Why do u have to bring used into the topic if we are talking bout brand new.
If you could buy a used gtr dont u think u should consider the hypothetical factory 370z tt we are talking about.(you could buy the hypothetical 370z tt used too amirite?)
Read the thread ..we are talking about a tt from company for 60k.

Well that, and pretty much every other car in their lineup at the time was kinda on the substandard side aside from the Z, maxima and 240sx :)

The Z32 had a lot of factors in its demise.

If you notice, Nissan wasn't alone in retiring their sports car in the American market during this time. In fact, they did so within two years of their competition retiring the Supra, 3000GT, and RX-7 in the American market. The 300ZX made it all the way to 2000 in Japan, as the 3000GT made it to 2001 and the Supra and RX-7 made it to 2002 in Japan.

The rise of the SUV contributed to these cars leaving the American market. People simply weren't buying cars like this anymore, with the exception of the mainstays in the pony cars, which were much cheaper to buy, and cheaper to own and maintain than the turbocharged Japanese cars. Hell, even the Chevy Camaro died during the tail end of that period because of slow sales (and lack of attention from GM as the vehicle went virtually unchanged for 10 years).

Nissan did indeed have a lot of problems, but the Z32's demise was a result of those problems, not the cause of it. Once the Renault/Nissan alliance kicked off and Ghosn took control, the first thing to result from his work was the Z33, which was built to be a true Z car yet more relevant to the current market than its predecessor, which was a success as a result.

I still believe that Nissan "played it safe" with the Z34, but no one could have predicted the partial collapse of the automotive industry (or maybe someone did, hence playing it safe). Now the storm has been weathered, and Nissan can make the Z35 a success by playing to the strengths of the market and staying competitive. They can do it, and they did it with the Z33 - it's just a matter of whether they'll choose to do it for the Z35.

Wow. There are many speculations done over why a car fails etc etc, but you sir really know ur ****.

I'd be afraid of a 55k GTR...seems like you'd be getting a basket case/money pit for that price

the demise of the sports car industry was so brutal for me since i was still crawling out of diapers and didn't know how to add (fek still don't)

so the late 80's early 90's glory days of sports cars i didn't get to fully enjoy.

come now +2000's and we have a bunch of pseudo sport sedans and high end sports cars but the low/entry level market had like... nothing!

atleast now we have a bit more selection... sort of.

^ this is from early last year...looks big

Yup... Some of us are going to either stay in the Z family if the Z is what we hope and if not? Some of us may go upmarket to the low $1XX,000 arena? For some of us, if can we fulfill the vision of a great driving machine in the low end? We save money for other things... Cheaper cars give a more raw experience. That's the appeal.
But now premium makers like Benz, Jaguar and Lexus are seeing the appeal of raw hard edge machines in the upmarket arena. I'll buy an underdog car before a premium one if executed right? So many factors go into individual decision making. But if it can't be executed down low... High is the market we'll have to play in

watch F&F 1 and enjoy it vicariously.... lol




Fast 7 was amazing.! RIP Paul Walker

good thing the GTR is fast, that thing is so fugly

Anyone mention yet that a $60K Z is an excellent idea as it'll keep the F&F, Forza, Gran Turismo, Uncle Ben rejects from affording the next gen for awhile?

Oh and a $55K R35 is a time bomb at this point in time. I wouldn't touch it.

:iagree:

It has to be fast so nobody sees you in it.

Only until all the employee leased R35s hit the market. Then it will be the average for a moderately used DBA.