2014 Zs are up online

enkei2k

I like how people say they signed a contract agreeing to whatever price they paid for the 2013 and now want a refund.

I'm no lawyer, but isn't that a breach of contract?

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synolimit

ummm you dont have to pay. you can just turn the keys in and walk away. and this is what everyone with a lease will do unless nissan makes it right and drops the residual. if they dont then the owners will walk. so now a few thousand slightly used 370's will flood the used market and wont be able to sell because why would anyone buy a 13 when a 14 can be had cheaper??? in 3 years this will FORCE nissan to drop the residual or drop the used car sitting on their lots. and in that case im fine with it. ill turn it in and walk away and in a few days/weeks later when a 21k 13 cant and wont sell, ill buy it back for the 18k correct amount.

for the 13 buyers youre all screwed unless nissan makes it right. and in that case id be very very pissed off.

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enkei2k

I wasn't saying lease specifically. I never leased a car so I don't know how that works exactly. I was thinking more for financing, since you sign a contract agreeing to the price of the car + payment terms etc.

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victort

i agree. what about all the people who bought houses when the housing market was at its highest? i'm sure they'd want a refund too. not apples to apples, but it was YOUR choice to buy a 2013 at those prices that you agreed to.

synolimit

Ok first off that was the banks who got greedy and f'ed everyone in America. Not exactly the same thing! Watch "Margin Call". Not one of those ******* pricks today has been arrested for it. Second everyone in America almost f'ed them back by not paying and foreclosing which cost them millions but good old govt bailed them out. Again not the same thing here. Japan isn't America I pray to god and since this is different they should still do something about it like bailing out the people instead of them taking money.

Now where should the cut off be? I have no idea. A 13 bought in 12 I think is to long. But maybe 6 months ago I think is appropriate. It wasnt my choice to slash prices was it? If it was I'd of paid less for my car. I don't think its right that nissan knew what the 14's were gonna cost and let 13's be sold at their prices. They all roll off the assembly line at the same time, only the badge ID changes years. My car rolled off the line less than 2 months ago and was bought directly from Japan!! That's like them saying "he has car #1 and will pay $36,600 but car #291 (if 3500 or something were sold a year, that's 291 a month being built) will go for only $33,000. That's the biggest insult slap in the face they could do to a customer.

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enkei2k

This has been said many times here, but people will never understand.

A lot can happen in 2 months, let alone in a year. I don't think it's fair for you to say that Nissan 'knew' what it was going to cost. They don't. The JPY/USD probably played a big factor in it. Last year, the rate was like 80 JPY to 1 USD or something like that. Today it's close to 98 to 1.

And regards to your assembly line example. I'm certain that Nissan increased MSRP during the same model year before (Did the price of a 2012 just go up??). Same car,same model year, same assembly line. MSRP went up.

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synolimit

1. Not much has happened. $3 in last month with $2 being the average.



2. They know what the cost was, they just didn't issue the rebate fast enough and a lot of people will be hurting and mad.

3. That was an increase of $460! Haha. An increase is fine as it doesn't hurt the older models. And did you really just try and compare $460 to me when its negative $3600 now??! People will never understand!

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enkei2k

They've been making the 2013 model year Z since mid-late 2012. Like I said, the rate back then (when they introduced the 2013 model in 2012) was around 80/1 and now it's close to 98/1.

They don't change MSRP every month based on exchange rate, so your argument here doesn't really make much sense.

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synolimit

They didn't make a 14 a year ago so the rate back then doesn't matter. If a new car year is coming out, and the older year is $3600 more, a few months before the release the older cars should get a huge rebate! This basically is what they're doing! Again, they just did it to late which is BS! They didn't have to change the msrp. They just needed to say "hey, 14's will be here in less than 60 days and we don't know the price yet, wink wink, but buy this 13 with a $3600 rebate!" I'd of been happy and not in a position to not be able to buy my damn car back!

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