hermmmmmm this is my take on the whole situation, you can blame whoever you might think is at fault sure, we can all do that. But you bought the car because you wanted a Z, this thread shows the true z enthusiast from the "i like how the z looks like" peeps. For me im pretty nonchalant about it when i first saw the price i was like awwwww shoot batman but after sitting on it and thinking about it and reading these posts i mean i bought my car for 32.5 OTD with 2k miles on it and im glad it had 2k miles on it b/c i would have felt worse stalling in a car that hasnt been broken in. so going to dealerships and nego with them for a new 2014 and prob only get the car price without tax to 28.5 at best but prob 29. and then NJ taxes and fees so around 32k....not worth the animosity or anger or time to frustrate on it. honestly italy you would at best pay about 500-1000 less if you were to get the 14.

Italy you ballin already. How did you buy 6 brand new cars in 2 years as you stated earlier? Yeah i understand the lost as i also have a 2013 model. Nothing we can't do. We mainly just have bad luck and timing.

I'll forward this to Nissan for you, they need it way more than I do.

Def not balling. Balling would be I owned all of them outright. I financed them traded in others etc. current garage has the Z a 2012 G37XS and a 2013 juke

The 13 Nismo's aren't feeling the pain :P

:iagree:

especially when you've done retail like i have as a teen, some of these dumbarse customers come back to the store with their 2 month old used electronics DEMANDING to credit the difference between wat they paid vs the latest sale price the store was offering. :shakes head:

store declines, then the dumbarse calls the cops telling them the store stole money from them. :shakes head: the cop was like why the f- was i called here again? :confused:

:iagree:

Also, you can't convince me that you could talk down a base sport $5K now. You would probably be lucky to get a couple of thousand off, which is approx what I paid for my 2011 base sport. While some people are smart enough to negotiate significantly down from MSRP, I'm sure the dealers have plenty of customers that aren't so smart. I don't think Italy has enough of an argument to get $$$ back from Nissan. Those customers that paid near MSRP have a better argument, but the only complaint they can make is that dealer's are guilty of acting like dealers by trying to rip customers off :ugh2:

One of the major pros to why I bought the car was because it didn't sell.

I love having a unique car.

It never hurts to try

Interesting read. My 2011 MSRP was 33K. I paid a little over 28K. So if they had dropped it by 4K the next week, I would still be under new MSRP by 1K. And with the new lower MSRP, I wouldn't expect them to come down as far. So it's really hard to tell how much you "lost". There may be a lot less room to negotiate, kind of like everyone who walks on the lot getst the "best deal".

a car's worth is wat it's worth to you.

I just bought my '13 Z fully loaded (sport/touring/NAV) for $36,000. It has 550 miles as of today. Maybe I should trade it in for a '14 and possibly get cash back :D

Isn't that a pretty exceptional price??

Sooo when can we expect to see the 2014 arriving on dealer lots?

there are two at a dealership very close to me on lot. base for 34.5k touring vert like almost 50 k lolololololol.

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im not even sure if that base was is in sport doesnt specify on wheel size unless i missed it

and there are some that arent priced yet.

WUUUTTTT? Is that OTD?

disappointing the 3.1K doesn't apply to the NISMO having it come in right under 40K would have been nice.

I think they already are.

That difference is really nothing unless you are paying cash. Another few grand on a five year loan is like 50 bucks a month.

Basically for like 15% more money you get 65% more power (and much better performance all the way around) and a much nicer interior.

Anyway, looks like I'm not the only fellow to see that Nissan is gunning for the twins...

The Continental: A Huge Price Drop on the Z, Fisker's Plans, and an Eternal Favorite | Car and Driver Blog

Confirmed...Just got a call from my dealership this morning....my z has arrived :) going to check it out this evening after I get off work

Nice! and please post your deal if you don't mind, and also PICS!!

Italy3541 & Infidel. I have a '13 also, paid $37,000 otd for 6 mt, base w/sport and yes, to see the newer model year come out $4k lower is eye opening. But to blame Nissan is a bit overboard.

Here's the reality. Before the Japanese government decided to print more yen. The yen was trading at approximately 77 yen to the US dollar. The yen is now trading at 98 yen to the US dollar. So our US dollar buys a lot more today from Japan than it did 6 months ago, thus the price drop. Is that such a bad thing?

Nissan had to make a price drop, because all of the competing automakers in Japan will be lowering their prices as well. If Nissan doesn't lower theirs, where would that leave Nissan?

Was our timing good, on purchasing the Z? Maybe/maybe not. Because Italy, you mention constant buying and selling of your cars. If you were like me, you would have had to sell a car to buy the Z. I sold a G35 Coupe to buy the Z. If I had held the G35 till this year and sold it to buy a 14Z, I would have most likely received a lot less for it. Buyers on the borderline can buy new vs used cars now with the lower pricing, thus lowering the demand/value of our used cars. Plus my car would have been a year older and depreciated even more. So I'm okay with this as this price adjustment, as this is just how our worldwide economy works.

But if you guys feel the need to go after Nissan, have at it. You guys may just get me some bonus credits from Nissan :tiphat:

Yea I was shocked to find that deal. I thought it was too good to be true!

Nope, before TTL. Still a good deal I think :)

when I bought the z I did not trade anything in on it.. I just added it to my stable..

exactly, that's my point. you cant get what you don't ask for. basically yes I am upset about this. being that I do buy cars frequently and put a lot of time and effort into researching my purchases. working the deal down to the least amount that a dealer will do. I took me a month to get the deal that I got on my current z. whats got me mad is that with the price they have it at now I could have walked into any dealer and gotten the z for what I paid. no effort needed. ask some of the people on this forum who have met and know me. they know the ordeal I went threw when I started to look for another z. many long drives to different dealers just to come back with no z. I spent many weekends driving hundreds of miles to dealers who made promises on the phone then when I get there they tried to change the deal.. to make a long story short I cant count the hours I spent talking to driving to different dealers.

it was the same case when I bought my 2011 z. hours and hours spent to get the deal..

so the whole reason why I upset is that I was happy with my purchase. I got my z for what I wanted to pay. but the amount I wanted to pay was based off of the old price. the way I made my deal was simple. I get the z for a good price drive it till the new one comes out, then trade in for that one. depending on when they release it and what the cost of the new one is, I would sit good in my car. maybe not get any extra for my car but not have to roll anything..

now with the new pricing not only do I have the normal depreciation but I also have an additional $4000 that is lost. now we all now cars are poor investments. that's y I put so much work into getting a good deal. as I said before im not rich and to me $4000 is a lot of money. my whole gripe is that a car that I sat good in overnight I now sit crazy upside down.

that doesn't sit well with me. because I am a informed buyer, and I did my research, and I did the leg work to get a deal. I didn't just walk into a dealer and say I like this car sell it to me and walk out.

iv seen a ton of people say all this stuff about who cares its good that they lowered the price etc... the thing is MOST of the people saying that didn't just buy their z. its not their money that was lost. so of course its easy to say who cares and your a idiot for being mad etc... when its not your money who cares right???

im glad for the people who have the extra cash just sitting around that loosing $4000 overnight means nothing to them.. but im not one of those people.. I work my azz off for what I have. and even tho I trade cars all the time and seem to have a new car every few months, does not mean I am rich or don't care about money.

Again most of the people saying those things have had their cars for over a year and didn't have the price dropped right after they bought theirs. again its the whole thing of looking at things from the other persons shoes..

anyone who says it doesn't bother them if they bought a car then a few months later its $4000 cheaper doesn't bother them either has a ton of cash, or doesn't have a clue what its like to work hard to get something..
or lives at home and have their parents their to help them when the need it..


as I said before if I had the car for over a year and drove it daily put all kinds of miles on it, I wouldn't care about the price change at all.. im mad because I just bought it just a few months ago. I have 600 miles on it. it sits in my garage and I drive it when its nice out, mostly on the weekends..

I keep all my cars in prestine condition, partly because im OCD like crazy, and partly because I know that im quick to trade to something else.

if I still had my 2011 z I would not have even read this thread, because I would not have cared. again to repeat myself for the hundredth time its easy not to car if it didn't happen to you.

but this is a public forum and people are free to express themselves anyway they want. if people wanna think im nuts for wanting Nissan to do something then that's their opinion.. just like me wanting Nissan to do something is my opinion.

im not gonna get into a thread battle calling people stupid or whatever to help try to prove why I think something should be done. I voiced my opnion some people agree with me and a lot don't.. o well..

in the end im gonna push as far as I can to try to get Nissan to step up. I know that more than likely I will get no where. but that isn't gonna stop me from trying... you cant get what you don't ask for.. and a lot of companys bank on the fact the most people wont waste their time trying. they just take the loss.. im not one of those people..

also there is a couple of 2013 owners on here saying who cars about it etc... but if you check out some older threads these same people were asking what should they pay should they wait, they don't wanna pay to much and so on.. its funny how quickly people will change how they think if there are a number of people going against it..

also to the comments im not a true z car guy etc.. I have had more z cars than most people on this forum. and owned nissans while some of these people weren't even walking yet. I was tracking my nissans while they were still in highschool waiting to get their license.. I say to those people do a little research before you throw comments like that around..

I am a car guy, and have been one my whole life. I work on them for a living and paly with them for a hobby.. and being a car guy is the main reason why I buy so many cars... I see something new and im like man I gotta have it. so I get it, I do some work to it then something new comes out, and the whole process starts over... you don't have to only buy 1 brand of car and only that brand to be a car guy.. there are many great cars out there, and I plan on owning as many of them as I can. if I had a lot more money I wouldn't be trading these cars in for other I would just keep adding to the collection like Jay Leno. but sadly I don't have the funds to do that, so I get whats in my budget and enjoy it till I find something new that grabs my attention..

all that being said. the z was a dream car for me when I was a kid. iv had 4 280zx turbos and a 300zx, a 2011 370z and now a 2013 370z. and I will always love the z.. and as long as they keep making them I will always want to own one..

me being mad at Nissan for what they did to my current zs value does not change how much I like z cars. but it will make me look to different makes of cars for my next purchase. and make me not want to do business with Nissan anymore.

iv seen tons of people come and go in the car world. many my own friends.. all into them one day then a few years later life takes over they are married with kids and cars mean nothing to them.. im now in my 30's and my love for cars has not strayed one bit. so saying im not a true car guy or whatever was said is bull..

Maybe but thats 3000 bucks either way u cut it . In that case if we apply it to 14 z pricie drop, its like sayings that is insignificant.

But your right z is way more car than toyura twins.

2014 MSRP will be less! :)

2014 Nissan 370Z pricing announced, MSRP reduced by $3,000 - Autoblog

:rofl2: New to the thread, are we? :p

We've been throwing rocks at each other all day about that.

I bought a fully loaded roadster with almost 11k off sticker - so I can't complain. And the roadsters did not go down in price.

Plus - by the time you option it the way I buy...well...it's always fully loaded. And there's more room to negotiate versus a base model.

Just saying.

now there is just no better deal than getting a 3.7 v6 sports car with sport brakes and 19' wheels for the price of a low end buick:tup::tup:

We're probably going to be seeing more Z's on the road in the coming months. Dang it, here I was hoping that my Z was special :)

Gay! So a 13 with a residual of 21k 3 months ago must now be 18k. Its only fair.

well back from the dealer....bad news is the deal fell through for me and wasnt able to get myself into a new Z, but we all know life is not fair sometimes...in any case i did manage to get a close up look and test drive of the new 2014 and from the time i spent wit it i can say for sure it is the same as the 2013's and no there arent any brake ducts. on a lighter note i did manage to get myself back into the nissan family at least and walked away with an almost fully loaded versa note for a heck of a good deal so for me at least it will be another year or so of lurking until i can get things straightened out and who knows by then the next Z will be out and it will be just as good or better than the current Z, but i will not give up until i get into another Z and to all who currently own a Z, i hope you enjoy them as much as possible :)

After reading the 11 pages it looks like Minsu is the only '13 owner who doesn't mind overpaying, and anyone else who is critical doesn't own a '13 and didn't get a fisting.

I side with the '13 owners who are pissed, ESPECIALLY after Corporate refunded $3k on the remaining stock.
That means Nissan should refund $3k to those who recently bought '13s, when that cut off is, I don't know...


Guys, back it up. If I bought a $10000 Sony 4k TV, and it went on sale for $8000 28 days later, you bet your ass I'm taking it back, and saying, yeah I want the sale price, and the store WILL give you the difference, even thought you used and set up that TV.

Hell I bought a set of Michelins from Costco, 3 weeks later they were $75 off a set of 4, came back, asked if I can get the difference, at first the person said no, then I said, great, I'd like to return a set of Michelins, they carry a 30 day no questions asked return policy, that guy called the manager, and the manager didn't even question it, he's like yeah, you got screwed, we should've told you, here's $75+tax CASH!

That's customer service right there. And THAT'S the way it SHOULD be

I more hope Nissan goes, pays back what they paid the dealers or REALLY gives $3k (or whatever the price difference is) worth of service to the owners or extends the warranty

Why??? I texted you btw

I find that funny because in another thread he is all about not paying to much for a car he may not keep...:bowrofl: also he is the same guy saying

"this thread shows the true z enthusiast from the "i like how the z looks like" peeps"

what does loosing $4000 overnight have to do with being a true z enthusiast...

$4000+ TTL and interest and such, all told, even more.

Again, all I'm saying is that I believe you guys have the right to bitch, and are in the right IMO

I think you should go back and read your own posts..

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post2421166


also just because you have a z now doesn't make you a enthusiast..

I would get some facts before I would start saying people on here just like the looks. especially since it seems to me your just learning how to drive a manual.. its kinda hard to believe you are a hard core enthusiast and don't know how to drive a stick shift.