cyl motor plus boost with nice lines on the body = excellent sportscar value for those who prefer Japanese style and reliability over American muscle.

I think, akin to the ancient, yet ongoing, Mustang v. Camaro battle, I anticipate a Supra v. Z war for the soul of drivers who like Japanese cars.

If I can possibly swing it, I am getting one of them by or before 2019, and can't wait to test drive both

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Agreed. The 86 will need to sell for 20K to compete with the far more stunning MX5-RF. Hell, there's even a sweet new Fiat Spider to compete with. It's done. They failed and they know it. The plans for a vert and a blown version were tanked.

The 86 will probably be resurrected as a proper tuner car/hot rod in another decade or so, but for now, its over.

The LFA is a fantastic car, but also stunning failure. It's way too much money for what you get, and so hardly anyone owns them.

What's the third one?

I think the Supra will be excellent -- a 6 cyl motor plus boost with nice lines on the body = excellent sportscar value for those who prefer Japanese style and reliability over American muscle.

I think, akin to the ancient, yet ongoing, Mustang v. Camaro battle, I anticipate a Supra v. Z war for the soul of drivers who like Japanese cars.

If I can possibly swing it, I am getting one of them by or before 2019, and can't wait to test drive both

Agreed.... the LFA was a total fail on so many levels. $375,000 for a $200,000 car. It wasnt about 0-60. If we were that type. None of us would spend the kind of money we spent to buy Z's. We'd be in mustangs. At least those of us who actually invested in Nissan and bought a brand new car.

I hope the supra is a competitive car and that a proper Z comes next generation. Nissan is fvckin around and the Japanese yen is having issues again. I can see a repeat of 1996-1998.

jwick · 12-01-2016, 07:33 AM

Total fail, y'all are ridiculous. The LFA is a work of art. It's exactly what Toyota wanted it to be.

I love when people who can't afford a super car talk **** about it.

Thought this thread was about the next gen Z.

Cyber370 · 12-01-2016, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Total fail, y'all are ridiculous. The LFA is a work of art. It's exactly what Toyota wanted it to be.

I love when people who can't afford a super car talk **** about it.

Thought this thread was about the next gen Z.

Agreed. I can't believe how much ignorance is sometimes dished out on forums. Anyone that says the LFA was a failure knows absolutely nothing about the car and needs to read up on it or watch the documentary on the making of it. Toyota never meant for it to be a mass-produced supercar. It was meant to showcase what Toyota was capable of producing if money was not an issue. It was a hand-built work of art made in very limited numbers. It was an amazing achievement in every way. Nissan tried to do the same thing with the GTR but on a budget and on an assembly line. Both cars way exceeded expectations and objectives.

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370

Agreed. I can't believe how much ignorance is sometimes dished out on forums. Anyone that says the LFA was a failure knows absolutely nothing about the car and needs to read up on it or watch the documentary on the making of it. Toyota never meant for it to be a mass-produced supercar. It was meant to showcase what Toyota was capable of producing if money was not an issue. It was a hand-built work of art made in very limited numbers. It was an amazing achievement in every way. Nissan tried to do the same thing with the GTR but on a budget and on an assembly line. Both cars way exceeded expectations and objectives.

People mention how much it costs, but it cost half of what other cars with a full carbon monocoque cost.

Jordo! · 12-02-2016, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370

Agreed. I can't believe how much ignorance is sometimes dished out on forums. Anyone that says the LFA was a failure knows absolutely nothing about the car and needs to read up on it or watch the documentary on the making of it. Toyota never meant for it to be a mass-produced supercar. It was meant to showcase what Toyota was capable of producing if money was not an issue. It was a hand-built work of art made in very limited numbers. It was an amazing achievement in every way. Nissan tried to do the same thing with the GTR but on a budget and on an assembly line. Both cars way exceeded expectations and objectives.

As a feat of engineering, it's impressive. However, for the cost it trails the much less expensive GT-R

Lexus LFA vs Nissan GT-R - FastestLaps.com

It's not a shop car or a project car. It's a factory built, road legal supercar. It sounds lovely and looks amazing, but that makes it a beautiful work of art and a staggeringly overpriced sportscar.

As to who can afford what: I can afford neither a GT-R nor a LFA.

Even so, I understand the concept of value for the money.

The conclusion of this article is interesting: 2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R Comparison - Motor Trend

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Originally Posted by MT

As for what its worth on the street? You need only hear the intoxicating bark of that V-10 touching 9000 rpm to know the answer.

Every penny.

Seriously? A 375 grand noisemaker?

That's a noise maker for people who have palatial estates, private wine cellars and a yacht or two. I guess Toyota built it for people who want to take a noisy drive in the Hamptons

When the GT-R is identified as the pragmatic, bang-for-the-buck, "everyman"'s car that really says something

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-02-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

As a feat of engineering, it's impressive. However, for the cost it trails the much less expensive GT-R

Lexus LFA vs Nissan GT-R - FastestLaps.com

It's not a shop car or a project car. It's a factory built, road legal supercar. It sounds lovely and looks amazing, but that makes it a beautiful work of art and a staggeringly overpriced sportscar.

As to who can afford what: I can afford neither a GT-R nor a LFA.

Even so, I understand the concept of value for the money.

The conclusion of this article is interesting: 2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R Comparison - Motor Trend

Seriously? A 375 grand noisemaker?

That's a noise maker for people who have palatial estates, private wine cellars and a yacht or two. I guess Toyota built it for people who want to take a noisy drive in the Hamptons

When the GT-R is identified as the pragmatic, bang-for-the-buck, "everyman"'s car that really says something

Lol @ $375K noisemaker.

I found an article where fools were paying $465,000 for that noisemaker. LMAO.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 08:55 AM

Damn..... we rustled up the fanboy b1cth n3ss in some people. I know how it was built. I know what it is.

A Ferrari F12 is the same price. Cant afford a F12 yet but I can tell you right now which one is buy. I bought that $600 drive 4 superstars in a day package so I have some seat time in them and know what I like and don't like. Yeah at $375K. The LFA for me is a fail. But at least their are MK ultra fanboys in the world who succumb to corporate advertising. Otherwise corporations wouldn't make any money.

Up close and personal. I wasn't impressed with the LfA. Period. Deal with it.

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jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465057	Total fail, y'all are ridiculous. The LFA is a work of art. It's exactly what Toyota wanted it to be. I love when people who can't afford a super car talk **** about it. Thought this thread was about the next gen Z. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Damn..... we rustled up the fanboy b1cth n3ss in some people. I know how it was built. I know what it is. A Ferrari F12 is the same price. Cant afford a F12 yet but I can tell you right now which one is buy. I bought that $600 drive 4 superstars in a day package so I have some seat time in them and know what I like and don't like. Yeah at $375K. The LFA for me is a fail. But at least their are MK ultra fanboys in the world who succumb to corporate advertising. Otherwise corporations wouldn't make any money. Up close and personal. I wasn't impressed with the LfA. Period. Deal with it. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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