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Z_ealot 07-25-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bghoward (Post 2419234)
Did anybody else see this?



Is this a new feature on the 2014's or does the 2013 also have new brake ducting as well?

Interesting guess I'll have to check it out when I get a hold of mine...I kinda doubt it would as I recall people seeing this on the 13 and it turned out to only apply to the nismo but we shall see very soon hopefully :-)

TreeSemdyZee 07-25-2013 08:12 PM

Cracks me up that they want to charge $520 for Nismo brake pads and you can get them online for $240 (or less).

Magic Bus 07-25-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2419288)
Nissan has been dropping the price on their entire model line, including Infiniti. I think the GTR is the only one holding out lol. M56 isn't cheap either. But for the most part, Nissan went aggressive since the beginning of the year pricing their cars.

Nissan may be thinking the GTR is still a value for consumers comparing it to Porsche, Ferrari and other cars in that class. Maybe when the C7 comes out and if it cuts into their sales, they may re-price it.

The re-pricing of the yen has changed it's exchange rate by over 20%. So if they can still keep selling GTR's at the current price (not that they are really selling a lot) they will be making a decent profit on the GTR.

Fountainhead 07-25-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jburke26 (Post 2418970)
Oh well! It wouldn't of mattered to me if my Z was 38k or 43K. I was gonna what i wanted regardless. Its just money right? :ughdance:

That's so true, many men died with more money than they could ever spend, but no one ever got more time with all that money. Not one second more.

Motto? You can always get more money, but no one ever got more time.... so spend your time more wisely than your money, it's worth far more.

I'm spending money and time-driving my Z!

kfull 07-25-2013 08:25 PM

So what were the changes from '13 to '14? all i can think of are the red calipers atm.

Magic Bus 07-25-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2419290)
Im hoping to get the 13 down even lower when dealers clear out inventory for the 14'

I hope it works out for you. I'm not sure dealers will make it much cheaper than a '14 as there's a good chance they have already paid for their '13 inventory and will be in no rush to lose money.

Might be a better value to hold out for a '14 if resale value is important. But since you're swapping out for an old bumper, don't know how much of a concern it is to you. Good luck either way :tiphat:!

BeksNice 07-25-2013 08:30 PM

what is the difference between 2013 models and 2014?

ohohoh123456 07-25-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by beksnice (Post 2419346)
what is the difference between 2013 models and 2014?

$4000.00

Leuz 07-25-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BeksNice (Post 2419346)
what is the difference between 2013 models and 2014?

On the main page of the website the title says 2014 370z and then a button below "build the 2013 nissan"

Jordo! 07-25-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2418987)
Better MPG on the 4 cylinder FRS/BRZ?
(useless) back seats?

MSRP for an FR-S is still ~26k so that's like 2-3k difference between them and Z. To some that's a small difference, to others it's a world of a difference.

For one of the twins: ~$20% less money for ~65% less power and way less lux.

Maybe if one was paying cash, but another couple of grand over a 5 year car loan isn't much.

roy'sz 07-25-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419058)
I am seriously debating getting rid of my z now.. I spent weeks going back and forth to dealers playing them against each other to get the best deal I could. Now not only can you get a sport for cheaper than what I worked my azz off for but now my car has taken a huge hit on resale value....

I got my 2010 spirt for 30k out the door with the extended warranty. I got tje deal because i got it in 2011in june with 90 miles on it. It was a new car just didnt sell at the original dealership so they made a dealer swap out of my car.

peleincubus 07-25-2013 11:03 PM

So im assuming you won't be able negotiate down much if at all from msrp. From what I read they dropped all the Nissans down closer to invoice price so the models would show up in different groups of cars so they would compare more favorably.

I guess we will see.

Great news for me 4k more in mods is what I will tell my self haha.

Z_ealot 07-26-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus (Post 2419499)
So im assuming you won't be able negotiate down much if at all from msrp. From what I read they dropped all the Nissans down closer to invoice price so the models would show up in different groups of cars so they would compare more favorably.

I guess we will see.

Great news for me 4k more in mods is what I will tell my self haha.

as said before by a few other people, i think it has more to do with the exchange rate when it comes to the Z as the Z is exclusively made in japan and with how much the yen has come down it has made it alot cheaper for many manufacturers to produce goods for export there which would translate to the pretty significant price cut that we are now seeing on the 2014 Z compared to the 2013. having looked at the 2013 invoice price over at truecars i can already tell you that they are already well below the invoice on the 2013's with the way the 2014's are priced now on the order of around $2,000 below the invoice on a 2013 so it's kind of a question mark at this point as far as negotiating down to invoice price on the 2014's, but i will let everyone know when i get the invoice price from the dealer my 2014 is being shipped to :)

italy3541 07-26-2013 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2419496)
I got my 2010 spirt for 30k out the door with the extended warranty. I got tje deal because i got it in 2011in june with 90 miles on it. It was a new car just didnt sell at the original dealership so they made a dealer swap out of my car.

You got a good deal, but the sticker price was lower in 2010 than in 2013. I did a similar deal when I bought my 2011. I got my 2011 for $31000 OTD.What is upsetting me is I just bought my 2013 a few months ago. If I knew they were gonna lower the price I would have waited and got a 2014, and saved a few grand. Now all of us who got a 2013 are gonna take a big hit on resale. Being that my z is not my daily driver and just a toy I don't drive it much. I only have 600 miles on it. I was planning on waiting till the next gen z cones out then trading up to that. Now that Nissan killed the resale value of the car most people will be rolling money over if they trade out of it. I did get a good deal on my 2013. $32000 OTD. But they way I look at it is if they went to $32000 on a sticker price of $37355 then imagine the deal you can get if the same car starts out at $33000. So in the end they screwed everyone who bought a 2013.

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2419077)
The touring now costs $5k extra, then another $2k for nav... So there is a lot of fluff in a touring model. It used to cost around $5k with nav. Base +sport model still the bang for buck steal at $33k.

Which is what kills it for me... I WANT touring (for the Nav)... But $5k, THEN ANOTHER $2k for Nav?!?!?!

That means they want $1750 per seat, and $1000 for Bose, $500 for the mirror... That's a joke...

italy3541 07-26-2013 08:40 AM

I called Nissan corporate talked to a few people I'm waiting for a call back from a manager. Ill let you know what they do for me!!! If they don't do something for the people who just bought these car I will be leaving Nissan for good..

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419765)
I called Nissan corporate talked to a few people I'm waiting for a call back from a manager. Ill let you know what they do for me!!! If they don't do something for the people who just bought these car I will be leaving Nissan for good..

I doubt they'll do anything. You paid what you thought was a good price at the time. The current prices changed due mainly to the Yen weakening vs the dollar. Do you expect some kind of refund?

italy3541 07-26-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419772)
I doubt they'll do anything. You paid what you thought was a good price at the time. The current prices changed due mainly to the Yen weakening vs the dollar. Do you expect some kind of refund?

Yes I do want some type of refund. Maybe not the whole amount but something. Think if the people who bought their cars just a week ago it's kinda bulllshit. I paid what I thought was a good price for a $37000 car not a $33000 car. Iv only had my car a couple if months and only have 600 miles on it now its worth $4000 less just because they lowered the price on the new ones. Add that to normal depreciation and my car has crap value...

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 08:52 AM

Good luck with that. I'd be shocked if you get a dime from Nissan. They have no control over monetary policy in Japan.

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 08:53 AM

Chuck, you know I love you... But...
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419772)
I doubt they'll do anything. You paid what you thought was a good price at the time. The current prices changed due mainly to the Yen weakening vs the dollar. Do you expect some kind of refund?

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419778)
Yes I do want some type of refund. Maybe not the whole amount but something. Think if the people who bought their cars just a week ago it's kinda bulllshit. I paid what I thought was a good price for a $37000 car not a $33000 car. Iv only had my car a couple if months and only have 600 miles on it now its worth $4000 less just because they lowered the price on the new ones. Add that to normal depreciation and my car has crap value...

:iagree:


I really can't believe they lowered the prices here in the US. As I said before, the Americans are crazy, they'll go with pitchforks and rifles to corporate and start hell if they were just told that their car lost resale value overnight

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419781)
Good luck with that. I'd be shocked if you get a dime from Nissan. They have no control over monetary policy in Japan.

And if they pay devaluation when you get an engine replacement, I don't see why not paying devaluation now

italy3541 07-26-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419781)
Good luck with that. I'd be shocked if you get a dime from Nissan. They have no control over monetary policy in Japan.

Trust me I'm not holding my breath for the refund either. But I have to try. If they don't do something tho I will leave Nissan and go to a different brand. Iv bought 6 brand new nissans in the last 2 years I'm not gonna lose my azz on my car cause they wanna move a few more. I'd rather just take my business to someone else. They screw me out of value ill just give my business to someone else.

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 08:57 AM

This reminds me of the class action suit someone tried to start against Apple when they cut the price for the iPhone a few years back. Same argument. "I just bought mine at the old price, and the new price is cheaper". The case didn't hold up. I'm not arguing that it doesn't suck, I'm just pointing out there's very little chance of there being any kind of restitution.

italy3541 07-26-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419789)
This reminds me of the class action suit someone tried to start against Apple when they cut the price for the iPhone a few years back. Same argument. "I just bought mine at the old price, and the new price is cheaper". The case didn't hold up. I'm not arguing that it doesn't suck, I'm just pointing out there's very little chance of there being any kind of restitution.

True but big difference between a few hundred and $4000.

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419786)
Trust me I'm not holding my breath for the refund either. But I have to try. If they don't do something tho I will leave Nissan and go to a different brand. Iv bought 6 brand new nissans in the last 2 years I'm not gonna lose my azz on my car cause they wanna move a few more. I'd rather just take my business to someone else. They screw me out of value ill just give my business to someone else.

So would you sell your car in that case, or just not buy any more Nissans? Selling the car would be making matters worse, since you'd eat the depreciation, the new cut in resale value and sell it this early into the note?

It's worth asking for some kind of restitution, I just doubt they're going to do anything. Especially considering you paid less than the new MSRP.

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419793)
True but big difference between a few hundred and $4000.

Same legal principle, though.

Nissan likely looked at the decision to alienate the few who bought a 2013 and cut the price to try to get sales up, or let the Z continue to be a very poorly selling car. If I were a shareholder or in a decision making capacity at Nissan, I'd make the same call, especially considering what's been happening with the Yen.

italy3541 07-26-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419796)
So would you sell your car in that case, or just not buy any more Nissans? Selling the car would be making matters worse, since you'd eat the depreciation, the new cut in resale value and sell it this early into the note?

It's worth asking for some kind of restitution, I just doubt they're going to do anything. Especially considering you paid less than the new MSRP.

I haven't decided what I will do with my car yet if they don't do something. More than likely ill trade out of it. I sit good in it even with the added deprecation but I will not get another Nissan.

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419789)
This reminds me of the class action suit someone tried to start against Apple when they cut the price for the iPhone a few years back. Same argument. "I just bought mine at the old price, and the new price is cheaper". The case didn't hold up. I'm not arguing that it doesn't suck, I'm just pointing out there's very little chance of there being any kind of restitution.

... Case didn't hold up? Apple gave away... $200 (if memory serves me right) of store credit to every iPhone owner.

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419800)
I haven't decided what I will do with my car yet if they don't do something. More than likely ill trade out of it. I sit good in it even with the added deprecation but I will not get another Nissan.

Bravo! If I had any sort of expendable income where I could eat the depriciation on my recently purchased Nissans, I would... But I can't... ;-(

italy3541 07-26-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2419805)
Bravo! If I had any sort of expendable income where I could eat the depriciation on my recently purchased Nissans, I would... But I can't... ;-(

It would all depend on the deal I would get on whatever car I went with. I'm just so pisssed right now...

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2419802)
... Case didn't hold up? Apple gave away... $200 (if memory serves me right) of store credit to every iPhone owner.

Really? I've seen them get a case crammed up their *** several times, but not that one. I don't see it listed here- Apple Inc. litigation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing popped up on a quick Google, but you may be correct. It's also possible they settled it before it went to court.

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419806)
It would all depend on the deal I would get on whatever car I went with. I'm just so pisssed right now...

I understand your frustration, and I REALLY hope Nissan pulls through for you

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419807)
Really? I've seen them get a case crammed up their *** several times, but not that one. I don't see it listed here- Apple Inc. litigation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing popped up on a quick Google, but you may be correct. It's also possible they settled it before it went to court.

Maybe, but I remember my brother got a $150-200 gift card from them

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2419806)
It would all depend on the deal I would get on whatever car I went with. I'm just so pisssed right now...

I get that. It really sucks. I feel for the guys who are taking this in the shorts. But do you enjoy driving your car less now? It would be a shame to ditch a car you like over an issue with the manufacturer.

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2419810)
Maybe, but I remember my brother got a $150-200 gift card from them

I lied, he got back $100 when the price went down $200:
http://m.cnet.com/news/apple-to-offer-$100-store-credit-to-iphone-customers/9773207

italy3541 07-26-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419811)
I get that. It really sucks. I feel for the guys who are taking this in the shorts. But do you enjoy driving your car less now? It would be a shame to ditch a car you like over an issue with the manufacturer.

Honestly yes I don't like the car as much now. Basicly it left a bad taste in my mouth. How can u be excited about a purchase when u just found out its value got killed. If I was rich it prob wouldn't bother me. But I work my azz off for the things I have and it just ruins the fun when u loose that much that fast.

Haboob 07-26-2013 09:12 AM

Oh well, I'm not going to fret about it. I probably wouldn't be able to find a Midnight Blue one in the Western region if I waited until the '14 model year.

Was amazingly difficult in '13...

pfdaxe 07-26-2013 09:12 AM

Interesting that they added a rear fog to the '14 Nismo. I didn't notice it on the '13

DEpointfive0 07-26-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2419811)
I get that. It really sucks. I feel for the guys who are taking this in the shorts. But do you enjoy driving your car less now? It would be a shame to ditch a car you like over an issue with the manufacturer.

I would, it would chap my àss BIG TIME if EVERY TIME I say in my car I thought to myself, FÙCK... Worth an extra $4k less... FÙCK...

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2419813)
I lied, he got back $100 when the price went down $200:
http://m.cnet.com/news/apple-to-offer-$100-store-credit-to-iphone-customers/9773207

Ok, it was voluntary for consumer relations purposes. I remember the talk of legal action, and that wouldn't have held up. Apple did what Nissan should do and give something back. I just doubt they're going to do it.

The most I could see is them doing something that doesn't cost them out of pocket immediately, like extending the warranty out another few years or something like that.

If you honestly don't like the car any more, then go ahead and get out of it. I'd think long and hard about that before I pulled the trigger though. Youre pissed right now. The decision to take a monetary loss like you would if you sold it shouldn't be made in anger.


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