2014 Zs are up online

ajc1884 · 07-29-2013, 09:47 AM

Does this pricing mean that we will see a new Z in 2015???

onzedge · 07-29-2013, 09:47 AM

What is the address or email link for Nissan Consumer Affairs?

I am writing them a letter today.

Brutal 370Z · 07-29-2013, 09:54 AM

This may very well drop the buy out value at the end of my lease. Therefore, could be a win for me

DEpointfive0 · 07-29-2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc1884

Does this pricing mean that we will see a new Z in 2015???

Um... Yeah... I think we're all expecting that. Or it was written somewhere

ElVee · 07-29-2013, 10:01 AM

Wow, this really exploded.

1. I bought a '13, and while it's annoying that I could have waited and saved money, that's how life is and how retail is. I can buy today's stuff tomorrow for less. I'm still happy with my purchase.

2. I really kinda get annoyed by people who buy a rock at price X; then three months (or one day or one weekend or one year) later they see that the rock is now discounted and selling at Y. And they get upset. And not just upset, but livid PISSED enough to demand a refund of the difference off the original contract they agreed to (a rock at X price). (No, I'm not a lawyer; but yes this falls under contract law.)

I guess I'm just not that guy. Those people annoy me, but it's not a judgemental thing where I think less of that personality; just that I don't do that.

3. I also like that the price dropped, and that was my first comment to a coworker, as it puts the base model close enough to other cars to be a thought for the consumer (Focus ST, FRS...).

DEpointfive0 · 07-29-2013, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

What is the address or email link for Nissan Consumer Affairs?

I am writing them a letter today.

So glad to see you on the correct side, lol

DEpointfive0 · 07-29-2013, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElVee

Wow, this really exploded.

1. I bought a '13, and while it's annoying that I could have waited and saved money, that's how life is and how retail is. I can buy today's stuff tomorrow for less. I'm still happy with my purchase.

2. I really kinda get annoyed by people who buy a rock at price X; then three months (or one day or one weekend or one year) later they see that the rock is now discounted and selling at Y. And they get upset. And not just upset, but livid PISSED enough to demand a refund of the difference off the original contract they agreed to (a rock at X price). (No, I'm not a lawyer; but yes this falls under contract law.)

I guess I'm just not that guy. Those people annoy me, but it's not a judgemental thing where I think less of that personality; just that I don't do that.

3. I also like that the price dropped, and that was my first comment to a coworker, as it puts the base model close enough to other cars to be a thought for the consumer (Focus ST, FRS...).

Great, can I fight for a refund on your behalf? If I (you) get a check back, you donate it to charity

enkei2k · 07-29-2013, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit

They didn't make a 14 a year ago so the rate back then doesn't matter.

I thought you were comparing MSRP pricing on a 2013 vs a 2014 Z? So you have to think what the rate was back then to what it is now when they set the price.

2013 - MSRP $33,120. When they announced the pricing back in 2013, Yen was 78/1

2014 - MSRP $29,990 Yen is now 98/1

I'm just saying why not wait and see what the 2014 pricing/option changes would be like before getting a 2013? As a consumer I would be knowing full well that a 2014 was coming since they announced a 2014 Nismo way back in March/April. Why not wait and see? If you like the changes go get a 2014, if you didn't like the changes get a 2013.

Wait...but I think you said you leased it right? I read on this forum that leasing this car is a bad idea for whatever reasons it was, I don't recall. So, maybe that's why you're so upset.

Anyway, seems like we'll all just agree to disagree here.

onzedge · 07-29-2013, 10:14 AM

The reason I am writing to Nissan is that I am a little pissed. Granted, I agreed to the price I paid for my 2013 on June 7, but someone must have known the price was going to drop and I would have waited 7 weeks in order to get a better price. A couple of hundred dollars would not really matter, but the difference is more than 2 grand (for me).

Argghhh

Infidel · 07-29-2013, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElVee

Wow, this really exploded.

1. I bought a '13, and while it's annoying that I could have waited and saved money, that's how life is and how retail is. I can buy today's stuff tomorrow for less. I'm still happy with my purchase.

2. I really kinda get annoyed by people who buy a rock at price X; then three months (or one day or one weekend or one year) later they see that the rock is now discounted and selling at Y. And they get upset. And not just upset, but livid PISSED enough to demand a refund of the difference off the original contract they agreed to (a rock at X price). (No, I'm not a lawyer; but yes this falls under contract law.)

I guess I'm just not that guy. Those people annoy me, but it's not a judgemental thing where I think less of that personality; just that I don't do that.

3. I also like that the price dropped, and that was my first comment to a coworker, as it puts the base model close enough to other cars to be a thought for the consumer (Focus ST, FRS...).

It's not a rock it's a car that cost me my hard earned money. It's rare that a car company sells a model for $3K less the following year so the price difference caught most people off guard. If most had the foresight to see this coming they would have waited, I would be willing to bet you would be on that list. It must be nice to piss away whenever you feel like it...that's how you roll, I wouldn't know the feeling.

alvitdk · 07-29-2013, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

The reason I am writing to Nissan is that I am a little pissed. Granted, I agreed to the price I paid for my 2013 on June 7, but someone must have known the price was going to drop and I would have waited 7 weeks in order to get a better price. A couple of hundred dollars would not really matter, but the difference is more than 2 grand (for me).

Argghhh

Really, you expect a manufacturer to tell everybody..."hey just wait a couple of month, we will slash the prices and you should not go out and by the car until than"??? for 7 weeks, really?

In what world of business do you guys live actually, you bought a car you like, so go out and drive it instead of trying to chase an idea, you will not get any money back nor do I think Nissan did anything wrong! And no, I don't have money laying around, but I paid what I thought the car was worth, and was fine with it for the last 3 month, so what is different now. I don't worry about resale value, if you do, than a used 3 Year old car would have been a much better choice to begin with.

ElVee · 07-29-2013, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Great, can I fight for a refund on your behalf? If I (you) get a check back, you donate it to charity

LOL! I'm fine with that.

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ElVee · 07-29-2013, 10:51 AM

So, what should Nissan do to avoid the pissed off people? I see three options.

1) Don't drop the price unless the price reflects a drop in materials or whatever.

2) Refund $3000 to everyone who has purchased a 2013 Z in the last 3 months. (Of course, what about that poor shmuck who bought it 3 months and 1 day ago?)

3) Stop selling the car for a period of time as a buffer window to a price change. Then after X time, start selling the car again for that price. (This may also be invoked by warning your customers of the price drop, which any rational customer will just not buy for a while.)

If you were a business owner faced with a similar decision, what would you do? Regardless of size, you have your own numbers to deal with and people working for you to whom you're responsible.

If you were a business owner of a public business that answers to stakeholders (investors), what would you do and/or tell your investors?

In the end, you do what's right for your business. Yes pleasing customers is what ultimately is right for the business, but it's not always that easy or clear cut.

onzedge · 07-29-2013, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvitdk

Really, you expect a manufacturer to tell everybody..."hey just wait a couple of month, we will slash the prices and you should not go out and by the car until than"??? for 7 weeks, really?

In what world of business do you guys live actually, you bought a car you like, so go out and drive it instead of trying to chase an idea, you will not get any money back nor do I think Nissan did anything wrong! And no, I don't have money laying around, but I paid what I thought the car was worth, and was fine with it for the last 3 month, so what is different now. I don't worry about resale value, if you do, than a used 3 Year old car would have been a much better choice to begin with.

Yes, I do expect that -- especially from Nissan and my dealer in particular. My 2013 is my 11th Z and my 20th Nissan I have owned. I have owned Nissans since my first Datsun 510 I bought in 1976. There is a concept of customer loyalty and treating loyal customers a bit different. I am responsible, either through my own purchases or through direct referral, for almost 250,00 dollars in sales at my current dealer alone.

As far as resale value, like your opinion, I could not care less.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutal 370Z

This may very well drop the buy out value at the end of my lease. Therefore, could be a win for me

Lol good luck. We both signed a contract saying we'd pay xx,xxx. But I hope to. I don't need a $3600 refund. But I do need a $3600 price drop on my residual or Nissan can go **** themselves.

Since everyone wants to bitch about price and **** how bout I just go to where my cousin used to be manager and they hooked me up fat and get the invoice and residual so all you little haters shut the hell up and realize we're all f'ed.

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Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	This may very well drop the buy out value at the end of my lease. Therefore, could be a win for me shadoquad likes this. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

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ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 16	Wow, this really exploded. 1. I bought a '13, and while it's annoying that I could have waited and saved money, that's how life is and how retail is. I can buy today's stuff tomorrow for less. I'm still happy with my purchase. 2. I really kinda get annoyed by people who buy a rock at price X; then three months (or one day or one weekend or one year) later they see that the rock is now discounted and selling at Y. And they get upset. And not just upset, but livid PISSED enough to demand a refund of the difference off the original contract they agreed to (a rock at X price). (No, I'm not a lawyer; but yes this falls under contract law.) I guess I'm just not that guy. Those people annoy me, but it's not a judgemental thing where I think less of that personality; just that I don't do that. 3. I also like that the price dropped, and that was my first comment to a coworker, as it puts the base model close enough to other cars to be a thought for the consumer (Focus ST, FRS...). shadoquad and alvitdk like this.

07-29-2013, 10:14 AM	#234 (permalink)
onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684736	The reason I am writing to Nissan is that I am a little pissed. Granted, I agreed to the price I paid for my 2013 on June 7, but someone must have known the price was going to drop and I would have waited 7 weeks in order to get a better price. A couple of hundred dollars would not really matter, but the difference is more than 2 grand (for me). Argghhh __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

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ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 16	So, what should Nissan do to avoid the pissed off people? I see three options. 1) Don't drop the price unless the price reflects a drop in materials or whatever. 2) Refund $3000 to everyone who has purchased a 2013 Z in the last 3 months. (Of course, what about that poor shmuck who bought it 3 months and 1 day ago?) 3) Stop selling the car for a period of time as a buffer window to a price change. Then after X time, start selling the car again for that price. (This may also be invoked by warning your customers of the price drop, which any rational customer will just not buy for a while.) If you were a business owner faced with a similar decision, what would you do? Regardless of size, you have your own numbers to deal with and people working for you to whom you're responsible. If you were a business owner of a public business that answers to stakeholders (investors), what would you do and/or tell your investors? In the end, you do what's right for your business. Yes pleasing customers is what ultimately is right for the business, but it's not always that easy or clear cut.