Un-Moded Z took 6qts of Oil....

Gawl128 · 02-15-2013, 08:05 PM

So I just finished my oil change today. Put the 5qts in ran it - added about another 1/8 ... checked the dipstick and noticed I was still not really full...
I also checked for leaks of any kind - non were found.

Took it to a local Nissan shop, showed them and said: "Yea, your low - you need to add more".

I told him I had already given it more then 5qts...

He responded that it will take a little more of the last qt. He even went so far to say that we (Nissan) give 5quarts as a pretty close guide, but you have to trust what the car is saying - Your dip stick shows your low.

I got home gave it alittle more - still a good bit away from being "High" on the dip stick..... I would say after close to 6qts - I am 75% toward the "H" (for high) on the dipstick.

I have basically put 6qts of oil in this car, and after everything I have read about it only taking (at most) 5 1/8 qts - really freaked out.

Its un-moded. As in no oil pan spacer, and running the stock Nismo Oil Filter... Unless the Nismo oil filter holds more oil... Which as its the same size of stock - I don't see how that is the case.

What are your thoughts?

UPDATE:

Basically, I've decided to go pick up on "Oil Extractor" - a syhon for oil and lubricants.

Pull the extra .8 quarts out of the dipstick tube and call it a day on this one.

Sucks that I have to go buy this thing, but who knows - I hear it can come in handy when you are changing your other fluids.

Cmike2780 · 02-15-2013, 08:36 PM

Trust the dipstick and monitor the oil level. Make sure you're on level ground and let the car cool down a bit. If it's consuming oil, you'll need to have the dealer run the test. A few early 370z's had issues and needed the short block replaced. It doesn't seem like it's consuming oil though.

Gawl128 · 02-15-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Trust the dipstick and monitor the oil level. Make sure you're on level ground and let the car cool down a bit. If it's consuming oil, you'll need to have the dealer run the test. A few early 370z's had issues and needed the short block replaced. It doesn't seem like it's consuming oil though.

No. I can easily say Oil consunmption isn't my problem here. The driveway was uneven - really feel like an idiot for not taking that into account. On level surface the dipstick reads just about "H".... Should I get back under this car and drain "some"...

Just started the car and it smells a little strong (the exhaust) - maybe like its burning oil.... I just pulled it up the driveway. No smoke or anuthing, but it smelt "rich".

I feel like an idiot.

Gawl128 · 02-15-2013, 08:38 PM

Checking again - after the car has had time to sit.... the oil is measuring up to and on (a pinch past) "H".... Not feeling good.

Jordo! · 02-15-2013, 08:46 PM

Take note of fluctuations in oil level over time -- there is a TSB, and some of these VQ's, for reasons that remain unclear, glug oil to the point where the short block needs to be replaced (although you get a long block anyway, I believe).

Gawl128 · 02-15-2013, 09:19 PM

Doing the math - the car is rated to take 5 1/8 qts.

I gave it 6 qts ... mainly because I didn't acount for the uneven driveway, but mostly because the Nissan tech.

Anyways, my car is now over by .875 qts....

Should I drain some oil?

I think I may just do it, but honestly not sure the best way how.

cheshirecat · 02-18-2013, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Take note of fluctuations in oil level over time -- there is a TSB, and some of these VQ's, for reasons that remain unclear, glug oil to the point where the short block needs to be replaced (although you get a long block anyway, I believe).

Nissan usually only replaces the short block.

Dwight Frye · 02-22-2013, 05:20 PM

My oil change regimen involves pulling the plug and filter and letting it drain overnight. I use an oversize Mobil 1 # 110 oil filter. I pour some oil into the filter and swish it around to soak into the filter element and then fill the filter about 1/2 way before carefully screwing it back against the flange.
I then add 5 quarts plus another 1/4 from the bottle that I prefilled the filter with. After start up and checking the oil level later that day, my oil level on the dipstick always is exactly on the the top dot. So I can tell you even if you use a slightly oversize filter, 5 1/2 qts is the max that you will ever need with a stock engine, pan and no add on cooler.

KiwiNismo · 03-02-2013, 12:33 PM

When I change the oil in my 2012 nismo I start with replacing the filter, I also add a little bit of new oil to the new filter to soak the filter elements so when I start the car the oil start flowing quicker. After filter I drain and refill engine. I buy the 5 quart jugs from wal mart and that usually fills it up to the dot if not close enough, I'd rather be just under than over.

TreeSemdyZee · 02-15-2013, 09:30 PM

Something to take into consideration for oil consumption in this case. If you overfill, you're more than likely going to start using oil. If you see this happening, the only cure is to completely drain the engine and refill properly. When you overfill, then oil gets frothed up in the camshafts and starts using oil.

I say this so that you won't automatically think you have an consumption issue if it starts using oil.

Gawl128 · 02-15-2013, 09:31 PM

So what do you guys think though? Did I over fill with oil by adding (almost) and extra qrt???

Should I drain some off?

TreeSemdyZee · 02-15-2013, 09:34 PM

Probably wouldn't hurt to drain a little as long as you haven't driven a lot.

Gawl128 · 02-15-2013, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Probably wouldn't hurt to drain a little as long as you haven't driven a lot.

I maybe drone 20 miles today after I changed it.

I going to see what the best way to maybe take 1/2qrt out... This **** is freaking me out.

TreeSemdyZee · 02-15-2013, 10:08 PM

No need to freak. It's not a huge deal. As far as draining, just loosen the drain plug without taking it out. You'll get it all over you hand, but it's the easiest thing to do. By just loosening, it's easy to quickly tighten it back up.

Gawl128 · 02-15-2013, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

No need to freak. It's not a huge deal. As far as draining, just loosen the drain plug without taking it out. You'll get it all over you hand, but it's the easiest thing to do. By just loosening, it's easy to quickly tighten it back up.

Will I need to replace the Copper Crusher?

02-15-2013, 08:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gawl128 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 191 Drives: 2011 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 730	6qts... TO MUCH OIL!?! So I just finished my oil change today. Put the 5qts in ran it - added about another 1/8 ... checked the dipstick and noticed I was still not really full... I also checked for leaks of any kind - non were found. Took it to a local Nissan shop, showed them and said: "Yea, your low - you need to add more". I told him I had already given it more then 5qts... He responded that it will take a little more of the last qt. He even went so far to say that we (Nissan) give 5quarts as a pretty close guide, but you have to trust what the car is saying - Your dip stick shows your low. I got home gave it alittle more - still a good bit away from being "High" on the dip stick..... I would say after close to 6qts - I am 75% toward the "H" (for high) on the dipstick. I have basically put 6qts of oil in this car, and after everything I have read about it only taking (at most) 5 1/8 qts - really freaked out. Its un-moded. As in no oil pan spacer, and running the stock Nismo Oil Filter... Unless the Nismo oil filter holds more oil... Which as its the same size of stock - I don't see how that is the case. What are your thoughts? UPDATE: Basically, I've decided to go pick up on "Oil Extractor" - a syhon for oil and lubricants. Pull the extra .8 quarts out of the dipstick tube and call it a day on this one. Sucks that I have to go buy this thing, but who knows - I hear it can come in handy when you are changing your other fluids. __________________ Gawl's Journal - 2011 370Z Nismo #475 Last edited by Gawl128; 02-16-2013 at 02:03 AM. Reason: more info added

02-15-2013, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Trust the dipstick and monitor the oil level. Make sure you're on level ground and let the car cool down a bit. If it's consuming oil, you'll need to have the dealer run the test. A few early 370z's had issues and needed the short block replaced. It doesn't seem like it's consuming oil though. shadoquad likes this. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

02-15-2013, 08:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gawl128 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 191 Drives: 2011 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 730	Checking again - after the car has had time to sit.... the oil is measuring up to and on (a pinch past) "H".... Not feeling good. __________________ Gawl's Journal - 2011 370Z Nismo #475 Last edited by Gawl128; 02-15-2013 at 08:58 PM.

02-15-2013, 08:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Take note of fluctuations in oil level over time -- there is a TSB, and some of these VQ's, for reasons that remain unclear, glug oil to the point where the short block needs to be replaced (although you get a long block anyway, I believe). __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

02-15-2013, 09:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gawl128 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 191 Drives: 2011 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 730	Doing the math - the car is rated to take 5 1/8 qts. I gave it 6 qts ... mainly because I didn't acount for the uneven driveway, but mostly because the Nissan tech. Anyways, my car is now over by .875 qts.... Should I drain some oil? I think I may just do it, but honestly not sure the best way how. __________________ Gawl's Journal - 2011 370Z Nismo #475 Last edited by Gawl128; 02-15-2013 at 09:21 PM.

02-22-2013, 05:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 16	My oil change regimen involves pulling the plug and filter and letting it drain overnight. I use an oversize Mobil 1 # 110 oil filter. I pour some oil into the filter and swish it around to soak into the filter element and then fill the filter about 1/2 way before carefully screwing it back against the flange. I then add 5 quarts plus another 1/4 from the bottle that I prefilled the filter with. After start up and checking the oil level later that day, my oil level on the dipstick always is exactly on the the top dot. So I can tell you even if you use a slightly oversize filter, 5 1/2 qts is the max that you will ever need with a stock engine, pan and no add on cooler. Initial Z and DEpointfive0 like this.

03-02-2013, 12:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
KiwiNismo Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: CA Posts: 22 Drives: 2012 Nismo cruiser. Rep Power: 13	When I change the oil in my 2012 nismo I start with replacing the filter, I also add a little bit of new oil to the new filter to soak the filter elements so when I start the car the oil start flowing quicker. After filter I drain and refill engine. I buy the 5 quart jugs from wal mart and that usually fills it up to the dot if not close enough, I'd rather be just under than over.

02-15-2013, 09:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,886 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	Something to take into consideration for oil consumption in this case. If you overfill, you're more than likely going to start using oil. If you see this happening, the only cure is to completely drain the engine and refill properly. When you overfill, then oil gets frothed up in the camshafts and starts using oil. I say this so that you won't automatically think you have an consumption issue if it starts using oil. __________________ Borla S-Type \| Motordyne \| Z1 (lots) \| South Bend \| K&N \| Nismo/Nismo S-Tune \| Eibach \| Aerojacket \| Fujimara \| Spl \| ZSpeed Performance \| Kenwood-Infinity-Sound Ordnance \| Whiteline \| Ecutek \| Hotchkis \| Clazzio \| VQ Vortex \|Morimoto XB \|Dynosty Tune 329.64hp 265.73 ft/lb

02-15-2013, 09:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Gawl128 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 191 Drives: 2011 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 730	So what do you guys think though? Did I over fill with oil by adding (almost) and extra qrt??? Should I drain some off? __________________ Gawl's Journal - 2011 370Z Nismo #475

02-15-2013, 09:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,886 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	Probably wouldn't hurt to drain a little as long as you haven't driven a lot. __________________ Borla S-Type \| Motordyne \| Z1 (lots) \| South Bend \| K&N \| Nismo/Nismo S-Tune \| Eibach \| Aerojacket \| Fujimara \| Spl \| ZSpeed Performance \| Kenwood-Infinity-Sound Ordnance \| Whiteline \| Ecutek \| Hotchkis \| Clazzio \| VQ Vortex \|Morimoto XB \|Dynosty Tune 329.64hp 265.73 ft/lb

02-15-2013, 10:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,886 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	No need to freak. It's not a huge deal. As far as draining, just loosen the drain plug without taking it out. You'll get it all over you hand, but it's the easiest thing to do. By just loosening, it's easy to quickly tighten it back up. TerribleONE and shadoquad like this. __________________ Borla S-Type \| Motordyne \| Z1 (lots) \| South Bend \| K&N \| Nismo/Nismo S-Tune \| Eibach \| Aerojacket \| Fujimara \| Spl \| ZSpeed Performance \| Kenwood-Infinity-Sound Ordnance \| Whiteline \| Ecutek \| Hotchkis \| Clazzio \| VQ Vortex \|Morimoto XB \|Dynosty Tune 329.64hp 265.73 ft/lb

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