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12155ny 06-23-2013 03:55 PM

2013 Nissan base 370Z price
 
Figured this might help someone. I bought the base 370Z back in March. I bought the base model since I was going to replace the wheels anyway so I was going to pay the extra $$ for the sport package. Every deal is different but the car I wanted was at another dealership 150 miles away so I proceeded negotiate with a local dealer since I didn't want to drive to get the car (but would have if needed). I paid just shy of 33 grand "out the door". Dealer invoice is 31 grand, the kickback is another 900 or so which can be negotiated off (why pay extra for something you don't have to pay?). I didn't pay to have it delivered (dealer did a dealer swap), that was covered by the dealer. When you add up the tax, title and delivery, it was a couple hundred dollars shy of 33 grand. Deal took about 10 minutes to negotiate and Nissan also had 0% financing as well with no extra costs for those that "qualified" (which is just about anyone). Could I have done better? Maybe...could have been worse. Dealer probably made a couple hundred bucks (probably 200) on the deal and will be compensated by Nissan at year's end. To the dealer, it's all about moving cars. Hope that helps.

synolimit 06-23-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12155ny (Post 2375894)
I bought the base model since I was going to replace the wheels anyway so I wasn't going to pay the extra $$ for the sport package.

You realize though the cost of aftermarket wheels to match the size and weight of the forged rays is like $2000 don't you? Then you have to spend another $1000 plus for 19" tires. The invoice on the sport package is only $2600 and now you don't have a chin spoiler, LSD, euro shocks, synco rev match, rear spoiler, huge upgraded 4 piston front, 2 piston rear brakes that will cost you over $2000 to match and I think that's it. For $2600 sport is a no brainer since all that stuff will easily run over $5000 part by part.

Invoice sport is $33,600 with $1000 rebate here in NE ohio.

diddy535 06-23-2013 05:12 PM

Dealer made $200 on a $31,000 deal? That's a 0.6% total profit.

Plus if you parted out the sport wheels/tires you could have fetched at least $1400 on the forum to out towards your aftermarkets. Base wheels go for $600-$800

SS_Firehawk 06-23-2013 05:46 PM

SRM as well. If the dealer told you wheels were the only diff, you should go back and throat punch him. SP is worth every penny.

w0rM 06-23-2013 06:09 PM

I got my 2012 brand new under similar conditions. It was at a dealer about 70 miles away. The traded with them to get it for me.

I got mine WITH the sport package for just over $33k. Plus they gave me $400 over the KBB excellent value for my 350z trade in.

Any deal that takes minutes to negociate is going to favor the seller. That's negotiation 101.

12155ny 06-23-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2375967)
SRM as well. If the dealer told you wheels were the only diff, you should go back and throat punch him. SP is worth every penny.

Believe me, there's more to Sports package than just the wheels and it's worth it. Sadly, for me there wasn't a sports package in the color I wanted within 500 miles so it really wasn't a valid option.

12155ny 06-23-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 2375977)
I got my 2012 brand new under similar conditions. It was at a dealer about 70 miles away. The traded with them to get it for me.

I got mine WITH the sport package for just over $33k. Plus they gave me $400 over the KBB excellent value for my 350z trade in.

Any deal that takes minutes to negociate is going to favor the seller. That's negotiation 101.

Was that 33K out the door? My deal was pretty quick because I had it written down on a piece of paper. Dealer invoice - minus holdback and they get the car. Tax and title etc was a couple grand...

w0rM 06-23-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12155ny (Post 2375995)
Was that 33K out the door? My deal was pretty quick because I had it written down on a piece of paper. Dealer invoice - minus holdback and they get the car. Tax and title etc was a couple grand...

That's certainly not a terrible deal out the door but I think you could have probably done better. Any time a dealer jumps on an offer like that, something isn't right. I don't think having it written down makes a difference one way or another.

Either way, as long as you're happy, that's all that matter. Bottom line, you got a Z and that's a good thing. :)

SS_Firehawk 06-23-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 12155ny (Post 2375992)
Believe me, there's more to Sports package than just the wheels and it's worth it. Sadly, for me there wasn't a sports package in the color I wanted within 500 miles so it really wasn't a valid option.

Oh I know, I wasn't going to repeat what other members threw out. CG's on the ride regardless. Still a good deal.

synolimit 06-23-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 12155ny (Post 2375992)
Believe me, there's more to Sports package than just the wheels and it's worth it. Sadly, for me there wasn't a sports package in the color I wanted within 500 miles so it really wasn't a valid option.

Same here. Ordered from Japan, 17 days later it was at my door :ughdance: long 17 days but worth it.

red2010z 06-23-2013 07:23 PM

Congrats on the new Z

But I would have waited/ordered to get the Sports Package.

dawudih 06-23-2013 09:09 PM

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I paid $29k for a base auto in 2011. They had a manual sport for $30500. They had some 2010's left over for about $2k less. Although this was in 03/2011 so prices may have changed.

ShutokuZ 06-24-2013 01:04 PM

I got my PW 13 with sports $34,100 OTD last Oct here in SoCal. Although it is a lease, but that was the agreed upon price before I said I wanted to lease. They were not too happy when I flipped the purchase to lease, but I got that figure on paper before telling them.

Carbon_z 06-24-2013 01:44 PM

MSRP is alot higher now then it was in 2009.. I bought my 09 for 28,500 new :) Guess the foreign exchange rate has increased dramatically (dollar to Yin)

SS_Firehawk 06-24-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by billet370 (Post 2377065)
MSRP is alot higher now then it was in 2009.. I bought my 09 for 28,500 new :) Guess the foreign exchange rate has increased dramatically (dollar to Yin)

It's down to 2009 levels again :) Last year was terrible.

synolimit 06-24-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2377010)
I got my PW 13 with sports $34,100 OTD last Oct here in SoCal. Although it is a lease, but that was the agreed upon price before I said I wanted to lease. They were not too happy when I flipped the purchase to lease, but I got that figure on paper before telling them.

I'm calling BS on this! $34,100 OTD means you paid $31,604 for a sport model, $2212.05 for tax at 7%, $250 doc and $33.5 for title and plates if you're lucky with no other fees and zero add on features. There's no way you got a sport model for $578 over a base invoice, plus zero shipping charges or any other fees.

I paid $34,627 just for the car. I don't think you beat me by $3023 when I was already under msrp by $2758.


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ShutokuZ 06-25-2013 08:30 PM

Ok, I will post a pic of my lease invoice when I get home from vacay. I was at the dealer for about 3hrs in the evening and closed the place down. I have the floor mats and rear mat only as options. I don't post info, unless I can back it up........

synolimit 06-25-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2379536)
Ok, I will post a pic of my lease invoice when I get home from vacay. I was at the dealer for about 3hrs in the evening and closed the place down. I have the floor mats and rear mat only as options. I don't post info, unless I can back it up........

Well I guess I paid $1000 less since I got a rebate but still, $2023 is hard to believe. I didn't see a $3023 rebate. You get a "used" new car? Demo model? Sure its a real sport?

ShutokuZ 06-26-2013 09:55 AM

No rebates, new car, non demo, 28 miles on odo, and yes I am sure it is a sport.....
Not to sound arrogant, but I know a lot about cars and the models. If not, I research everything about them before I buy. I grew up around dealerships as a kid, since my father was in the auto finance business for over 25 years. So, I learned how to negotiate and avoid their tactics.

the A man 06-26-2013 11:35 AM

I got mine for i think $34,350 as equipt with tax, fees, and all the extra crap it came out to $37,500 even sports pack, colored mud flaps, and trunk mat were the options on it. Its hard to believe you but hey...anything is possible you did know people in the business after all so it is believable.

But wow man now the '13 370Zs go for like $3,000 more

ShutokuZ 06-26-2013 11:51 AM

I will post a shot of the paperwork with the OTD price on it. Will be back home on thurs, so can post then.
There are a lot of ways to negotiate good prices. I got the 13 cheaper than the new 12 with sport I was looking at on the lot.

synolimit 06-26-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2380282)
No rebates, new car, non demo, 28 miles on odo, and yes I am sure it is a sport.....
Not to sound arrogant, but I know a lot about cars and the models. If not, I research everything about them before I buy. I grew up around dealerships as a kid, since my father was in the auto finance business for over 25 years. So, I learned how to negotiate and avoid their tactics.

I sold for 3 years, don't doubt your knowledge, but knowledge doesn't make a dealer bend over and sell a car $3023 under invoice! With a $1000 rebate you'd still have to get them $2023 under invoice!

And actually I'm a hundred or so off because you said you got a few add of features.

synolimit 06-26-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2380535)
I will post a shot of the paperwork with the OTD price on it. Will be back home on thurs, so can post then.
There are a lot of ways to negotiate good prices. I got the 13 cheaper than the new 12 with sport I was looking at on the lot.

Don't just post the OTD, post the whole buyers order right side column.

ShutokuZ 06-26-2013 02:57 PM

Ok, I will post want I want of the invoice. I will not have any of my personal information showing. I really don't like how you think you know what I have and I don't. If you want more information, just say insead of calling me a liar on the forum..... Thank you.

synolimit 06-26-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2380824)
Ok, I will post want I want of the invoice. I will not have any of my personal information showing. I really don't like how you think you know what I have and I don't. If you want more information, just say insead of calling me a liar on the forum..... Thank you.

Relax spaz, if you knew so much about buying cars you'd know the right side of the buyers order only shows the numbers from price of vehical, tax, all the way down to OTD price. And I'm pretty sure thats what I've been asking :tup: I don't want you to conveniently leave anything out like a $2000 down payment.

At this point I don't even care. I've run the numbers. If you're telling the truth, only way you got a sport for $31k is if that car was f'd up and the dealer discounted the price from insurance money or something. No ones going into hold back for you and certainly not $2000 worth without the car already being cheaper for one reason or another.

ShutokuZ 06-26-2013 04:19 PM

Like I said above, this was a lease, not a purchase so the forms are different!
Here is a shot of the gross cap cost (my agreed upon price) and my figure my payments were based on. I was a little off of my number above, it is a little less.
The $1,440 drop was from getting them to remove the acquisition fee and the maint gold package price. They had messed up my paperwork twice, so they agreed to drop the acq fee and give me the maint package free.....
I don't care one bit if you don't believe me and name calling isn't needed here.
Accept it or don't and move on.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...m3/image-3.jpg

synolimit 06-26-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2380973)
Like I said above, this was a lease, not a purchase so the forms are different!
Here is a shot of the gross cap cost (my agreed upon price) and my figure my payments were based on. I was a little off of my number above, it is a little less.
The $1,440 drop was from getting them to remove the acquisition fee and the maint gold package price. They had messed up my paperwork twice, so they agreed to drop the acq fee and give me the maint package free.....
I don't care one bit if you don't believe me and name calling isn't needed here.
Accept it or don't and move on.

Lol that doesn't matter though. That's not your OTD price. Now go down to Line 7. A) agreed upon value.

ShutokuZ 06-26-2013 04:35 PM

Happy now?
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...m3/image-4.jpg

synolimit 06-26-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2381007)
Happy now?
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Yes, and I was correct, you didn't pay that OTD. Lease or no lease the price of the vehical was not how you put it. Like I said I paid $34,627 for the vehical. Don't know why you couldn't just say you paid $34,303 and it would have been done.

So for people reading this from his misleading info if this was a buy, his OTD would of been $37,005. :tup:

ShutokuZ 06-26-2013 04:47 PM

Ok and how do you get that figure?????

synolimit 06-26-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2381012)
if this was a buy




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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2381020)
Ok and how do you get that figure?????


$34,303+250x0.07%+33.5=:tup:

ShutokuZ 06-26-2013 05:10 PM

Ok so tell me this, how is my monthly $374 (36 months) and my residual price $20,804?

370z2k10 06-27-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 2381041)
Ok so tell me this, how is my monthly $374 (36 months) and my residual price $20,804?

How much did you put down?

ShutokuZ 06-27-2013 09:07 AM

I only put down $1,100 to cover my first three payments. That is why it is calculated at 36 months instead of 39.


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