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StLRedrider 02-03-2009 08:03 PM

35, clean record. State farm told me it would be roughly $800.00 per year. I have to wait till i get the vin # for exact price. I have house,truck,motorcycle and soon business through them.

nogoodname 02-03-2009 08:35 PM

^^ they should make it cheaper if you got all that with them... just say "i'm considering changing companies for a better deal".....tough times these days....lol

SoCal 370Z 02-03-2009 08:51 PM

Incomplete Government Safety Ratings!
 
I finally got it insured, but not without major hoop jumping. Here's the issue that insurers' are dealing with: <a target="_NEW" href="http://www.safercar.gov/portal/site/safercar/menuitem.db847bd57e3dc1f885dfc38c35a67789/?vgnextoid=c95df2905bf54110VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCR D">Incomplete Government Safety Ratings!</a>

It will be very interesting to learn how the 370Z fares when all tests are complete.

dad 02-04-2009 07:00 PM

Insurance Score Analysis, how to raise insurance score and save on car insurance

Credit-Based Insurance Score
By Triceiver.com Editors


Many consumers never heard of ‘insurance score,’ and even if they did, they knew very little about it. This is because insurance companies have done an amazing job to keep it as secretive as possible. They rarely mention insurance scores anywhere, even though virtually every company uses it today to help determine whether you qualify for insurance coverage, and at what rate.

Also known as credit-based insurance scores, or insurance risk scores, they are calculated from your financial records collected by the three credit reporting companies. The theory is that there exists a statistical correlation between a person’s credit history and the likelihood of filing insurance claims. In another word, if you have bad credit, you are riskier in the eyes of an insurer. So it is now possible that your car insurance will go up, despite a clean driving record, zero at-fault accidents, and living in a good neighborhood.

This doesn’t seem very intuitive to many people. In fact, two thirds of consumers surveyed by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) didn’t know that bad credit could cost them more in insurance premiums.

However, insurance companies have been arguing that using an insurance score is not only fair, but justified, citing a number of studies that proved a clear correlation between credit history and insurance risks. One particular study published by EPIC in 2003 released some interesting data to support that view. One of the findings in the report is that insurance scores are among the top three risk factors in each of the six automobile coverage studied: No.1 for Personal Injury Protection and Medical Payments, No.2 for Bodily Injury and Property Damage Liabilities, and No. 3 for Comprehensive and Collision Insurance.

As requested by the FACT Act, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is also conducting studies to evaluate insurance scores. Also there have been increasing efforts from consumer advocates to demand more details from insurance companies and score developers. So the mystery about insurance scores will eventually unfold, but before that day comes, we have been able to gather most information available today, from numerous sources, and present you a detailed and non-biased analysis of insurance scores.

Who develop insurance scores?
There are currently three sources that generate insurance scores:
1. Fair Isaac, the developer of the famous FICO credit scores. They also have different names:
Equifax: InScore
Experian: the Experian/Fair Isaac Insurance Score
TransUnion: the Fair Isaac Insurance Risk Score

2. ChoiceTrust from ChoicePoint
There are also multiple scoring models, but the most popular one is ChoicePoint Attract.

3. Individual Insurance Companies
Some insurers use their proprietary methods, such as Progressive's A24 credit-scoring model and Farmers’ Fire & Auto Combined Evaluation Tool.

How can I see my insurance score
You can purchase your ChoicePoint Attract insurance score for $12.95. Some insurance companies also give you details of your score if you ask for it, especially when your premium is negatively affected by the score.

Which states allow the use of insurance scores
The Federal Fair Credit Reporting Act allows insurance companies to use credit information in their underwriting practices, but different states have separate laws to regulate its use. California, for example, doesn’t allow credit data to be used for insurance purposes. Many states still do; some limit the use of credit history only on new applications, some allow it for policy renewals as well, and some allow it to be used in setting your premium.

Let’s take Washington as an example, its Credit Scoring Law prohibits insurers from using your credit history to either cancel your existing policy or refuse to renew it. Also, insurance companies cannot deny new applications based on the following factors:
The absence of credit history
The number of credit inquires
Collection accounts identified as medical bills
The initial purchase or finance of a vehicle or house that adds a new loan to your existing credit history
The use of particular type of credit card, debit card or charge card
The total available line of credit you hold.

Credit Scores vs. Insurance Scores
Credit scores and insurance scores are both calculated based on your credit information, are both governed by FCRA, can both cost or save you thousands of dollars, but they are totally different in many ways.

A credit risk score (like FICO) is a three-digit number that represent your credit worthiness, which is used by financial institutions to determine if you qualify for a credit card, a mortgage, a car loan, at what interest rate, etc. A higher credit score means you are more likely to pay your debt on time and as scheduled, i.e. lower risk for lenders.

A credit-based insurance score is used by insurance companies to help predict whether you are more or less likely to file claims in the near future. Some insurers use the score only for new applications, but others may use it on policy renewals, as well as rate classification.

Financial data weight differently in calculating credit scores vs. insurance scores. Their importance also varies from model to model. Depending on specific models, it is also possible that one factor that helps your credit score may actually decrease your insurance score. But this is not very common.

Relatively speaking, a credit score has a more direct impact on your loan application, than an insurance score on your insurance application, which is always evaluated along with driving record, claims record, age, marital status, residence zip code, etc.


Don't know any of your scores yet, try this
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What is in an insurance score?
An insurance score takes into consideration many data contained in your credit report. Below is a breakdown of the Fair Isaac Insurance Score model which outlines the importance of each category. Note that the importance may vary slightly for different group of consumers.


Payment History (40%)
Payment information on specific accounts (credit cards, mortgage, car loans, etc.)
Delinquency and how long past due
Public records (bankruptcies, tax liens, judgments, etc.)
Collections
Number and types of accounts
Time since negative marks

Amounts Owed (30%)
Total amount owed on all accounts and on different types of accounts
Number and types of accounts with balances
Utilization rate overall and on specific accounts
Proportion of installment loan amounts still owing

Length of Credit History (15%)
Age of oldest account and average age of all accounts
Age of oldest account, by type of account
Length of credit history
Time since accounts opened, by specific type of account

New Credit (10%)
Number of recently opened accounts
Proportion of new accounts
Number of recent “hard inquiries”
Time since recent account openings and hard inquiries

Types of Credit Used (5%)
Number and types of accounts, current status, recent information

What is not in your insurance score?
Anything not in your credit report, plus
Soft inquiries (made by yourself, companies for promotion purposes, employer, etc.)
Your age, marital status and where you live (these are important factors considered by insurance companies, however)
Your employment information

How to improve my insurance score and pay a lower premium?
The following tips have proven to be very helpful in raising one’s insurance score as well as credit score, but the key is to manage credit responsibly, and you will see better scores naturally with time.

Check your credit reports periodically and fix any errors immediately
Go to annualcreditreport.com to get free reports or order them from myfico.com to constantly monitor your records from all three credit reporting companies. Start correction process as soon as possible because it takes time. If you have negative marks that still remain on your report after expiration date, dispute with the credit bureaus.

Pay your bills on time
Plain and simple, but it is the best advice you can get anywhere. If you are late, don’t wait until the next billing cycle and make the payment immediately, as the time your payment is over due is as important as a late payment itself. Also ask the lender whether they can forgive you by not reporting it to credit bureaus. If this is your first time, they might just agree.

Keep your credit utilization rate below 35%.
This applies to both single account and overall credit limit.

Don’t close old credit card accounts
It will decrease the average age of your accounts. If you have too many credit cards and need to cancel some of them for security reasons, start with the most recent ones and try to allocate the credit lines onto other cards with the same issuer.

Pay down credit card debt
This will not only save you a pile of money, but also increase your credit/insurance score as insurers view credit card debt negatively as compared to other installment loans.

Apply for new credit cards only as needed.
Even though new credit increases your credit limit, this can lower your score in the following months and will significantly damage your insurance score in some models. Opening multiple new accounts in a short time will definitely hurt your score, especially if you have relatively short credit history.

Establish credit history early
Apply for a credit card as soon as you are eligible and make payment on time. Don’t worry about initial credit limit being too low; it will increase over time. If a family member with good credit can add you as an authorized user, it will jump start your credit building process.

Rebuild credit if damaged
If your credit has been damaged by bankruptcy or charge-offs, start the rebuilding process early. Get a secured credit card is a good alternative if you don’t qualify for other regular cards.

Do your rate shopping within a few weeks
If you are applying for a mortgage and need to shop around for better rates, plan ahead and do it within 15 – 30 days. Each time you give permission to a lender to check your credit it will result a “hard pull,” which will lower your score. But scoring models are sophisticated enough to count multiple inquiries of the same type in a short period of time as just one, thus not affecting your score much. Your own inquiries don’t affect your score at all, so there is no need to worry about monitoring your credit activities.

Have mixed accounts of different types
Having a mixture of installment loans (mortgage, car loan, etc.) and credit cards will raise your score, if you manage them responsibly.

Shop around and compare quotes from several insurers
Insurance companies use different models to calculate your insurance score, and they can vary significantly. So shop around before accepting a quote.

Ask about your insurance score
If you see a sizable increase in your premium when renewing a policy, ask whether insurance score played a role. Demand to see your score. You should also ask for a recount if you have fixed certain errors in your credit reports.

semtex 02-11-2009 12:15 PM

Just got my bill. $526.60 for six months on the new Z (Nationwide). Not too bad, considering I just totaled a 350Z back in Nov.

SiXK 02-11-2009 12:29 PM

$68/month full coverage, no gap coverage (don't want it). This is with Metlife, they send me Snoopy magnets so they get my business. lol. no really they have a deal with my employer so I get a little discount and the premium is automatically withdrawn from my paycheck so I don't have to worry about paying it.

Chupacabra 02-11-2009 02:21 PM

$1200/year, 09 370z and 07 audi A4, 1,000,000 coverage and all the toys.

we go with the lizard.

tvfreakazoid 02-14-2009 10:01 PM

Insurance for the car.
 
I was wondering what you guys are paying for the insurance on your 370's. I have AAA. I kind of want to know so it gives me an idea of what I may be paying if I get a 370z. I have a good record with no points.

frost 02-14-2009 10:03 PM

Already a thread on it
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ight=insurance

Educ8r 02-15-2009 01:24 PM

or how about calling your insurance agent and asking for a quote:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 31001)
I was wondering what you guys are paying for the insurance on your 370's. I have AAA. I kind of want to know so it gives me an idea of what I may be paying if I get a 370z. I have a good record with no points.


RwIron 02-18-2009 01:49 AM

I was also curious about this... Im not even 21 yet, Im 20 and without any tickets. How much will it cost?

Greg 02-18-2009 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RwIron (Post 32127)
I was also curious about this... Im not even 21 yet, Im 20 and without any tickets. How much will it cost?

Not possible.. Too subjective... Insurance just has way too many variables for any one person. The only way to know is to get a quote..

sbkim 02-18-2009 09:29 AM

My carrier doesn't even show the 370z or a VIN off of ebay. But based on MSRP and sports coupe category, they are quoting $900 a year (this is even pleasure driving for someone over 35).

sbkim 02-18-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger (Post 29648)
$68/month full coverage, no gap coverage (don't want it). This is with Metlife, they send me Snoopy magnets so they get my business. lol. no really they have a deal with my employer so I get a little discount and the premium is automatically withdrawn from my paycheck so I don't have to worry about paying it.

I also have Met - were they able to find your VIN??

Thanks

jehamilton_98 02-18-2009 09:59 AM

$696 a year.

Thats with $1,000,000 combined single limits on Bodily Injury and Property Damage.

Uninsured Motorist 250,000/500,000
Underinsured Motorist 25,000/500,000
Collision and Comp deductible of $750

32yo married male. No tickets. No accidents.

benfiji 02-18-2009 01:41 PM

$1,680 a year for me here in Las Vegas for full coverage with Allstate. I'm 27, 815 credit score, no tickets or accidents.

Z34drifty 02-20-2009 12:15 AM

$364 a month. full coverage
4 cars 1 ticket
4 accidents.
Oh and I have AAA Enumclaw Insurance

bkunzi01 02-20-2009 09:16 AM

Just got quotes and am looking at about $118/month which isn't bad in the least considering my chevy equinox is costing me 100/month lol...the equinox will perish soon (evil laugh)

LiquidZ 02-20-2009 01:27 PM

I am not looking forward to what I will have to pay.

I have had no tickets or accidents, and I'm a good student.

Too bad that is not enough, considering I'm a 22 year old, unmarried male.

...damn insurance companies.

m4a1mustang 02-20-2009 01:32 PM

Quoted for $85/mo with USAA. 24 y/o with 1 speeding ticket in the past 2 years.

Z34drifty 02-20-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 33365)
I am not looking forward to what I will have to pay.

I have had no tickets or accidents, and I'm a good student.

Too bad that is not enough, considering I'm a 22 year old, unmarried male.

...damn insurance companies.

I know how you feel so my insurance is under my parents.

FLDY2009 02-20-2009 01:38 PM

I haven't got the car yet but my agent gave me a quote $355/6 months that's with $1000 deductible full coverage. $250 deductible isn't that much either $425/6 months. I thought it might be higher since its a sports car and I'm only insuring one other car.

LiquidZ 02-20-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z34drifty (Post 33369)
I know how you feel so my insurance is under my parents.

I should probably ask my parents if they could help me out. I'll pay the money, but I'll rely on them to get me a better rate.

Z34drifty 02-20-2009 03:27 PM

Yes that is what I did

epod86 02-22-2009 12:45 AM

You have to be careful once you leave dependent status, ie graduate and get a job. You'll learn to love that term. I'm in that particular boat right now, working hard trying to get a job after graduating mid year. Thank god insurance is already paid for (but I should check until when) and they can't take that away.

dwsq 02-22-2009 02:16 PM

Just asked the boss of the house, she stated, exact words, it was only about 500 for the year and she was suprised it was not much more. We have USAA...

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rsboland 02-23-2009 10:48 AM

I think I have most ppl on here beat. My insurance is 1,500 every six months. Haha. Young, single, male... two speeding tickets on record. Progressive wanted 2000 every six.

tvfreakazoid 02-23-2009 03:19 PM

Who are your insurance carriers?

shumby 02-23-2009 05:19 PM

Ing

BrokenVow 02-24-2009 12:18 PM

Man, I pay $270 a month for my 350z. 23 years old, single, with 2 tickets (crossing double yellow line, expired registration.) It'd be 300 if I didn't have another car for a dd. So that's about 3200 a year with AIG, or whatever they're called now. The company I was with wanted 4k a year, and most other companies wanted about 3500.

!xoible 02-24-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 8989)
since no one here owns a 370Z yet, we can only speculate.

so, i'll start with this story.

when i was deciding whether to get an 07 G35 Coupe or an 08 G37 Coupe and ended up going with the G37.
I called my insurance agent and gave the vin#, they called me back saying it would cost 900 with tax per year...so i took it.
then i asked what the insurance premium would have been if i bought a 07 G35 Coupe, she runs the numbers and it comes out to 1300 with tax per year.
I was confused by this, how is that a newer model car with more power under the hood have a lesser premium... i was totally dumb founded by this.


so, what will be the case for the new Z, will ppl have a lesser premium to pay than the 350Z ??? ...lol

i _think_ it's because of this:
1. the car has newer safety features than the older one
2. the insurance premium for the car goes up as people get into accidents. in car insurance databases they run reports on what cars cost them the most, and they raise the premium for those cars.

rsboland 02-24-2009 04:09 PM

Statefarm. They offered me the best deal BY FAR.

Z34drifty 02-25-2009 12:07 AM

AAA gave me the best out of all of them AllState was the worst I think it was 500 a month.

MarcusMIA 03-14-2009 11:33 PM

How much are you paying for insurance on your 370Z?
 
I was just wondering how much it's costing to ensure the new Z. Thank you.

m4a1mustang 03-15-2009 12:30 AM

I was quoted about $86 a month or so ago but when I was at the dealership today on their PC buying my policy the quotes had gone up... plus I guess I reduced my deductible from the last quote I did but I pay $106/mo for full coverage and $500 deductible.

I'm 23 and have one speeding ticket on my record. Insurance company is USAA.

I don't actually pay monthly, though, so it's 636 every 6 months.

arcticreaver 03-15-2009 01:13 AM

590(rounded up) / 6 months

crbn_fbr 03-15-2009 02:24 AM

550/6 months, 24 years old with AAA. The z is only 15 more than my WRX

StLRedrider 03-15-2009 10:23 AM

I think there is a thread on insurance already. it is back from feb. 25th.

alan93rsa 03-15-2009 01:12 PM

$557/year. Pays to be old.

arcticreaver 03-15-2009 01:55 PM

hehe pays to have my mom cosign the car. but i'm the main owner of the vehicle.


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