Some people like cars that scare them to death. :D

Yeap, you left one part off. When it doesn't scare them anymore, time for more power. Why do you think guys start at 500hp, then 600hp, then 800hp, the 1000hp. To me, my car is slow as a snail. Looks great, but slowwww. It's all about what you are use to.

I used to rebuild my bike every winter.First ride in spring the thing had so much horespower that it would scare you to death.By late fall I was thinking of ways to get a little more Horespower.The same thing with cars.If my Z is not a handful to drive I'm not interested.First thing I did with the Z was put twin turbos on it.

Old Z is Classic
 

One more comment about the new Z.I will have to see what it looks like before I judge.The reason I bought a 370Z was the style.I feel the body is a classic and will be sought after years from now.You can add suspension,brakes and Horespower.Have the Classic 370Z look and still be competitive with more modern cars.

Wrong info. A Camaro weighs roughly 200lbs more than a nismo. That includes having the newest tech and safety features. A stang is about 400lbs heavier. Once the new z comes out they will be very hard pressed to make it any lighter due to the safety standard that will be necessary at that time. So while 475 hp in a 3400lbs car would be good, it would be no means make it stand out. And one can only imagine where other cars will be by 2021. The idea is the create a car that will he fresh and stay fresh for at least a few years.

As for the ZL1, you can get one at 62k pre tax if you shop around. And why bring up insurance? If you can buy a 60k car I imagine car insurance, gas, tires, etc are all something you can afford to go with it. That being said, the ZL1 is by far the best bang for the buck under 75k.

Any decent sports car will be dangerous on cold tired or rain. Anyone who doesn't take caution in those scenarios is asking for problems. My 370z and 370z nismo didn't like either very much. Obviously with more power comes more caution.

But I'll agree with you. 475hp is more than enough to have fun in a decent weight car. The problem becomes when a company fails to make a car competitive and then the car ends up scraped or like the current Z, forgotten. Either drop the performance, weight, price of the Z to compete in a different segment or step up and compete with the big boys. Don't try to do in between.

Also sometimes it comes down to performance per dollar. For example, I was set to buy a new grand sport, but why pay 68-70k for one when I can get a better performance car for cheaper in a ZL1. But when I went in to buy the ZL1 I opted for a left over 17 Z06 at discount. Do I need or even want 650hp? No, not really. But I bought because my other option would be to spend the same money for a lower performing car. That's what I don't want to happen to the next gen Z. They need to position the car to be the bang for the buck in its segment.

I have way more money into the 370Z than I should.I liked the style.If performance and handling where my only reason for buying car.I would buy ZL1 Camaro or Z06,ZR1 Corvette.All better bang for buck.I agree Nissan should make a choice.The need to decide if the want to run with the companies that are building great handling high horespower cars.If not they should drop price and compete with the other segment of sports market.
I would like to see Nissan surprise us and roll out a 650Hp car.
Also I have driven a Tesla p100.Fastest accelerating car I have evere driven.
This is the future and price will come down.All companies will be into this.
I just hope in 10 years my modified Z is not blown away by soccer Mom in electric SUV that does sub 3 0 to 60.
Wish Nissan the best in successor to 370Z.

A Z06 Corvette. Yeah, I could have gotten one of those for $114,000. A special one like the ZR1 was going to be $145,000. So, I'll just stick with my current special Nismo and install twin turbos with a built motor. I couldn't even get my hands on a ZR1, so it was off the list quick. GTR, forget it. Wrong crowd and totally wrong following. Whatever, I'll just do my own thing like I have always done. If folks like it, great. If not, no big tado to me. Would I own a Cowmaro. Heck no, they are on every street corner like the Rustangs now.

A lot of good points tonight.
ZR1 no(not priced against 370Z but world beater for price) but used Z06 at good prices.Nissan has GTR at high price.
The point I was trying to make that these USA cars are well priced for performance if that is all you are looking at.Can compete against anything in world.
Notice I did not mention Mustangs.
Nissan needs to decide where they want to go with Z.
Again I like the look of the 370Z.I support the 370Z not a hater.
I have owned multiple sports cars and I'm trying to look at this objectively.
The 370Z is not a common car.(common car insert Mustang)I have 31k into my motor and tranny.Would be nice to have factory car that I did not have to modify so heavely.

Should be working
 

All of the comments you get from me tonight.This what happens when I come home early from working on Z.I should be at shop doing body work on the 370Z.

Almost every company makes cast iron blocks capable of 1000hp, you just don't here people flying off at the mouth every 20 seconds about it :rolleyes:.

Reliability is in the hands of the owner and tuner. I can make a normal engine with low power unreliable real quick with the wrong tune and fuel.

They don't want to go anywhere with the Z. They rather make Versa's with Star wars paint themes instead of making a new competitive Z.

Speaking of competitive Z's...

Have you guys seen the latest work Chris Forsberg has been doing with his Formula D competition car.

The VC-Turbo technology is already production ready for the 2019 Altima...
I think the VC-Turbo will be a differentiator for the next gen Z's performance on the track when coupled with AWD and direct injection. Area under the power curve makes a huge difference compared to peak power.

https://www.nissanusa.com/cars/2019-altima/

https://www.nissanusa.com/cars/2019-...power-icon.png https://www.nissanusa.com/cars/2019-...s/awd-icon.png

Grain of salt speculation and rendering... NOPE. I doubt the car will look like this.
https://www.motor1.com/news/242435/n...ssor-rendered/

Nice Scion TC on steroids Nissan :bowrofl::bowrofl:

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Seriously dude.... Looks like the Supra is gonna be the go to JDM. Looks like the IDX as well.

I took thievery of adding to your pic.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...12d23ebd1d.jpg

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:iagree: bro! I think the same... the Supra is the way to go for now.... I hope Nissan make something better than that :shakes head:

hahahhaha dont worry bro! :bowrofl:

But you are right! the IDX looks like that damn concept too :facepalm:

That thing better start at $25,000.
DID they HAVE to go with the FLOATING roof??? Again!!!
It better be as light as a FRS with 300+hp

GM goes to the forums for their sports cars.

Porsche goes

Ford goes

Mercedes goes...

Damn even HYUNDAI goes the forums!!!

Where TF is NISSAN in our forum???

Oh that's right... the customer base doesn't matter!!
People will always buy Nissans so why care what we think?

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All they hadda do was...

Lighten the chassis with higher tensile steel and lighter materials.

Stretch out the wheelbase to 102.9"

Design the trunk to 9 cu ft.

Ride height 51" Nismo 50"


Bubble out the fender flavors in the front.
Box them out in the back with a hint of round.

Get that aerial coke bottle look.

Modernize the interior.

Evolve the current Nismo bumper to be the standard Z bumper.

Redesign a whole new Nismo bumper.

Embolden the side glass styling.

Take the q60 engine n work on it to be loud.

DCT

And you're done. New Z.

Oh, new head and tailights

Watch the Z come with a CVT. :koolaidwall:

Hideous. Thank god it’s just a magazine artist rendering.

Nissan '400Z' Is Reportedly Happening With a 475-HP Nismo Version - The Drive
Reported:
Nissan and Mercedes formed alliance to build next Z35, and will be using/sharing same platform as Q60 (V6 3.0 TT) .
Nismo will be 475hp all wheel drive.

So they copy and pasted the same article from last year saying the exact same thing.

I was just with Nissan reps and not a peep about a Z only pushing infiniti super hard.

I’ll believe it when I see it. They’ve been crying wolf for 2-3 years now on a new Z.

Nothing new there. Same old bs :shakes head:

:yawn:

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:iagree::iagree: This thread is getting old!!! :facepalm:

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I read this same article last year. :shakes head:

They had a 2019 Z at ZDayZ. No changes. New color, different shade of blue. Some different stitching inside. :shakes head:

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Nissan is pulling all the stops out now that we're nearing 10 years on the model. Some stripes for the Heritage Edition and now different stitching this year! What a game changer!

:wtf2:

I'm reporting every post in this thread as off topic since there is no Z35 :twocents:

I'm just checking in to confirm there's no new info.

Wow, guess I missed that article. thought the article is new.

New article. Old, tired, unfounded, useless content.

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Nissan could just at least drop a VR30DTT in the Nismo model and make a couple visual changes and at least that would be some progress....

I know its old blah blah but I like the looks of my car but would just want a TT without having to spend 15k out of pocket and have no warranty.

I was thinking the next Supra TT would be my next car but NO manual model will be offered in the States so thats out for me.

so a DCT is the deterrent here on a new supra?

i think the 6MT is even more dead than the Z :roflpuke2: