is the Touring package worth it?
 

I'm looking to buy a 370Z with <30k miles on it. Sports package is an absolute must, but I'm trying to determine if the Touring package is worth it. Glancing at truecar.com it seems to add about $4k to the price of the car which seems crazy for what is basically leather, upgraded stereo, and nav.

Personally, I just really want an XM capable radio, but I'm curious if anyone has opinions of the upgraded sound system in the Touring vs. the base sound system.

One other thing to take into account is resale value. Think it would hurt resale if it has an aftermarket tuner in it? I can't live on local radio, so if I buy a base + sport pkg, I'll be putting in a new head unit with XM.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

seats are 100X better looking and feeling in my opinion and the bose system sounds great to me. has plenty of power considering the level it has to be turned up to with my very lous exhaust setup lol

the nav setup is ood as well. mine could def use the update since its a 2009 but it's so nice for all the display options and everything else that comes with having it.

i'd say if the price either way is do-able for you then get the touring package as well.

Buy a base and take my touring seats off my hands! Lol

I have to agree with FP

For a DD, I'd say the Touring package is worth it. See FPenvy's comments above.

If you are looking for max performance, the Touring package will add a few pounds and zero HP, so probably not what you want.

Thanks for the comments so far, guys. Does anyone know how much the touring package is actually worth? Also, you think it would affect resale value negatively to put a new head unit in a base package?

FPenvy, yeah, the price is doable, but the options are limited. There aren't very many touring + sport + 6spd cars out there. Base + sport + 6spd is much more available. I set a fairly arbitrary budget of $25k for this purchase. I'd go above that if I thought touring was worth it. I haven't driven a touring model yet, but I thought the seats in the base model felt pretty good. (you got 324 whp with just 3 bolt ons and a tuning? wow)

One more question, what's up with Nissan holding out on 370 owners by only giving cooled seats to roadsters? I'd absolutely be buying the touring package if it had cooled seats. Down in Texas I couldn't care less about heated seats.

P.S. side note - I can't believe how many 370Z's were sold with automatic transmissions. You'd think people in that demographic would flock to the G37 and all the enthusiasts would go with the 370.

i'd honestly tell you to take the time and find one with your option list + touring. the seats are so much better in looks and comfort. bose system is just as good as most aftermarket head units.

i searched for 3 months to find mine and it was in louisiana. i flew down there with a check and drove it home to pittsburgh in one shot lol

...........so what's your issue with 7AT Z's? :stirthepot:

Crap, is yours an automatic? I'm thinking this is the most appropiate emoticon for this situation since I don't see a foot in the mouth: :wtf2:

I guess it just doesn't seem very "sporting" to not do my own shifting. I haven't looked into it, but they also used to be heavier and had more drivetrain loss. But if you are putting down 324 with just those add ons then it must be pretty efficient.

I've been looking for a couple weeks. I'm about to sell my MR2 and IS300 to consolidate them into one daily driver. Would like to replace the hole in my heart from my MR2 as soon as possible. Would really prefer another mid-engine car, but not very many platforms out there.

if the Z will be seeing miles then why not bump up to better seats. i made a 1300 mile drive as my first drive in the Z and it was one of the most comfortable i've ever had.

and yes mine is an automatic but i've made every shift in that car since i've bought it. i never have it in auto mode always in manual mode. even the downshifts coming to a stop or when driving hard for tranny braking. :tiphat:

324whp and a sub 13s 1/4 mile so the AT is very good in the 370 trust me :tup:

6MT/Touring/Sport/Nav is the way to go for sure.

tranny choice aside the sport/touring/nav is such a great set-up. i wouldnt have mine any other way.

:iagree:

To be honest, I don't know why the Z is even offered without the sports package, much less why someone would buy it.

I bought mine, 6mt/Touring/Sport without the nav. Sure nav is cool but this is my DD, easily 95% of the driving I do is in familiar territory, plus I'm looking at mounting my ipad mini in it so that solves that.

I would never buy a base model and miss out on the heated leather, aero kit, Bose system (love that auto volume adjust!), 19" Rays wheels, dual piston calipers, LSD, and Synchro rev-matching tranny. Just too much cool stuff to pass up...

Well, I'm a warm natured person and I feel like cloth breathes better. And the base seats felt good to me, but I guess I owe it to myself to at least test drive a touring to see if the seats sell me. But like I said, I'm seeing about a $4000 premium for the touring models, and although I can pay it, all I really want it for is the XM radio and the frugal angel/devil on my shoulder is making fun of me for thinking about paying that much for that one feature. If the nav system doesn't update itself and include traffic, it is dead weight to me. Would rather use google maps on my phone.

I'll take your advice, though, and take it slow. Wait for the right one to pop up at the right price. I'm just trying to figure out what that price is. Is $4k accurate or have I been mistaken?

it all depends price wise. i do know on my particular Z the sport package still is +1400 in the price and nav is +500 in the price for it being used. i'm guessing touring is about +2000 at most sincei believe the package was only 4000 option new lol i'll check my window sticker later.....its still in the glove box.

also as for the breathability of the seat you must remember the outside edges on the seats are leather. the inside of the seat back/bottom are microfiber suede/alcantara style material. just watch wearing cut-offs/tank tops when its hot weather lol that about the only way that leather will burn you down in texas :tiphat:

A lot of that stuff you listed was from the sports package, not the touring. And I generally agree about the sports options. I need that LSD and really like the rims.

I didn't realize the nav was not automatically included with the touring. I think it has been on all the touring models I've looked at online. Like you, I'm not interested in the nav system, but I'm sure they'll want to bump the price up for that feature.

What were you using to price that up? I was using truecar.com for a 2013 model with about 30k miles on it. But I just ran it again, and it looks like truecar is adding almost $1200 for the nav system. So I guess I just need to find this car one day:
+Sport
+Touring
+6MT
-Nav

nada guides. it's what my father and I use when we flip cars.

http://www.nadaguides.com

or just give me year and milage you forsee yourself gettign and i can run it all. also run it vs prices they are going for at delaer auctions as well.

Sport pack is a must, Touring imho is OVER priced.

I'm looking for a 2011+ with <30k miles. After talking with you guys, I think I'd like to snag a touring package if I'm paying less than $2000 extra because I have a feeling that an aftermarket head unit will hurt resale value and running the receiver for the XM is probably going to be a pain in the arse.

I just checked that website - it isn't quite as detailed as truecar.com - and it is telling me for a 2012 with 30k + sport + touring - nav, I should expect to pay $27,850 which I'm assuming is before TT&L.

There's a nice 2013 near me around that price. But I kind of like the front bumper on the 2012 model better... am I in the minority on that? I've heard the front bumper described as having "fangs" but I think it looks good.

NADA is what the car is worth as is in the listed conditions. we use it when buying cars to get the best price for profit reasons lol

2009-2012 with the original bumper is the way to go. i personally hate the 2013+ bumper. it's a remake of the 350 bumper which i also hated. no performance changes have been made on the Z since 2009.

i dont know your color preferences or whatever but here's a good find. 2012 - 5500 miles with you specs $27,950

on a dealer lot it could pull up to maybe just over 30k. personally i would try and get it for 25,500-26,500 for profit purposes. its a private seller so that should be easy to accomplish.

Cars for Sale: 2012 Nissan 370Z Touring in Carlsbad, CA 92009: Coupe Details - 384417792 - AutoTrader.com

Yeah, I like that one. It is within my acceptable color selections. Personally I'm a red sports car type of guy (see below) but the woman actually prefers the gunmetal gray. But I'd rather wait a month or two than fly out to CA and drive it back.

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/...ps96c600e4.jpg

Keep in mind that the Bose system really paints you into a corner for upgrading the speakers later, especially if you end up with the nav.

Yeah, I thought the same thing about the 2013... that it looked just like the 350 bumper. It doesn't look bad to me, but I really liked the facelift on the 370 when it came out in 2009. Not sure why they went backwards.

You should check out truecar. It seems to be very similar to nada, but with more detail for the options.

just showing you deals like that are out there but take time. trust me to find my color and options wasn't fun nor easy.

You are more dedicated than I am if you drove 1300 miles for yours! I'd do that for an MR2, but I'm not sure how long I'm going to keep this one. If a mid-engine car gets released in the next few years, I'm going to jump on it. Also, if we change our minds about kids then the wife will petition for me to get a 4 door:shakes head:. At the moment I'm in the clear, but that's part of the reason I don't want to invest too heavily.

I got mine with all options minus the navigation. It was pointless in my 350Z and I found it pointless in the 370Z.

An upgrade in the stereo department greatly makes up for it with a navigation system that shows real time traffic.

Ah, thanks for correcting me. I didn't really go crazy looking at all the different possible configurations since I was buying in the used market and there wasn't a wealth of them out there at the time. I just found one that was priced well and had a bunch of **** I liked on it and it happened to be a touring sport.

For me, the only benefit to a touring package would be the leather seats. As OP mentioned, sport package is mandatory. I don't really care for the bose system or navigation that comes stock.

well i flew there and drove it home lol

i guess i'm lucky. fiance' is a car person and even if/when kids come into play the Z or whatever sports car i have stays :tiphat:

3 car garage? That's the most elusive thing when living near downtown. Or would she just trade cars with you when you needed to take the kids? My wife doesn't feel comfortable driving manual on the road and I refuse to buy an automatic, so trading cars isn't really an option. Luckily, we're both on board with the empty nester lifestyle.

2 car garage and a large driveway. plus theres a massive 2 car at my pop's house that i use to work on mine its so nice with the space.

i got my Z and a witner car plus her civic which is going bye-byes soon for a suv. z def gets garage priority lol

Ha. We're in a similar boat. She's getting rid of her Accord soon for an SUV. I don't know why she wants an SUV so badly. They seem so "soccer mom" to me. I've been trying to get her into an A5 but it isn't working. She's hung up on the Acura RSX, but it'd be kind of cool if she got the FX37 so we'd have the same engine...

mine wants a audi Q7 or BMW X5.......i said audi if those are the choices lol

personally i like the cayenne turbo s......which i almost bought instead of my Z :stirthepot:

glad i picked the Z in the end.

Ah, yeah, the Q7 and X5 are nice, but are too large for her taste. Even the Q5 was too big. She actually wants to look at the new Q3.

I think you chose right:tup:. I don't mean to :stirthepot: but I think the Cayenne Turbo S is a complete waste of money. The thing costs six figured and weighs over 5k lbs. I don't see the appeal. It's a bad buy if you want a sports car because riding so high and weighing so much, it'll never be that sporty. And it would seem crazy to use it like a proper SUV, towing boats and driving through mud and brush. If I was going to spend that much and had the parking, I'd buy a Vette and some random SUV/truck. One for sport and one for hauling.

yea thats why iended up not getting one but the one i almost got instead of the Z was tuned/modded and put down 625whp lol :driving:

Geez!:eek: That's some crazy power, but I bet it still gets smoked around the track by a stock base Vette. Hell, the base Vette might even hold its own in the quarter mile with that beast. Lbs/HP is the ever critical number.

1/4 mile the AWD comes into play though. heavy/powerful car with a proper launch over a high power rwd car that has the chance of spinning and a poor launch :stirthepot:

Yup, that's why I said might. Z06 would crush it, though.

with a good driver of course lol straight line races the launch is everything :tup:

C7 Z06 is on my list under a GT-R currently lol :yum: