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Old 04-04-2015, 04:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Another thing to consider is that at that time, there was no REAL domestic threats and the japanese manufacturers ran the show. Now there is a lot more competition, and a lot of that has vehicles ranging from lethargic slushboxes with v6's and no features for low 20's, to crazy HP decked out death traps for around 50K, and all the crap in between. It'd make sense for Nissan to follow suit, but we'll see.
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To touch back on the interior subject, Frankly the Z34 is just as "Luxurious" as a sports car needs to be - Only thing I can think of to add is A/C seats to the Coupe (why is this Roadster only?!)

Tech wise we're pretty damned outdated as well - Case in point....To this day we still need the Nav Package to stream BT Audio while the current Altima can stream it with no problem, without nav....My Wife's '15 Sonata Limited is mind blowing. The car damned near drives itself and it starts at 20k is about 30k fully dolled up like hers is.

Also, Hyundai BlueLink is BAD. ***. I really hope Nissan steps it's game up and adds something like this to it's lineup.

Power wise if we don't have 400+ HP, We're a failure - No questions asked....the V8s are kissing 450hp out the box nowadays.

IMO the 370Z was damned near perfect, it just needed more power.

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To touch back on the interior subject, Frankly the Z34 is just as "Luxurious" as a sports car needs to be - Only thing I can think of to add is A/C seats to the Coupe (why is this Roadster only?!)

Tech wise we're pretty damned outdated as well - Case in point....To this day we still need the Nav Package to stream BT Audio while the current Altima can stream it with no problem, without nav....My Wife's '15 Sonata Limited is mind blowing. The car damned near drives itself and it starts at 20k is about 30k fully dolled up like hers is.

Also, Hyundai BlueLink is BAD. ***. I really hope Nissan steps it's game up and adds something like this to it's lineup.

Power wise if we don't have 400+ HP, We're a failure - No questions asked....the V8s are kissing 450hp out the box nowadays.

IMO the 370Z was damned near perfect, it just needed more power.
yea, the tech on my 2013 base + sport was appalling. There was a radio and thats it. in 2013!!! Inexcusable. I can start my 3.8 with my damn phone now....track my car on my phone. Push a button and send directions to my car...from my phone.
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^ the 2015 base model comes with bluetooth now
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I would pay $60k for a 3.7 TT Z. Heck i would pay more.
i dont mind the 'outdated' engine.
I have done it once and i will gladly do it again.

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I would pay $60k for a 3.7 TT Z. Heck i would pay more.
i dont mind the 'outdated' engine.
I have done it once and i will gladly do it again.

You would be the only one. The Z32 died because of this. Nissan simply cannot be THAT fricking stupid again. Amirite?

They can get a nicely loaded Z35 with 400+HP, new engine, everything, for mid $40's. The tooling and platforms are already there. Thats what keeps the current Z pricing reasonable. Its not going to be a Q, itll be exactly where the Z34 is. faster, harder than the G, but fewer "things". For cheaper. And thats the way it should be.
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You would be the only one. The Z32 died because of this. Nissan simply cannot be THAT fricking stupid again. Amirite?

They can get a nicely loaded Z35 with 400+HP, new engine, everything, for mid $40's. The tooling and platforms are already there. Thats what keeps the current Z pricing reasonable. Its not going to be a Q, itll be exactly where the Z34 is. faster, harder than the G, but fewer "things". For cheaper. And thats the way it should be.
The z32 died because nissan went bankrupt, end of story
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The z32 died because nissan went bankrupt, end of story
yea, due to piss poor marketing and business strategy. The Z32 is a prime example of failure in both aspects.
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yea, due to piss poor marketing and business strategy. The Z32 is a prime example of failure in both aspects.
Well that, and pretty much every other car in their lineup at the time was kinda on the substandard side aside from the Z, maxima and 240sx
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yea, due to piss poor marketing and business strategy. The Z32 is a prime example of failure in both aspects.
The Z32 had a lot of factors in its demise.

If you notice, Nissan wasn't alone in retiring their sports car in the American market during this time. In fact, they did so within two years of their competition retiring the Supra, 3000GT, and RX-7 in the American market. The 300ZX made it all the way to 2000 in Japan, as the 3000GT made it to 2001 and the Supra and RX-7 made it to 2002 in Japan.

The rise of the SUV contributed to these cars leaving the American market. People simply weren't buying cars like this anymore, with the exception of the mainstays in the pony cars, which were much cheaper to buy, and cheaper to own and maintain than the turbocharged Japanese cars. Hell, even the Chevy Camaro died during the tail end of that period because of slow sales (and lack of attention from GM as the vehicle went virtually unchanged for 10 years).

Nissan did indeed have a lot of problems, but the Z32's demise was a result of those problems, not the cause of it. Once the Renault/Nissan alliance kicked off and Ghosn took control, the first thing to result from his work was the Z33, which was built to be a true Z car yet more relevant to the current market than its predecessor, which was a success as a result.

I still believe that Nissan "played it safe" with the Z34, but no one could have predicted the partial collapse of the automotive industry (or maybe someone did, hence playing it safe). Now the storm has been weathered, and Nissan can make the Z35 a success by playing to the strengths of the market and staying competitive. They can do it, and they did it with the Z33 - it's just a matter of whether they'll choose to do it for the Z35.
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I said 3.7 with a twin turbo.
The tt is worth 10k alone..if we are getting all that with no downtime..it most definitely seems worth it
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The tt is worth 10k alone..if we are getting all that with no downtime..it most definitely seems worth it
Only to people like you and I who want massive power and are willing to pull out their wallets for it. To make sense financially a car like the Z also has to appeal to the buyer who's just looking for a sporty coupe to bop around in So if it's too overpriced to compete with v6 Mustangs, Scibarus, and Miatas, they're going to lose a lot of sales.

If I were on Nissan's board I'd say screw the average consumer and let's only offer a TT 6MT hardtop with adjustable coil-overs, launch control and variable boost... but maybe that's why I'm not in business. They'd sell like 5 of them.
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Only to people like you and I who want massive power and are willing to pull out their wallets for it. To make sense financially a car like the Z also has to appeal to the buyer who's just looking for a sporty coupe to bop around in So if it's too overpriced to compete with v6 Mustangs, Scibarus, and Miatas, they're going to lose a lot of sales.

If I were on Nissan's board I'd say screw the average consumer and let's only offer a TT 6MT hardtop with adjustable coil-overs, launch control and variable boost... but maybe that's why I'm not in business. They'd sell like 5 of them.
See, I KIND of agree with you both. I would like that too and heres why. Its Vette dynamics and it wouldnt be a Vette for Vette pricing. But yea, it aint gonna happen, they have to move minimum 10,000 units a year.
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Only to people like you and I who want massive power and are willing to pull out their wallets for it. To make sense financially a car like the Z also has to appeal to the buyer who's just looking for a sporty coupe to bop around in So if it's too overpriced to compete with v6 Mustangs, Scibarus, and Miatas, they're going to lose a lot of sales.

If I were on Nissan's board I'd say screw the average consumer and let's only offer a TT 6MT hardtop with adjustable coil-overs, launch control and variable boost... but maybe that's why I'm not in business. They'd sell like 5 of them.
Put me number one on that list.

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