Ordering vs Buying off the lot

Volk Z · 04-18-2013, 01:20 PM

I had 7 miles on my 2013 Nismo that was ordered and no one even moved it except off the truck. I instructed not to take the white plastic off or wash it. I actually brought my adams wash supplies to the dealer and washed it there, put painters tape over the whole front and drove 15 minutes to the clear bra installer

My Nismo i ordered was never driven except by me following the correct break in procedure (yes i even went with the salesmen to fill the tank up myself and drove it back for them to do the safety inspection)

The dealer in Charleston SC was VERY accomodating and was also good at giving me updates on where the car was and it arrived on the exact day they told me from the beginning.

LaCxefo · 04-18-2013, 05:46 PM

This is great info guys. I like the idea of ordering, but if this car turns out to be well taken care of and 10-12 miles, I'll probably go with that one. I have been to talking to an online sales rep trying to get prices from him (following advice from the car buying 101 thread). I also read through the "what did you pay for your z" thread. He quoted me at $43,600 PLUS taxes and registration. The car doesn't have any trim, just basic NISMO. This seems high, after bumping it against the Fair Market value on three sites, which all said between $40k and $42k for my zip code. I am assuming i will be able to negotiate that down? What did you pay for yours Volkz, if you don't mind me asking? Only reason i wanna get a feel is because that article i read made it seem like the internet sales guys give u a straight up bottom line answer. I'm debating just walking in and getting a lot salesman and starting fresh with all the paperwork printed out. This guy doesn't seem real into the sale or personable, all his emails seem generic and uninterested.

Volk Z · 04-18-2013, 06:05 PM

I paid 41,800 give or take plus the cross the board 300 dollars for tax down here in SC
I have the reverse camera and illuminated kick plates

I originally was going to buy from the Nissan next to me with same extras and the best they could do was 42600 plus tax.

LaCxefo · 04-18-2013, 06:58 PM

Damn, I wish I had more options. Albequerque is really the only city I can go to since I am stationed in Clovis, NM which is quite literaly in the middle of no where. If I went east to Texas, I'd be paying double the tax. I guess I'm gonna have to see how good my negotiating skills are. $41-42k before tax is where I wanna be.

Volk Z · 04-18-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LaCxefo

Damn, I wish I had more options. Albequerque is really the only city I can go to since I am stationed in Clovis, NM which is quite literaly in the middle of no where. If I went east to Texas, I'd be paying double the tax. I guess I'm gonna have to see how good my negotiating skills are. $41-42k before tax is where I wanna be.

Yeah my cousin was stationed in alamagordo NM... I think they had an Applebee's and that's it... Lol
Yeah 41-42k before taxes is good... If you can get one with the reverse camera I recommend it as the wing doesn't help for visual backing up and the side little windows on my 350z were usable but on the 370z they are useless so the only thing you have is side windows and a little bit of the rear window in between the wing!

LaCxefo · 04-18-2013, 07:22 PM

Im sorry for your cousin, Holloman AFB is just as bad as here. We have a Chili's, Applebees, and one bar in the entire town. And I think there are more cows here than people. Haha.

Thats what I origionally wanted, and the illuminated kickplates. Someone eariler said that those are dealer installed options. Does that mean I could have them throw that on at a later date? My other option is: Since I am not getting bose and planning on getting a custom soundsystem installed right away with Kenwood DNX890HD, I could have a camera connected to that right?

Volk Z · 04-18-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LaCxefo

Im sorry for your cousin, Holloman AFB is just as bad as here. We have a Chili's, Applebees, and one bar in the entire town. And I think there are more cows here than people. Haha.

Thats what I origionally wanted, and the illuminated kickplates. Someone eariler said that those are dealer installed options. Does that mean I could have them throw that on at a later date? My other option is: Since I am not getting bose and planning on getting a custom soundsystem installed right away with Kenwood DNX890HD, I could have a camera connected to that right?

Yeah the kickplates can be added later as well as the reverse camera... To me though I like it all stock with electronics.
I'm more into suspension, forged wheels and shaving some weight off rather then adding with subs etc.

Well I hope you get what you want, one way or the other the Nismo is gorgeous! If I were you I would jump on a 2013 before they change some stuff for the 2014 (gray two tone bottom) etc. Personally I don't like it. So the 2013 will be the sexiest year for the Nismo yet.
White, Black and Red are the sexiest colors to me

Nissan usually end their ordering for that current year car around June or so.... So hop to it if you want to order a 2013 before they alter them...

LaCxefo · 04-18-2013, 10:42 PM

Yeah I couldn't agree more. I'm getting a 2013 this weekend, whether its the one they have, or I order it. I'm not a fan of the two tone, it looks a little ricey to me. As for weight, I'll be heading to CA and having GTM put on the stage 1.5 SC when I get back from training.

Volk Z · 04-19-2013, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LaCxefo

Yeah I couldn't agree more. I'm getting a 2013 this weekend, whether its the one they have, or I order it. I'm not a fan of the two tone, it looks a little ricey to me. As for weight, I'll be heading to CA and having GTM put on the stage 1.5 SC when I get back from training.

Sick! Post pics once you get your new Z

mults · 04-19-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LaCxefo

Hey guys, I'm new here (only been a spectator till now) and I'm looking for some opinions. I tried searching but didn't come up with what I was looking for (unless I just suck at searching). I am going to be buying a white 2013 Nismo 370z this weekend. The dealership has a white one on the lot. The only thing it doesn't have that I kind of wanted was the kickplates and the back up camera (two things I can live without, i guess) My question is: What are your feelings about buying it new from the lot if it has 10-12 miles on it as opposed to ordering? I just wonder how those miles were put on. I am the type of person that obides by the break in process, and worry that if people test drove the car, that they "wanted to see how fast it was" and am not a fan of people reving it up and banging through gears when it had 5 miles on it. My other option is to order it, with the two options I want, but then have to wait 3 months, and probably have less bagaining power. Maybe im just being paranoid, so i figured I'd ask the question on here. I know in the end it boils down to what makes me happy, but I'm just wanted some personal opinions to bump my decision against. Right now I'm leaning towards ordering... Thanks for the help.

It's like I tell my wife when we go to Costco, "if you see something you like, you better get it because it may be gone when you go back". I say that you do what you have to do to get the EXACT car that you want; wheter it is on the lot or wheter it needs to be ordered. Good Luck with your decision.

LaCxefo · 04-21-2013, 12:58 AM

Ok guys, got the car! I figure I can wrap up this post by sharing my buying experience with everyone, to help future buyers.

I started by calling the internet dealer earlier this week asking for a bottom line price, and he gave me $43.6k. When I got to the dealership, i realized the car I wanted was actually inside the building on the showroom floor next to the GT-R! Already a good sign.

I sat down with what seemed to be a young, new sales guy being helped by the manager. He was very excited and said "Wow, I've never sold a NISMO before!". They sat down with me at the table and the manager gave me the 4 square paper that said $47k. I smiled and showed them the bottom line quote the internet sales rep gave me and took out the print outs of true market value from edmunds, KBB, and USAA car buying service. They all said around $42k for that zip code with no trim.

He returned with the offer of $43.6k and appologized for jerking me around and said "we had to try". They also offered $17k for my truck. I had an '09 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X, fully loaded; leather, premium sound you name it, title in hand. with 35k miles on the odo. I showed them true market value for a trade in on my truck at $18.5.

Long story short, after about 45 min, I got them to drop the price to $43k on the NISMO, and $18.5 for the truck. That is when I found out the NISMO had Bose sound and illuminated kick plates. I asked for the dealer invoice, and it turns out they were giving me the car for just over invoice and couldnt actually go any lower. I signed the papers.

When it was all said and done, out the door I only had to finance $25k and they gave me a 60 mo. loan at 1.39% APR. All in All, I am very happy, and it def paid to talk to you guys first and do my homework.

The car turned out to only have 3 miles on it! And I felt like a baller when everyone in the dealership had to get up and move the tables, drive out the GT-R and then get my car out as all the customers watched. The car is fantastic and I couldn't be more happy. I will post pics tomorrow when it's light out. Again, thank you all very much for the help!

Volk Z · 04-21-2013, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaCxefo

Ok guys, got the car! I figure I can wrap up this post by sharing my buying experience with everyone, to help future buyers.

I started by calling the internet dealer earlier this week asking for a bottom line price, and he gave me $43.6k. When I got to the dealership, i realized the car I wanted was actually inside the building on the showroom floor next to the GT-R! Already a good sign.

I sat down with what seemed to be a young, new sales guy being helped by the manager. He was very excited and said "Wow, I've never sold a NISMO before!". They sat down with me at the table and the manager gave me the 4 square paper that said $47k. I smiled and showed them the bottom line quote the internet sales rep gave me and took out the print outs of true market value from edmunds, KBB, and USAA car buying service. They all said around $42k for that zip code with no trim.

He returned with the offer of $43.6k and appologized for jerking me around and said "we had to try". They also offered $17k for my truck. I had an '09 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X, fully loaded; leather, premium sound you name it, title in hand. with 35k miles on the odo. I showed them true market value for a trade in on my truck at $18.5.

Long story short, after about 45 min, I got them to drop the price to $43k on the NISMO, and $18.5 for the truck. That is when I found out the NISMO had Bose sound and illuminated kick plates. I asked for the dealer invoice, and it turns out they were giving me the car for just over invoice and couldnt actually go any lower. I signed the papers.

When it was all said and done, out the door I only had to finance $25k and they gave me a 60 mo. loan at 1.39% APR. All in All, I am very happy, and it def paid to talk to you guys first and do my homework.

The car turned out to only have 3 miles on it! And I felt like a baller when everyone in the dealership had to get up and move the tables, drive out the GT-R and then get my car out as all the customers watched. The car is fantastic and I couldn't be more happy. I will post pics tomorrow when it's light out. Again, thank you all very much for the help!

Great price with Bose! Post pics and take that thing to get clear bra'd asap

Jasonle · 04-21-2013, 11:15 AM

congrats dude!

LaCxefo · 04-21-2013, 11:54 PM

Here's some pics. I didn't have much time. I'll take better ones later this week when I clean it, and post them in a diff thread. Thanks again for all the help every one!

Volk Z · 04-22-2013, 10:07 AM

That looks like you are in those fields where Tornadoes hit.... Those are pretty nice first pics! Great choice on the color! Black and White are by far the sexiest

Hows the color match on the bumpers and side skirts vs the rest of the car? that was the reason i didnt get a white one as that paint differed so greatly on the plastic panels vs metal panels.... Also thats a 3 stage paint so if you ever need paint work you will need to find a VERY good painter.

As far as the pics go the color match looks real good, but you can tell more when the sun is beaming on it.

04-18-2013, 01:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3066	I had 7 miles on my 2013 Nismo that was ordered and no one even moved it except off the truck. I instructed not to take the white plastic off or wash it. I actually brought my adams wash supplies to the dealer and washed it there, put painters tape over the whole front and drove 15 minutes to the clear bra installer My Nismo i ordered was never driven except by me following the correct break in procedure (yes i even went with the salesmen to fill the tank up myself and drove it back for them to do the safety inspection) The dealer in Charleston SC was VERY accomodating and was also good at giving me updates on where the car was and it arrived on the exact day they told me from the beginning. __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON Last edited by Volk Z; 04-18-2013 at 01:24 PM.

04-18-2013, 06:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3066	I paid 41,800 give or take plus the cross the board 300 dollars for tax down here in SC I have the reverse camera and illuminated kick plates I originally was going to buy from the Nissan next to me with same extras and the best they could do was 42600 plus tax. __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON Last edited by Volk Z; 04-18-2013 at 06:08 PM.

04-18-2013, 07:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
LaCxefo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 16 Drives: 2013 NISMO 370z Rep Power: 12	Im sorry for your cousin, Holloman AFB is just as bad as here. We have a Chili's, Applebees, and one bar in the entire town. And I think there are more cows here than people. Haha. Thats what I origionally wanted, and the illuminated kickplates. Someone eariler said that those are dealer installed options. Does that mean I could have them throw that on at a later date? My other option is: Since I am not getting bose and planning on getting a custom soundsystem installed right away with Kenwood DNX890HD, I could have a camera connected to that right? Last edited by LaCxefo; 04-18-2013 at 07:36 PM.

04-21-2013, 12:58 AM	#26 (permalink)
LaCxefo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 16 Drives: 2013 NISMO 370z Rep Power: 12	Ok guys, got the car! I figure I can wrap up this post by sharing my buying experience with everyone, to help future buyers. I started by calling the internet dealer earlier this week asking for a bottom line price, and he gave me $43.6k. When I got to the dealership, i realized the car I wanted was actually inside the building on the showroom floor next to the GT-R! Already a good sign. I sat down with what seemed to be a young, new sales guy being helped by the manager. He was very excited and said "Wow, I've never sold a NISMO before!". They sat down with me at the table and the manager gave me the 4 square paper that said $47k. I smiled and showed them the bottom line quote the internet sales rep gave me and took out the print outs of true market value from edmunds, KBB, and USAA car buying service. They all said around $42k for that zip code with no trim. He returned with the offer of $43.6k and appologized for jerking me around and said "we had to try". They also offered $17k for my truck. I had an '09 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X, fully loaded; leather, premium sound you name it, title in hand. with 35k miles on the odo. I showed them true market value for a trade in on my truck at $18.5. Long story short, after about 45 min, I got them to drop the price to $43k on the NISMO, and $18.5 for the truck. That is when I found out the NISMO had Bose sound and illuminated kick plates. I asked for the dealer invoice, and it turns out they were giving me the car for just over invoice and couldnt actually go any lower. I signed the papers. When it was all said and done, out the door I only had to finance $25k and they gave me a 60 mo. loan at 1.39% APR. All in All, I am very happy, and it def paid to talk to you guys first and do my homework. The car turned out to only have 3 miles on it! And I felt like a baller when everyone in the dealership had to get up and move the tables, drive out the GT-R and then get my car out as all the customers watched. The car is fantastic and I couldn't be more happy. I will post pics tomorrow when it's light out. Again, thank you all very much for the help! Valentino and Jasonle like this.

04-21-2013, 11:15 AM	#28 (permalink)
Jasonle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 3,509 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 25	congrats dude! __________________ 2009 Nissan 370z/2003 Honda Soccer Van Shineauto Amuse Body Kit/UAM Fenders/Bc Br Coilovers/Topspeed Exhaust/Racing Hart Wheels and More My Sexy Beast

04-18-2013, 05:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
LaCxefo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 16 Drives: 2013 NISMO 370z Rep Power: 12	This is great info guys. I like the idea of ordering, but if this car turns out to be well taken care of and 10-12 miles, I'll probably go with that one. I have been to talking to an online sales rep trying to get prices from him (following advice from the car buying 101 thread). I also read through the "what did you pay for your z" thread. He quoted me at $43,600 PLUS taxes and registration. The car doesn't have any trim, just basic NISMO. This seems high, after bumping it against the Fair Market value on three sites, which all said between $40k and $42k for my zip code. I am assuming i will be able to negotiate that down? What did you pay for yours Volkz, if you don't mind me asking? Only reason i wanna get a feel is because that article i read made it seem like the internet sales guys give u a straight up bottom line answer. I'm debating just walking in and getting a lot salesman and starting fresh with all the paperwork printed out. This guy doesn't seem real into the sale or personable, all his emails seem generic and uninterested.

04-18-2013, 06:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
LaCxefo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 16 Drives: 2013 NISMO 370z Rep Power: 12	Damn, I wish I had more options. Albequerque is really the only city I can go to since I am stationed in Clovis, NM which is quite literaly in the middle of no where. If I went east to Texas, I'd be paying double the tax. I guess I'm gonna have to see how good my negotiating skills are. $41-42k before tax is where I wanna be.

04-18-2013, 10:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
LaCxefo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 16 Drives: 2013 NISMO 370z Rep Power: 12	Yeah I couldn't agree more. I'm getting a 2013 this weekend, whether its the one they have, or I order it. I'm not a fan of the two tone, it looks a little ricey to me. As for weight, I'll be heading to CA and having GTM put on the stage 1.5 SC when I get back from training.

04-21-2013, 11:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
LaCxefo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 16 Drives: 2013 NISMO 370z Rep Power: 12	Here's some pics. I didn't have much time. I'll take better ones later this week when I clean it, and post them in a diff thread. Thanks again for all the help every one!

04-22-2013, 10:07 AM	#30 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3066	That looks like you are in those fields where Tornadoes hit.... Those are pretty nice first pics! Great choice on the color! Black and White are by far the sexiest Hows the color match on the bumpers and side skirts vs the rest of the car? that was the reason i didnt get a white one as that paint differed so greatly on the plastic panels vs metal panels.... Also thats a 3 stage paint so if you ever need paint work you will need to find a VERY good painter. As far as the pics go the color match looks real good, but you can tell more when the sun is beaming on it. __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON

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