The right price for a VPP purchased Nismo?

Rigormortis · 08-09-2010, 02:12 PM

Howdy,
I'm looking to purchase a silver 2010 Nismo. The dealership I'm working with gave me a 41,350 MSRP figure for the "fully loaded" Nismo (perf brakes, kick plate, floor matts, trunk matt) and take home price of $39786 + tax + plates + $105 doc/title. Is this in line with VPP pricing? Looks like it is $1300 over invoice.

Edit: Humm... based on the VPP sticky thread I think they're either not using the VPP pricing or the program has changed drastically

The thread talks about a 2.87% discount on invoice plus 2.5% dealer delivery plus destination which would give a $37,576.55 purchase price not including tax, plates, doc/title (37000-1062+898+740=37,576). At the very end of the thread someone mentions that in June the D program changed to a flat $150 discount off of invoice which would yield... $37,000-150+2.5% delivery($921)+740 destination = $38,511. Either way it would seem that I need to talk calculation details with the dealer as the math just doesn't work out.

Edit #2: Actually, the new program is explained very clearly at insidenissan.com you get a flat $150 below invoice with no 2.5% delivery fee, so I should be seeing a purchase price of 37000-150+740=$37590. Waiting on a call back from my dealer...

Edit #3 I forgot the invoice cost of the options which adds $741. So, actually it's 37741-150+740=$ 38331
They shot me a price of $39,786, so still a $1455 difference. My dealer's explanation? There's a cost to get the car here as it's not on their lot (dealer swap) plus they need to make some money on the deal. Thoughts?

Rigormortis · 08-09-2010, 08:57 PM

I've pulled the trigger. I found a dealership in IL willing to do full VPP pricing. However, the taxes are 1.25% higher in IL than Iowa so I simply countered the offer I received in Iowa to be equal with the price I would have got in IL minus the additional tax. Now I just have to wait for my baby to arrive

Xan · 08-09-2010, 09:02 PM

I'm pretty sure you always pay sales tax in the state you register the car.
Either way, congrats!

Rigormortis · 08-09-2010, 10:02 PM

doh! A quick google search confirms it. I had no idea. I've only purchased cars in Iowa. Don't I feel silly? Funny that the dealership was good with my counter given my faulty logic. Makes me think I left cash on the table, but oh well... at some point you gotta move forward

NismoJim · 08-10-2010, 06:21 AM

I think you got a good deal, however...

I just purchased my Nismo last month and was eligible for VPP. I was able to negotiate almost another $800 off the VPP Nismo price from the dealer (for a car they did not have in stock!).

FYI.. If you go to TrueCar: 2010 Nissan 370Z 2dr Coupe Man NISMO - New Car Price Report, this report gives you the real value of the vehicle.

The Nismo is a great car and you still got a good deal!

Congrats on your purchase, good luck, and enjoy!

Jim

FuszNissan · 08-10-2010, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan

I'm pretty sure you always pay sales tax in the state you register the car.
Either way, congrats!

That is correct

Also you can get a cheaper price by not doing vpp

koeppelnissan · 08-10-2010, 08:48 AM

I will usually take the VPP claim number, as Nissan will give us a little extra money, but sell the car for a few hundred less than the VPP price!

WShade · 08-10-2010, 01:39 PM

@Rigormortis
I would contact another dealer if at all possible. May be worth it to have one of our supporting dealers ship you a car. Both dealers above have already said they can do better than VPP. Numbers at your current dealership look like shenanigans to me.

08-09-2010, 02:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rigormortis Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 29 Drives: Nissan murrano Rep Power: 15	The right price for a VPP purchased Nismo? Howdy, I'm looking to purchase a silver 2010 Nismo. The dealership I'm working with gave me a 41,350 MSRP figure for the "fully loaded" Nismo (perf brakes, kick plate, floor matts, trunk matt) and take home price of $39786 + tax + plates + $105 doc/title. Is this in line with VPP pricing? Looks like it is $1300 over invoice. Edit: Humm... based on the VPP sticky thread I think they're either not using the VPP pricing or the program has changed drastically The thread talks about a 2.87% discount on invoice plus 2.5% dealer delivery plus destination which would give a $37,576.55 purchase price not including tax, plates, doc/title (37000-1062+898+740=37,576). At the very end of the thread someone mentions that in June the D program changed to a flat $150 discount off of invoice which would yield... $37,000-150+2.5% delivery($921)+740 destination = $38,511. Either way it would seem that I need to talk calculation details with the dealer as the math just doesn't work out. Edit #2: Actually, the new program is explained very clearly at insidenissan.com you get a flat $150 below invoice with no 2.5% delivery fee, so I should be seeing a purchase price of 37000-150+740=$37590. Waiting on a call back from my dealer... Edit #3 I forgot the invoice cost of the options which adds $741. So, actually it's 37741-150+740=$ 38331 They shot me a price of $39,786, so still a $1455 difference. My dealer's explanation? There's a cost to get the car here as it's not on their lot (dealer swap) plus they need to make some money on the deal. Thoughts? Last edited by Rigormortis; 08-09-2010 at 04:52 PM. Reason: more info

08-09-2010, 09:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Xan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MA Posts:99999999999999 Posts: 3,301 Drives: 370Z 40th Aniversary Rep Power: 25	I'm pretty sure you always pay sales tax in the state you register the car. Either way, congrats! __________________

08-10-2010, 01:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
WShade Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 765 Drives: 09 370Z T/S/N Rep Power: 188	@Rigormortis I would contact another dealer if at all possible. May be worth it to have one of our supporting dealers ship you a car. Both dealers above have already said they can do better than VPP. Numbers at your current dealership look like shenanigans to me. __________________ Q50S Q60 RS400

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08-09-2010, 08:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rigormortis Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 29 Drives: Nissan murrano Rep Power: 15	I've pulled the trigger. I found a dealership in IL willing to do full VPP pricing. However, the taxes are 1.25% higher in IL than Iowa so I simply countered the offer I received in Iowa to be equal with the price I would have got in IL minus the additional tax. Now I just have to wait for my baby to arrive

08-09-2010, 10:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rigormortis Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 29 Drives: Nissan murrano Rep Power: 15	doh! A quick google search confirms it. I had no idea. I've only purchased cars in Iowa. Don't I feel silly? Funny that the dealership was good with my counter given my faulty logic. Makes me think I left cash on the table, but oh well... at some point you gotta move forward

08-10-2010, 06:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
NismoJim Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New England Posts: 35 Drives: 2010 Nismo MB Rep Power: 15	I think you got a good deal, however... I just purchased my Nismo last month and was eligible for VPP. I was able to negotiate almost another $800 off the VPP Nismo price from the dealer (for a car they did not have in stock!). FYI.. If you go to TrueCar: 2010 Nissan 370Z 2dr Coupe Man NISMO - New Car Price Report, this report gives you the real value of the vehicle. The Nismo is a great car and you still got a good deal! Congrats on your purchase, good luck, and enjoy! Jim

08-10-2010, 08:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
koeppelnissan Supporting Nissan Dealer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: queens Posts: 859 Drives: 14 6MT Trng Spt Nav Rep Power: 17	I will usually take the VPP claim number, as Nissan will give us a little extra money, but sell the car for a few hundred less than the VPP price!