[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Volk Z · 07-21-2016, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r

Well It look like 2016 is the last year.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...A5IAP2bSAz9JrQ

Tell me you're not going off from that article you linked... Its full of false information and claims that don't exist. It said a concept Z was released in 2015?? Ummm negative, no concept has been released. It also states a 300hp 4 Cylinder turbo motor and that's the only engine...

We all can say that most likely a V6TT 400hp and 4 cylinder turbo engine will be offered under speculation but that article is garbage.

MagmaRed370z · 07-21-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r

Well It look like 2016 is the last year.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...A5IAP2bSAz9JrQ

2016 is not the last year. There are already 2017s out there. If you go to nissanusa.com and select the Z you can clearly see that it says 2017 as the model year.

FPenvy · 07-22-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

2016 is not the last year. There are already 2017s out there. If you go to nissanusa.com and select the Z you can clearly see that it says 2017 as the model year.

US model year is a 2017.

Don't get tied up on stupid little details like that. Especially with it being a Japanese car and they use a different model year system than we do

zguynate · 07-21-2016, 11:27 PM

To piggyback off of what unknown said, you keep bringing up the GTR and a 400hp Z possibly cannibalizing the GTR. That's probably true right now, but the next gen GTR is supposed to be a whole new crazy monster. It will undoubtedly be AWD, a hybrid with almost instant torque, and is supposedly going to have over 700hp. A rwd 400hp Z won't be anywhere near the same market as the new GTR. Through all of this speculation, I can almost assure you that the next GTR is going to be a pretty large leap over the current gen, therefore giving the Z more play room as far as power goes.

Volk Z · 07-22-2016, 07:02 AM

The next Z better not have active noise canceling non sense like the 2016+ models.

I would like to see:
1. Recaro seats offered like in the nismo
2. Blacked out headlights (please Nissan keep this you are even doing it in the altimas)
3. Short tail end (no big butt like domestic cars)
4. A few "different" color choices other than 9 silver options haha (oh Nissan you and silver paint)
5. A nice factory exhaust note (350z sounded better than my 2013 Nismo)
6. Non notchy transmission (try a different fluid Nissan it does wonders!!)
7. Lose the clunky door handles! Go more GTR door handle style! (I'm sick of having to paint those dang things and still look ugly)
8. Keep the total weight under 3200 pounds.

Thank you Nissan, now release the concept and specs so we can all get along on here

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z

The next Z better not have active noise canceling non sense like the 2016+ models.

I would like to see:
1. Recaro seats offered like in the nismo
2. Blacked out headlights (please Nissan keep this you are even doing it in the altimas)
3. Short tail end (no big butt like domestic cars)
4. A few "different" color choices other than 9 silver options haha (oh Nissan you and silver paint)
5. A nice factory exhaust note (350z sounded better than my 2013 Nismo)
6. Non notchy transmission (try a different fluid Nissan it does wonders!!)
7. Lose the clunky door handles! Go more GTR door handle style! (I'm sick of having to paint those dang things and still look ugly)
8. Keep the total weight under 3200 pounds.

Thank you Nissan, now release the concept and specs so we can all get along on here

I love a phat Azz though! Our Z34's have a beautiful Azz!!!

Volk Z · 07-22-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I love a phat Azz though! Our Z34's have a beautiful Azz!!!

I should have phrased this differently. I meant elongated rear. I.e. 2005 corvette vs 2015 corvette tail.

Wide is good, long like a nascar from the side is no bueno.

It's one thing I love about the 370z over the 350z is the shorter tail.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z

I should have phrased this differently. I meant elongated rear. I.e. 2005 corvette vs 2015 corvette tail.

Wide is good, long like a nascar from the side is no bueno.

It's one thing I love about the 370z over the 350z is the shorter tail.

Chuck33079 · 07-22-2016, 09:18 AM

The honest truth is that we'll be lucky if they don't kill the Z outright. It was a sales disaster. Ghosn runs his company by the numbers, and if the Z is only selling 5k a year we won't have a Z for long. It's a hard sell for Nissan to spend a lot of money retooling for such a low volume seller.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The honest truth is that we'll be lucky if they don't kill the Z outright. It was a sales disaster. Ghosn runs his company by the numbers, and if the Z is only selling 5k a year we won't have a Z for long. It's a hard sell for Nissan to spend a lot of money retooling for such a low volume seller.

I feel like they have a couple HUGE reason to start from scratch on the Z.

1. The Z is a heritage car. It's name has resonated for 47 years and most generations have had an impact in the automotive world.

2. Before the HONORABLE MR. K. passed away. The father to our cars. The man who invented Z philosophy. He test rode/drove the 370z and was very very disappointed. He thought the Z34 evolution was shameful at best. He thought the car was heavy and drove like a truck.

The Japanese take honor seriously. I think the next Z for right now is not just about "the numbers" or about Carlos Ghosen. It's about Nissan not destroying it's own heritage and disrespecting the man's legacy that put Datsun-Nissan's name on the world map? If there was no Z? Nissan wouldn't have grown in the 70's to the heights that they did.

I believe this one is for Mr. K. If this gen doesn't pan out? Then next generation I foresee a cancellation or no export. The corvette has only sold 12,000 units last year. And plans keep going forward. So I think a quality Z can sell close to that number. Especially abroad where it's name gets more respect.

njobe89 · 07-22-2016, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I feel like they have a couple HUGE reason to start from scratch on the Z.

1. The Z is a heritage car. It's name has resonated for 47 years and most generations have had an impact in the automotive world.

2. Before the HONORABLE MR. K. passed away. The father to our cars. The man who invented Z philosophy. He test rode/drove the 370z and was very very disappointed. He thought the Z34 evolution was shameful at best. He thought the car was heavy and drove like a truck.

The Japanese take honor seriously. I think the next Z for right now is not just about "the numbers" or about Carlos Ghosen. It's about Nissan not destroying it's own heritage and disrespecting the man's legacy that put Datsun-Nissan's name on the world map? If there was no Z? Nissan wouldn't have grown in the 70's to the heights that they did.

I believe this one is for Mr. K. If this gen doesn't pan out? Then next generation I foresee a cancellation or no export. The corvette has only sold 12,000 units last year. And plans keep going forward. So I think a quality Z can sell close to that number. Especially abroad where it's name gets more respect.

if they took honor seriously, they would have fixed the csc issue, but yet they haven't touched it. honor is long gone, no more

sgosh · 07-22-2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

if they took honor seriously, they would have fixed the csc issue, but yet they haven't touched it. honor is long gone, no more

Most cars are international collaborations nowadays, from design teams to parts manufacture to final assembly.

Regional cultural traits are (nearly) irrelevant. Today's manufacturers play globally, and the thing that motivates is profitability.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

if they took honor seriously, they would have fixed the csc issue, but yet they haven't touched it. honor is long gone, no more

CSC warranty issues are separate from designing a sports car but I understand your logic behind what you're saying.

sgosh · 07-22-2016, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The honest truth is that we'll be lucky if they don't kill the Z outright. It was a sales disaster. Ghosn runs his company by the numbers, and if the Z is only selling 5k a year we won't have a Z for long. It's a hard sell for Nissan to spend a lot of money retooling for such a low volume seller.

... in its current, Mostly Unchanged Since 2009 Form, sure.

A clever revamp that ticks the boxes for what the current market wants at the right price? Why not? That takes a bit of investment, but executed properly, it'll recup itself.

Whether Nissan's capable of that ... is another discussion.

ped · 07-26-2016, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The honest truth is that we'll be lucky if they don't kill the Z outright. It was a sales disaster. Ghosn runs his company by the numbers, and if the Z is only selling 5k a year we won't have a Z for long. It's a hard sell for Nissan to spend a lot of money retooling for such a low volume seller.

Not really fair there since the Z is getting long in the tooth - of course it's sales numbers will lag compared to when it came out. Other manufacturers have had nearly a DECADE to one-up it!

07-21-2016, 11:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 74	To piggyback off of what unknown said, you keep bringing up the GTR and a 400hp Z possibly cannibalizing the GTR. That's probably true right now, but the next gen GTR is supposed to be a whole new crazy monster. It will undoubtedly be AWD, a hybrid with almost instant torque, and is supposedly going to have over 700hp. A rwd 400hp Z won't be anywhere near the same market as the new GTR. Through all of this speculation, I can almost assure you that the next GTR is going to be a pretty large leap over the current gen, therefore giving the Z more play room as far as power goes. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

07-22-2016, 07:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3066	The next Z better not have active noise canceling non sense like the 2016+ models. I would like to see: 1. Recaro seats offered like in the nismo 2. Blacked out headlights (please Nissan keep this you are even doing it in the altimas) 3. Short tail end (no big butt like domestic cars) 4. A few "different" color choices other than 9 silver options haha (oh Nissan you and silver paint) 5. A nice factory exhaust note (350z sounded better than my 2013 Nismo) 6. Non notchy transmission (try a different fluid Nissan it does wonders!!) 7. Lose the clunky door handles! Go more GTR door handle style! (I'm sick of having to paint those dang things and still look ugly) 8. Keep the total weight under 3200 pounds. Thank you Nissan, now release the concept and specs so we can all get along on here __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON

07-22-2016, 09:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	The honest truth is that we'll be lucky if they don't kill the Z outright. It was a sales disaster. Ghosn runs his company by the numbers, and if the Z is only selling 5k a year we won't have a Z for long. It's a hard sell for Nissan to spend a lot of money retooling for such a low volume seller. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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