TOP Tearing issue

Sscottfitz · 06-17-2010, 09:16 PM

Just some observations from another ZR owner.....

- Pretty close inspection of my top shows nothing pushing from the inside support structure that would make THAT kind of a tear in the roof -- almost appears that some padding has either failed or wasn't installed?

- At least on my ZR, there is no access to the frame to add any additional padding as there is an additional layer of internal material that would prohibits/deters access to the rag top support frame

- Spending as much as I did for this car (WHICH OBTW I LOVE) I wouldn't even consider trying to fix it myself -- I would demand NISSAN fix it which sounds like ZU LAter did AND Nissan is in the process of making good.

My $.02......

Steve

Z_U_later · 06-23-2010, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by susu

Can U post a photo with a wider angled view to show exactly which part of the roof is in that pic. So far my ZR is new but if I can identify which support system is causing this then I'll put some cushion pads on it!

Here are some wide angle shots. I hope that helps

Z_U_later · 06-23-2010, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WShade

Guaranteed hole is going to be there in no time.

You are right it has gotten worse in the past few weeks.

Z_U_later · 06-23-2010, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan

How long have you had your roadster? I did noticed some indentations on both sides of the cloth roof but I have had the car for just a little under 3 weeks now. Will pay closer attention as time goes on, thanks for the head up.

I got my roadster in December so it is only 7 months old. The indentions are creases caused when the top folds down and if you keep the top down long enough the creases are more pronounce.

Z_U_later · 06-23-2010, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee123

This would really help. I looked at the pictures yesterday and am not quite sure where the bad spot is. Did the dealer give you any idea if they had heard of others with this problem?

No the CSR said that this was the first time she had seen this. The story gets better though, I saw in on a Sat. and she said that she would order me a new top and it would be in on Thur. I called on Thur. and the CSR said that the top was on backorder and that since it was not a safety issue, it was low priority. That was last week I'll call again this Thur. to remind them but I'm sure by the time they get the new top in the hole will be much bigger.

susu · 06-23-2010, 03:30 PM

Thanks Z U for posting those new pics. Odd that they occur at that particular spot . I had guess it had occured further up near the obvious protruberances> I hope it is not an inherent design flaw of this roadster top. I would push the CSR saying that it is a vital piece of protection preventing water damage to the head liner or worse into the interior of the car.
I did read somewhere that the top mechanism of this 370ZR was designed and ?produced by Magna which is a well known Canadian firm so I am surprised at this and obviously disappointed. I will keep a close eye on my roadster top for sure.

Lee123 · 06-24-2010, 11:38 AM

Thanks for posting the new pictures. Now I'll have a much better idea what to look for on mine the next time I put it up.

vifferman · 06-24-2010, 06:10 PM

My roadster is just three weeks old now, and I can already see signs of this issue (nothing really serious yet, but noticable signs of Z_U_Later's described problem (indentations on both sides, and some discoloration/wear on the driver's side (where the fabric fits a bit more tightly against the offending wire assembly).

I'm more than a little concerned about the image of the dealer replacing my new ZR's top. Anxious to hear about Z_U_Later's experience with his top replacement, as I am from any other forum member who might shed light on this problem.

How did it go Z_U? And, what did they have to say about the origin of this problem, et al?

Z_U_later · 06-28-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by vifferman

My roadster is just three weeks old now, and I can already see signs of this issue (nothing really serious yet, but noticable signs of Z_U_Later's described problem (indentations on both sides, and some discoloration/wear on the driver's side (where the fabric fits a bit more tightly against the offending wire assembly).

I'm more than a little concerned about the image of the dealer replacing my new ZR's top. Anxious to hear about Z_U_Later's experience with his top replacement, as I am from any other forum member who might shed light on this problem.

How did it go Z_U? And, what did they have to say about the origin of this problem, et al?

They didn't say what the exact cause was but I did notice that the bulge of wires were no longer visible. I suspect that they move it to avoid any further damage. But here is an up date on the repair of my top. I called in last Friday to get a better ETA on when the top would be in and the CSR informed me that the part would not be in till the 25th of July but thats when it comes into the dealership. I guessing I may not get a new top till August, all the while the whole on the driver side is getting bigger and the one on the passenger side is getting worse.

Kirkster · 07-11-2010, 08:47 PM

I seem to be seeing this same issue on my Roadster. Only had it for 3 weeks.

K

Zaggeron · 07-11-2010, 09:54 PM

Had my roadster since the end of December. I've noticed some discoloration in the same area on my roadster. Definitely noticeable on the driver's side. Not actual tearing, but the fabric is definitely a bit more stressed that the rest of the top. I thought it was a stain, but now I'll keep a closer eye on it.

NewYorkJon34 · 07-12-2010, 01:19 AM

Another reason why I'd never buy a convertible

Kirkster · 07-12-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Another reason why I'd never buy a convertible

How is that hatch opening for ya??? Having to press the button twice yet??? Don't worry you will...

The first year foibles. I am sure that Nissan will fix things They certainly took care of all my issues with my 03 350Z Track Edition. (except that they never did get the hatch working right with the 350Z either)

NewYorkJon34 · 07-12-2010, 07:39 PM

My hatch has been fine so far, we'll see if Nissan will even recognize the problem first. And about the stuck hatch issue, Nissan has not said anything about it which is why most dealers won't even fix it without some $$. Lucky some of our smarter members figured out that switching the springs to a different part # fixes the problem 100%.

Trips · 07-12-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

My hatch has been fine so far, we'll see if Nissan will even recognize the problem first. And about the stuck hatch issue, Nissan has not said anything about it which is why most dealers won't even fix it without some $$. Lucky some of our smarter members figured out that switching the springs to a different part # fixes the problem 100%.

j/k

back on topic.

06-17-2010, 09:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sscottfitz Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 859 Drives: 10 ZR Blk-o-PW Rep Power: 16	Just some observations from another ZR owner..... - Pretty close inspection of my top shows nothing pushing from the inside support structure that would make THAT kind of a tear in the roof -- almost appears that some padding has either failed or wasn't installed? - At least on my ZR, there is no access to the frame to add any additional padding as there is an additional layer of internal material that would prohibits/deters access to the rag top support frame - Spending as much as I did for this car (WHICH OBTW I LOVE) I wouldn't even consider trying to fix it myself -- I would demand NISSAN fix it which sounds like ZU LAter did AND Nissan is in the process of making good. My $.02...... Steve __________________ 2010 Z Roadster A.S.S. (All Stock Stuff)

06-24-2010, 06:10 PM	#23 (permalink)
vifferman Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 62 Drives: '04 TSX, '10 370ZR Rep Power: 16	Top tearing issue My roadster is just three weeks old now, and I can already see signs of this issue (nothing really serious yet, but noticable signs of Z_U_Later's described problem (indentations on both sides, and some discoloration/wear on the driver's side (where the fabric fits a bit more tightly against the offending wire assembly). I'm more than a little concerned about the image of the dealer replacing my new ZR's top. Anxious to hear about Z_U_Later's experience with his top replacement, as I am from any other forum member who might shed light on this problem. How did it go Z_U? And, what did they have to say about the origin of this problem, et al?

07-11-2010, 08:47 PM	#25 (permalink)
Kirkster A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of MD Posts: 1,792 Drives: Roadster of DOOM Rep Power: 19	I seem to be seeing this same issue on my Roadster. Only had it for 3 weeks. K __________________ Powertrain Warranty voided on 5/14/2011 Mod List:GTM Supercharger,SmartTop module, Oil Cooler, GT-R Start button, Nismo Exhaust, BC Racing ER Coilovers, Backup Camara For eastwest:

07-11-2010, 09:54 PM	#26 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	Had my roadster since the end of December. I've noticed some discoloration in the same area on my roadster. Definitely noticeable on the driver's side. Not actual tearing, but the fabric is definitely a bit more stressed that the rest of the top. I thought it was a stain, but now I'll keep a closer eye on it. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

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06-23-2010, 03:30 PM	#21 (permalink)
susu Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: canada Posts: 73 Drives: 370z roadster 6mt sp Rep Power: 16	Thanks Z U for posting those new pics. Odd that they occur at that particular spot . I had guess it had occured further up near the obvious protruberances> I hope it is not an inherent design flaw of this roadster top. I would push the CSR saying that it is a vital piece of protection preventing water damage to the head liner or worse into the interior of the car. I did read somewhere that the top mechanism of this 370ZR was designed and ?produced by Magna which is a well known Canadian firm so I am surprised at this and obviously disappointed. I will keep a close eye on my roadster top for sure.

06-24-2010, 11:38 AM	#22 (permalink)
Lee123 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 84 Drives: 2010 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 15	Thanks for posting the new pictures. Now I'll have a much better idea what to look for on mine the next time I put it up.

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07-12-2010, 07:39 PM	#29 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	My hatch has been fine so far, we'll see if Nissan will even recognize the problem first. And about the stuck hatch issue, Nissan has not said anything about it which is why most dealers won't even fix it without some $$. Lucky some of our smarter members figured out that switching the springs to a different part # fixes the problem 100%.