Is this fraud?

Samich · 06-27-2011, 04:05 PM

Is it legal or illegal to conjure up a fake quote or invoice of a car from another dealership. Say that I told a dealership that a different dealership said they would sell me a car for X amount of dollars even though they didn't.

Would this be considered fraud of any sort? Could I get into trouble?

FuszNissan · 06-27-2011, 04:14 PM

That is called lying. But in our industry we call that customer negotiating.

I don't see really anything wrong with it, unless you truly start making up Fake Invoices, or bill of sales.

What price do you need to walk in with. I will make you one....

shadoquad · 06-27-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

That is called lying. But in our industry we call that customer negotiating.

I don't see really anything wrong with it, unless you truly start making up Fake Invoices, or bill of sales.

What price do you need to walk in with. I will make you one....

Lou, I had a guy at a Nissan Dealer in Faketown, Maryland offer me a GTR for six dollars and a pot of chili. If you can match that, I'll take delivery tomorrow.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-27-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Lou, I had a guy at a Nissan Dealer in Faketown, Maryland offer me a GTR for six dollars and a pot of chili. If you can match that, I'll take delivery tomorrow.

+1

FuszNissan · 06-27-2011, 04:51 PM

A whole Pot....I may be able to do a cup, with no cheese.

shadoquad · 06-27-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

A whole Pot....I may be able to do a cup, with no cheese.

Actually, with gas prices right now, even without chili I might be better off paying MSRP than driving to STL.

SPOHN · 06-27-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

That is called lying. But in our industry we call that customer negotiating.

Samich · 06-27-2011, 06:54 PM

haha I'd like an invoice of 1 dollar on a fully load Z please.

P.S gas prices are going down! Regular fuel is $3.20 where I live.

FuszNissan · 06-28-2011, 12:38 PM

Samich, your best bet, legal, and moral, is to email 4-5 dealers around your area, regardless of the miles, and get there best price on the vehicle you want. Then pin them all against each other, and when you get your best negotiated deal, take it to your local dealer and see if they will beat it.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-28-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Samich, your best bet, legal, and moral, is to email 4-5 dealers around your area, regardless of the miles, and get there best price on the vehicle you want. Then pin them all against each other, and when you get your best negotiated deal, take it to your local dealer and see if they will beat it.

Then try to get them to beat the $1 invoice from Fusz Nissan

FuszNissan · 06-28-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Then try to get them to beat the $1 invoice from Fusz Nissan

Where is this $1 over invoice?

shadoquad · 06-28-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Where is this $1 over invoice?

b1adesofcha0s · 06-28-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Where is this $1 invoice?

I'll have it as soon as you make me one.

FuszNissan · 06-28-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Shhh.....

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I'll have it as soon as you make me one.

Not a problem!

b1adesofcha0s · 06-28-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Shhh.....

Not a problem!

Did you notice my ninja fix of your quote?

06-27-2011, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Samich Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 21 Drives: 10 Altima Coupe 2.5 Rep Power: 14	Is this fraud? Is it legal or illegal to conjure up a fake quote or invoice of a car from another dealership. Say that I told a dealership that a different dealership said they would sell me a car for X amount of dollars even though they didn't. Would this be considered fraud of any sort? Could I get into trouble?

06-27-2011, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	That is called lying. But in our industry we call that customer negotiating. I don't see really anything wrong with it, unless you truly start making up Fake Invoices, or bill of sales. What price do you need to walk in with. I will make you one.... __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

06-27-2011, 04:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	A whole Pot....I may be able to do a cup, with no cheese. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

06-28-2011, 12:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	Samich, your best bet, legal, and moral, is to email 4-5 dealers around your area, regardless of the miles, and get there best price on the vehicle you want. Then pin them all against each other, and when you get your best negotiated deal, take it to your local dealer and see if they will beat it. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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06-27-2011, 06:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Samich Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 21 Drives: 10 Altima Coupe 2.5 Rep Power: 14	haha I'd like an invoice of 1 dollar on a fully load Z please. P.S gas prices are going down! Regular fuel is $3.20 where I live.