Probably getting a 370z

dtul · 09-05-2013, 03:26 AM

Hey guys! I am considering buying a 370z here in a few weeks and I had a couple questions on what I should be paying. I have decided that if I do indeed purchase a 370z that I would like to buy a 2013 or 2014 in either white or midnight blue. I want the automatic transmission and the base model, but with the sport package. I was considering getting the touring, but I would change out the stereo and from what I understand it is better to just go with the base and then add touring or racing seats later if I decide I am not happy with the base seats. Two options I would like on the car are the rear-view camera mirror and the illuminated door sills. So knowing that what do you guys think I should pay for the car? When I build my own the price comes out to $36,174, so would it be fair to try and get the car for around $34,500 or maybe even lower?

Also what are your thoughts on ordering the car? How long does it generally take for Nissan's to be built when you order one? If I decide to get midnight blue then that seems like the only route I could take. If I order a car do I negotiate the price like I would if it was on the lot, or do I just pay the premium for having the car built to my specifications. This is my first time buying my own car so I am pretty new to the whole process. Also if I order the car do I have to put my down payment down right when I order it and pay monthly like I already have the car, or do I just put a deposit down or something. Also if I find one I like before the car comes in and I end up buying that car do I get my deposit back or is it just a loss? I know there is a wonderful resource called Google for these questions, so sorry for asking them, but I figured I would ask them here too because maybe Nissan has a different process or something.

Well I may have left some things out so if I need to clarify anything please let me know and I will be happy to oblige. Thank you guys for any help you can provide in advance!

kfull · 09-05-2013, 07:23 PM

My z has those exact same options you want and I paid 34,700 for it new in march of 2012. I think msrp was like 37.1k. I don't know if that helps anything at all but just wanted to throw that out there. Also check Kelley blue book online to figure out what you want to pay.

Tigger · 09-06-2013, 10:33 PM

Hey, at least it's $3k cheaper for 2014. It's like getting the sport package for free. Stay away from the 13s for this reason alone.

And for ordering through the dealer... talk with the sales manager. Tell him exactly what you want. They'll search for it and if they don't have it they'll try to find another dealer with the same specs. If no one has it, then they'll have to order. But this is where the car buying game is slightly different. Yes, you will pay more for a car you order. If they don't have it on the lot and no one else has it, you have no options. If you want it, you'll pay. You can still work out a deal but I don't they'll drop much lower than 1k-1.5k below MSRP. That would be reaching a little. But that doesn't say it hasn't happened before. But keep a firm price in your mind that you refuse to budge from. If you can't come to an agreement, don't buy... yet. It's actually rather easy to walk away from a potential sale even if you are only a few hundred off. Key is to not make it personal. Shake hands and be on your way. Easy. But if they meet the number you were hoping for and the numbers work for you then take it.

Deposits are the easy part if you do have to order. Dealer dependent mostly. Your deposit will be counted as part of your down payment once the vehicle is delivered. Could take anywhere from 6-8 weeks or more to get a vehicle built to your specs. At least when you finally get it it'll have only a couple of miles on it, if that.

If you put $9k down on this car, depending on credit, apr and a bunch of other crap, you'll be looking at about a $600/month payment.

Anyway, hope the search goes well. But if there is one piece of advice I have to give to a new car buyer... When they sit you down and begin to think they can steam-roll you because it is your first new car and they put all these numbers together and the sales guy comes back with that piece of paper and makes some big motions with his pen and draws a line under a price or monthly payment option and says, "Sign here and we'll get the paperwork started" or "this says you'll buy this car at this price" you need to tell them politely to take a hike. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING. The ONLY documents you sign are in the FINANCE OFFICE! NOT WITH THE SALES GUY! They will often come out with a sheet of paper showing the monthly payments only and will never volunteer a total itemized price. When they do this tell them you want an itemized list of every charge and the total OTD price.

Be leery. Be on guard. Don't let them pressure you. And remember the entire time that you have two legs. You can walk whenever you want. Good luck!

Sorry or going on a long-winded rant. But I hope this info helps.

dtul · 09-07-2013, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigger

Hey, at least it's $3k cheaper for 2014. It's like getting the sport package for free. Stay away from the 13s for this reason alone.

And for ordering through the dealer... talk with the sales manager. Tell him exactly what you want. They'll search for it and if they don't have it they'll try to find another dealer with the same specs. If no one has it, then they'll have to order. But this is where the car buying game is slightly different. Yes, you will pay more for a car you order. If they don't have it on the lot and no one else has it, you have no options. If you want it, you'll pay. You can still work out a deal but I don't they'll drop much lower than 1k-1.5k below MSRP. That would be reaching a little. But that doesn't say it hasn't happened before. But keep a firm price in your mind that you refuse to budge from. If you can't come to an agreement, don't buy... yet. It's actually rather easy to walk away from a potential sale even if you are only a few hundred off. Key is to not make it personal. Shake hands and be on your way. Easy. But if they meet the number you were hoping for and the numbers work for you then take it.

Deposits are the easy part if you do have to order. Dealer dependent mostly. Your deposit will be counted as part of your down payment once the vehicle is delivered. Could take anywhere from 6-8 weeks or more to get a vehicle built to your specs. At least when you finally get it it'll have only a couple of miles on it, if that.

If you put $9k down on this car, depending on credit, apr and a bunch of other crap, you'll be looking at about a $600/month payment.

Anyway, hope the search goes well. But if there is one piece of advice I have to give to a new car buyer... When they sit you down and begin to think they can steam-roll you because it is your first new car and they put all these numbers together and the sales guy comes back with that piece of paper and makes some big motions with his pen and draws a line under a price or monthly payment option and says, "Sign here and we'll get the paperwork started" or "this says you'll buy this car at this price" you need to tell them politely to take a hike. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING. The ONLY documents you sign are in the FINANCE OFFICE! NOT WITH THE SALES GUY! They will often come out with a sheet of paper showing the monthly payments only and will never volunteer a total itemized price. When they do this tell them you want an itemized list of every charge and the total OTD price.

Be leery. Be on guard. Don't let them pressure you. And remember the entire time that you have two legs. You can walk whenever you want. Good luck!

Sorry or going on a long-winded rant. But I hope this info helps.

There was a lot of helpful info in there and I appreciate it. I am starting to lean more towards ordering the car because the more I look at pictures of the midnight blue, the more I like it. I think it would amazing with the right rims and just stock I think it is a great looking car too. The only problem is I cannot seem to find one anywhere. One question I do have is the financing aspect. If I order a car how does that work? I know I put a deposit down and then that becomes part of my down payment. But do I need to have the financing in place prior to ordering the car or do I get that all sorted out once the car is built and delivered to the dealership. I plan on getting at least three or four different quotes on loan rates and I see ordering the car as being a potential hindrance to that.

Also if I did order the car and I end up finding another one before the one I ordered comes in, do I just cancel the order and get my down-payment back or am I stuck with the car. It seems like that would be slightly unreasonable, however, I could understand them canceling the order, but the deposit not being refundable.

And one last question. If I buy a car off the lot I am planning on trying to get it through the internet sales department as I understand normally that is the quicker and generally cheaper method. Could I also order a car through the internet department or is that something that has to be done at the dealership itself.

Once again thanks for the help I really appreciate it!

jhtran13 · 09-11-2013, 04:57 PM

hey let me know what OTD price u ended up settling at for a 2014 model with those specs, i can tell u that I was offered OTD 34,500 with those specs but a 2013 model.

09-05-2013, 03:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
dtul Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 191 Drives: n/a Rep Power: 12	Probably getting a 370z Hey guys! I am considering buying a 370z here in a few weeks and I had a couple questions on what I should be paying. I have decided that if I do indeed purchase a 370z that I would like to buy a 2013 or 2014 in either white or midnight blue. I want the automatic transmission and the base model, but with the sport package. I was considering getting the touring, but I would change out the stereo and from what I understand it is better to just go with the base and then add touring or racing seats later if I decide I am not happy with the base seats. Two options I would like on the car are the rear-view camera mirror and the illuminated door sills. So knowing that what do you guys think I should pay for the car? When I build my own the price comes out to $36,174, so would it be fair to try and get the car for around $34,500 or maybe even lower? Also what are your thoughts on ordering the car? How long does it generally take for Nissan's to be built when you order one? If I decide to get midnight blue then that seems like the only route I could take. If I order a car do I negotiate the price like I would if it was on the lot, or do I just pay the premium for having the car built to my specifications. This is my first time buying my own car so I am pretty new to the whole process. Also if I order the car do I have to put my down payment down right when I order it and pay monthly like I already have the car, or do I just put a deposit down or something. Also if I find one I like before the car comes in and I end up buying that car do I get my deposit back or is it just a loss? I know there is a wonderful resource called Google for these questions, so sorry for asking them, but I figured I would ask them here too because maybe Nissan has a different process or something. Well I may have left some things out so if I need to clarify anything please let me know and I will be happy to oblige. Thank you guys for any help you can provide in advance!

09-05-2013, 07:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
kfull Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 909 Drives: A lot Rep Power: 14	My z has those exact same options you want and I paid 34,700 for it new in march of 2012. I think msrp was like 37.1k. I don't know if that helps anything at all but just wanted to throw that out there. Also check Kelley blue book online to figure out what you want to pay. __________________ 2012 GM 6MT sports package \| FI non res cf exhaust \| K&N Drop Ins \| Viper 3303 security system w/ tilt sensor \| GTR start button \| 35% rear 45% side window tint \| Michelin PSS Last edited by kfull; 09-05-2013 at 07:34 PM.

09-06-2013, 10:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tigger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NM Posts: 8,063 Drives: Awedeeeeee Rep Power: 602	Hey, at least it's $3k cheaper for 2014. It's like getting the sport package for free. Stay away from the 13s for this reason alone. And for ordering through the dealer... talk with the sales manager. Tell him exactly what you want. They'll search for it and if they don't have it they'll try to find another dealer with the same specs. If no one has it, then they'll have to order. But this is where the car buying game is slightly different. Yes, you will pay more for a car you order. If they don't have it on the lot and no one else has it, you have no options. If you want it, you'll pay. You can still work out a deal but I don't they'll drop much lower than 1k-1.5k below MSRP. That would be reaching a little. But that doesn't say it hasn't happened before. But keep a firm price in your mind that you refuse to budge from. If you can't come to an agreement, don't buy... yet. It's actually rather easy to walk away from a potential sale even if you are only a few hundred off. Key is to not make it personal. Shake hands and be on your way. Easy. But if they meet the number you were hoping for and the numbers work for you then take it. Deposits are the easy part if you do have to order. Dealer dependent mostly. Your deposit will be counted as part of your down payment once the vehicle is delivered. Could take anywhere from 6-8 weeks or more to get a vehicle built to your specs. At least when you finally get it it'll have only a couple of miles on it, if that. If you put $9k down on this car, depending on credit, apr and a bunch of other crap, you'll be looking at about a $600/month payment. Anyway, hope the search goes well. But if there is one piece of advice I have to give to a new car buyer... When they sit you down and begin to think they can steam-roll you because it is your first new car and they put all these numbers together and the sales guy comes back with that piece of paper and makes some big motions with his pen and draws a line under a price or monthly payment option and says, "Sign here and we'll get the paperwork started" or "this says you'll buy this car at this price" you need to tell them politely to take a hike. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING. The ONLY documents you sign are in the FINANCE OFFICE! NOT WITH THE SALES GUY! They will often come out with a sheet of paper showing the monthly payments only and will never volunteer a total itemized price. When they do this tell them you want an itemized list of every charge and the total OTD price. Be leery. Be on guard. Don't let them pressure you. And remember the entire time that you have two legs. You can walk whenever you want. Good luck! Sorry or going on a long-winded rant. But I hope this info helps.

09-11-2013, 04:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
jhtran13 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 57 Drives: 15' 370z/sport Rep Power: 12	hey let me know what OTD price u ended up settling at for a 2014 model with those specs, i can tell u that I was offered OTD 34,500 with those specs but a 2013 model.