hahahahah! pontiac Aztek is quite possible the uglist car man has ever produced

Nissan needs to fire their head designer. With each passing year they are making their cars look more and more cartoonish.

That rendering is absolutely terrible. It has no Z like qualities and doesn't even look like a sports car.

Nissan is facing some serious competition in this segment, now with the new upcoming 2016 Miata, Alpha Romeo 4C, GTI-R, Civic Type R, Boxter GTS among many others.

They really need something very very interesting. Just like when they introduced the Z32 TT.

Don't know if you find this very very interesting:

Variable Compression Ratio Piston-Crank System | NISSAN | TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES

They pioneered synchro rev matching. C'mon Nissan, give us gold. Again.

One of the things I like best about the 15+ NISMO is how it has the GT-R vibe from the DRL's and accents.

Nissan needs to do that more, as well as have some more overall developmental synergy between the Z35 and R36. The Z would work well as a NA 2-seat RWD cheaper variant of the TT 4-seat AWD GT-R.

Well yea that's what we've been saying for a while now. A 450hp 2 seat Z WITHOUT AWD or launch control would not detract sales from a 2+2 600hp+(soon to be 800hp) super car killer.

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Nissan switched rolls with GM. GM did a redesign every 10 years back in the day and Nissan every 5 or 6. Now it's vice versa.

The Next Generation Z Car
 

The 370Z is in its seventh model year so Nissan has to be thinking about the future of the Z car. So, there have been all kinds of rumors out there about what the next Z will be. The latest thing I've read from June '15 is that they want to go down market and try to compete with the Miata, FRS, BRZ and get back to the affordable sports car that was the original Z concept. This would mean dropping the weight and engine size, probably using the Joke's (er, I mean Juke's) 1.8L 4-cylinder with a turbo to make around 200 HP. I'm wondering what this forum thinks about a lighter, cheaper, less powerful platform, or, do you think Nissan should slap in a V8 or Turbo V6 and go up with more muscle? I was kinda hoping to see a 450Z myself. :stirthepot:

I dont see a v8. Im hopeful for a turbo 6, and disgusted at miata comparable turbo 4

Like you said, all we can do is speculate and talk about what Nissan is going to do. There are so many threads on the next Z car. All these rumors going one way and the others that contradict with each other. I personally hope they don't go that route and try and be a FRS/BRZ.. Turbo please :excited:?!

I think I have a thread about this. Subaruwrxfan reports

Well said....*drops the mic* lol

I hope they stop production of this car completely. To make mine so much more rare and or collectors item.

I want to see a V6 TT version for the Nismo and a Single Turbo for the other versions.

Let's beef it up and not be like the FRS or BRZ (of which I think of it as a lowered camry s)

How many of these? 2017 earliest IF they don't take a hiatus.

I'm not sure which test drive disappointed me more... the cumbersome, wallowing sow that was the Camaro SS or the anemic, laughably underpowered waif that was the much-lauded Scion FRS (aka Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86).

I chose the Z over a 5.0 Mustang due to its balance of power and handling, striking aesthetics, and general grin factor. Full knowing that the 5.0 is faster in every way, mind...

If there were anything I'd change about my Z it would be to simply add power, preferably in the form of about 50ft/lbs of mid-range torque, an aspect which is severely lacking in this car (I'm used to Mustangs).

I'd have no desire to purchase a Miata competitor. A turbo VQ37 would be ideal, a return to an I-6 would be a bold and welcome statement, and a N/A v8 could once again out-compete the current muscle cars while being somewhat of a departure from what the Z was intended to be in the first place. A 4-cylinder IMO is just an insult and should never carry the iconic Z badge.

So, true. I was going to get the new mustang over my current Z but I just love the looks and balance of the car. Plus, I don't see the Z much on the streets and I get more glances with the Z. If they do make a 4 cylinder Z, even if it is turbo, I would never get another one and just keep mine. I would love a turbo v6 and a v8 would be great.

You picked the wrong SS to test drive if you're an enthusiast? The 1LE will **** on all of the above.

TTV6... that's all that needs to happen.

I have to agree with Lucas61, overall those are my sentiments also, as far as the 5th gen. Camaro goes look at all the significant improvements they have made in five years, but you had to wait that long to get a decent car. Along with improvements have come significant price increases and now with the Ford finally making at better Mustang here comes the next Camaro with improved refinements. I think I would rather purchase a decent used 7th gen. Corvette if I can trust build quality and reliability.

I love the idea of an I6. I remember Honda was originally thinking I5 for the S2000. Would be nice to see Nissan use two of those heads in a big V12 for a super car. That probably wouldn't happen with the GT-R, though.

Mustangs do not age well and are generally a dime a dozen. I like the new Camaro.

I agree. Turbo V6 would be ideal and true to the legacy, but a V8 would be great...just give me more HP. A 4-cylinder Z that could be outrun by an Altima would be a travesty. The Camaro's and Mustangs are just too common. I see a lot of 350Z's out there, most of them in pretty rough shape. I see very few 370's and that is a big selling point IMO.

:iagree:...lowered Camry S :icon18::rofl2:

I think most of us here would agree that there should be 3 different trims for the new Z. A regular v6, TT v6, and a v8. That would be the most logical route, maybe.

That's a little presumptuous, don't you think?

I am the 1%, apparently.

Unless I missed something last month, the latest semi-reliable rumor is that they have axed the idx and are now looking to downsize the Z a bit to keep it closer to the 86/Miata territory.

There has been ZERO mention of an OEM V8 option -- ZERO.

If they keep the price below 30K base, add a well sorted turbo 4 or small turbo 6, shed 300+ LBS, maintain approximate grunt while further fine tuning handling and braking, I'M still in.

I think it's still all up in the air tho' because Toyota is bringing something to the table with a BMW engine in it and Mazda is at least pondering a new rotary. Neither will be able to compete with the GT-R, so they will either be Z fighters or define their own niche as the new "not a Porsche, but close, and cheaper" category, where the Z currently stand (and may or may not remain).

I honestly don't think the Japanese or Germans are interested in taking on the "Pony-hey-now-we-can-also-turn-and-brake-just-like-real-sports-cars-sorta-cars. That's a strictly American (and maybe Australian by way of Holden/GM) thing.

Lol there's not even a new Z confirmed ... If they announce one I imagine a 2019 / 2020 release . We should all just shut up and stop speculating untill Nissan gets it together and stops offering overpriced nismo vehicles and gives enthusiasts a non niche car .

No chance at a V8. The Ford dealership is thataway ------>

A lot of people seem to be against a turbo 4 but I think as an entry model with around 300+hp it would be fun. Do your basic turbo mods and you are looking at more WHP than the current 3.7 makes with bolt ons.

Actually, if you take note of what GM and Ford have done, they've actually been struggling more to build cars like the Japanese and Germans rather than the opposite.

Muscle? No problem. Modern, reasonably fuel efficient engines bolted to reliable cars with nice fit and finish, wrapped in a body that doesn't look like a car from 60 years ago and can actually turn and brake? That's been the US car companies' big battles -- most noticeably in the latest gen Mustang and Camaro.

V8's remain rare, mainly luxury/top of the line options for every other nation who has worked primarily more on making the most out of smaller, high output engines. The rest (to varying degrees) they already had sorted out 30 years ago.

Final thought: Lets say they go with the smaller option. Imagine a < 3000 lb 325 hp/250 tq turbo 4 -- something in that ball park is do-able using the Mercedes parts bin, I believe (which is quite possibly where a turbo motor would be sourced). Even at the same relative price-point as the Z34, it would eat the 86/MX-5 for lunch, and easily match or out-handle them too (just like now...), but be much more nimble feeling than the current gen, get better mpg and have lots of room to grow.

Screw the NA V8 and throw in a TT V8 and price it at $60K....

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The best thing Nissan can do is to retire the Z nameplate instead of continuing to tarnish its legacy. It's a low volume car that Nissan will always put behind the GTR. Instead of taking it down a class and introducing a half *** Z35, just retire it gratefully.

Blasphemous!! Lol. It's a heritage car!! Short of an apocalypse they'll always be a Z. I think. Though a hiatus might be coming. Like Z32 to 33.

They need to retire the next gen Z, with them putting a TT V6 in it of course.... :tiphat:

They should revive the Silvia and drop the turbo 4 banger in that imo

Retire it so i can have the most beautiful and fastest nismo from the factory.

If the next Z has a V8 I will eat my left nut

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