Need your opinion....Please

BlueZair · 01-21-2012, 05:35 PM

Guys give me your opinion on this, I currently bought also 09 370Z MB 6speed Sport Touring 22,617miles at a dealership in IA. I offered them 27K OTD. But now I have to pay the Registration,and title fees,etc.The dealer sent my money back only for the tax . They cant process the tax and the rest, reason being they are out of state. Asking or advertise price was $26,499. The dealer said I can return the car.What do you think I should do? I want them to pay the Reg.and fees,and the under tax that thet estimated.

eggerstout · 01-21-2012, 05:50 PM

What city in Iowa

BlueZair · 01-21-2012, 05:59 PM

Yes Eggerstout

eggerstout · 01-21-2012, 09:46 PM

What does your paperwork document for title and registrations fees, taxes, this is what i would check, if it comes down to how you feel about the deal, by all means take the car back, if the car makes you happy and you are willing to take the $300-400 dollar hit for reg and title then keep it

BlueZair · 01-21-2012, 10:07 PM

I feel like,I was being deceived after the sale.the salesman told me when I was dealing with him on the phone,that I will receive the L plate in a week after the sale.I like the car,that is why I don't know what to do.I'm not sure if the price is fair?

gsxr750 · 01-22-2012, 12:26 AM

Too much its better off to buy new, just got a 2012 manual and sport package for $34k plus tax and fees, $36,800 OTD. Dealer mark up on 370z is 9.6% off MSRP including dealer hold back of around $950.

nmjaxx9 · 01-22-2012, 02:11 AM

I think 27k is a little high for a 09 with close to 23k miles on it. However, if it is a matter of paying a couple hundred more dollars to keep the car, and you like the car, I say just pay it and be done with it.

BlueZair · 01-22-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

I think 27k is a little high for a 09 with close to 23k miles on it. However, if it is a matter of paying a couple hundred more dollars to keep the car, and you like the car, I say just pay it and be done with it.

Tomorrow,Ill decide whether to keep it or not.Both the Salesman,and the manager told me that they already lose on this sale

eggerstout · 01-22-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueZair

Tomorrow,Ill decide whether to keep it or not.Both the Salesman,and the manager told me that they already lose on this sale

Highly questionable

nmjaxx9 · 01-22-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueZair

Tomorrow,Ill decide whether to keep it or not.Both the Salesman,and the manager told me that they already lose on this sale

Yeah thats their way of trying to make it seem like you are getting a better deal than you are actually getting.

Regardless, please do update on what happens.

Aizen Sosuke · 01-23-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Too much its better off to buy new, just got a 2012 manual and sport package for $34k plus tax and fees, $36,800 OTD. Dealer mark up on 370z is 9.6% off MSRP including dealer hold back of around $950.

If this is a base model you overpayed a 1.5k invoice on the base with sport is roughly 32.5k. If it's a touring then it's a killer deal.

OP it sounds like they tricked you into getting the car before the details were ironed out. This is a common tactic in hopes you let them charge you the extra money cause you now love the car. Stick to your original deal. What's your state tax %? and tag and title fees?

gsxr750 · 01-23-2012, 11:29 AM

There were other options that the dealer added but they were minor they added up to around $500, once there added to the car the dealer can't really remove them.

One thing on renegociating the price you paid leveraging the return policy. Make sure you don't fall prey to the dealers tactic of showing some print package which shows how much they have into the deal, when they took the car in trade.

Whenever a dealer takes a car in trade , the dealer never gives the new buyer the lowest possible price on a the new car he buys.

Example a leftover 2011 vette I ws working a deal on last week the best cash deal I got on it was $45K, couldn't get the dealer to go lower. Called later on in the week, when my dealer on the 2012 vette fell through. The dealer told me it was sold and a guy traded a 2009 vette on it and they ended up making $4k more than I would have paid on the clean deal.

Just rember stick to the wholesale figures I gave you, this is what the dealer actually paid no matter what and if they have a return policy, believe me they would be willing to pay you more money than they owe you to keep the car.

Right now you have the dealers family jewels in a vice tightening.

BlueZair · 01-23-2012, 11:33 AM

Guys, This is the update,The manager at dealership fold his card. He is sending me back a check for $1,960, which covers all the taxes,the reg. title and fees here in IL. So the final price of the 2009 Nissan 370Z with 22,617 miles is $25,040. Adding to 27K my offer OTD. I was firm about returning the car today. I also know that they need to move their inventory as well. Sometimes if you strongly believe on something that is not right, at least try to fight for it.

nmjaxx9 · 01-23-2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueZair

Guys, This is the update,The manager at dealership fold his card. He is sending me back a check for $1,960, which covers all the taxes,the reg. title and fees here in IL. So the final price of the 2009 Nissan 370Z with 22,617 miles is $25,040. Adding to 27K my offer OTD. I was firm about returning the car today. I also know that they need to move their inventory as well. Sometimes if you strongly believe on something that is not right, at least try to fight for it.

So this means you are keeping the Z or no?

sfearl1 · 01-22-2012, 10:13 AM

they always say that lol. i say eat the bill, keep the Z and be happy

01-21-2012, 05:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
BlueZair Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago,IL Posts: 142 Drives: 10 IS 250/09 370Z Rep Power: 14	Need your opinion....Please Guys give me your opinion on this, I currently bought also 09 370Z MB 6speed Sport Touring 22,617miles at a dealership in IA. I offered them 27K OTD. But now I have to pay the Registration,and title fees,etc.The dealer sent my money back only for the tax . They cant process the tax and the rest, reason being they are out of state. Asking or advertise price was $26,499. The dealer said I can return the car.What do you think I should do? I want them to pay the Reg.and fees,and the under tax that thet estimated.

01-23-2012, 11:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
BlueZair Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago,IL Posts: 142 Drives: 10 IS 250/09 370Z Rep Power: 14	The Final Price Guys, This is the update,The manager at dealership fold his card. He is sending me back a check for $1,960, which covers all the taxes,the reg. title and fees here in IL. So the final price of the 2009 Nissan 370Z with 22,617 miles is $25,040. Adding to 27K my offer OTD. I was firm about returning the car today. I also know that they need to move their inventory as well. Sometimes if you strongly believe on something that is not right, at least try to fight for it.

01-22-2012, 10:13 AM	#15 (permalink)
sfearl1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,300 Drives: 2013 FBO E85 GTR Rep Power: 18	they always say that lol. i say eat the bill, keep the Z and be happy __________________ Scott

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01-21-2012, 05:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
eggerstout Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 23 Drives: 2011 370z MB Rep Power: 15	What city in Iowa

01-21-2012, 05:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
BlueZair Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago,IL Posts: 142 Drives: 10 IS 250/09 370Z Rep Power: 14	Yes Eggerstout

01-21-2012, 09:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
eggerstout Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 23 Drives: 2011 370z MB Rep Power: 15	What does your paperwork document for title and registrations fees, taxes, this is what i would check, if it comes down to how you feel about the deal, by all means take the car back, if the car makes you happy and you are willing to take the $300-400 dollar hit for reg and title then keep it

01-21-2012, 10:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
BlueZair Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago,IL Posts: 142 Drives: 10 IS 250/09 370Z Rep Power: 14	I feel like,I was being deceived after the sale.the salesman told me when I was dealing with him on the phone,that I will receive the L plate in a week after the sale.I like the car,that is why I don't know what to do.I'm not sure if the price is fair?

01-22-2012, 12:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 14	Too much its better off to buy new, just got a 2012 manual and sport package for $34k plus tax and fees, $36,800 OTD. Dealer mark up on 370z is 9.6% off MSRP including dealer hold back of around $950.

01-22-2012, 02:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
nmjaxx9 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Middletown, Ct Posts: 5,853 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 26	I think 27k is a little high for a 09 with close to 23k miles on it. However, if it is a matter of paying a couple hundred more dollars to keep the car, and you like the car, I say just pay it and be done with it.

01-23-2012, 11:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 14	There were other options that the dealer added but they were minor they added up to around $500, once there added to the car the dealer can't really remove them. One thing on renegociating the price you paid leveraging the return policy. Make sure you don't fall prey to the dealers tactic of showing some print package which shows how much they have into the deal, when they took the car in trade. Whenever a dealer takes a car in trade , the dealer never gives the new buyer the lowest possible price on a the new car he buys. Example a leftover 2011 vette I ws working a deal on last week the best cash deal I got on it was $45K, couldn't get the dealer to go lower. Called later on in the week, when my dealer on the 2012 vette fell through. The dealer told me it was sold and a guy traded a 2009 vette on it and they ended up making $4k more than I would have paid on the clean deal. Just rember stick to the wholesale figures I gave you, this is what the dealer actually paid no matter what and if they have a return policy, believe me they would be willing to pay you more money than they owe you to keep the car. Right now you have the dealers family jewels in a vice tightening.