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iamtherhino 02-18-2009 09:30 AM

$5000 market adjustment!
 
I was just looking at a black on black 370Z Touring with the Sport package at Neil Huffman here in Louisville. Beautiful car. Then I notice the cute little sticker noting the $5000 mark up. They want $42,000 for the car before they start tacking on the TT&L and all their dealer fees. With car sales as horrible as they are right now, you think a dealer would realize that they are lucky to be carrying a brand that is still producing desirable cars and just and sale the thing.

nogoodname 02-18-2009 09:32 AM

walk away and go to another dealership....simple

these cars are not worth mark-ups

iamtherhino 02-18-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 32240)
walk away and go to another dealership....simple

these cars are not worth mark-ups

Oh, I did. "Market adjustments" make my blood boil. They should say, "We think we have something special, so we are going to screw you to the tune of: $5000." Every Nissan dealer in the US will have a half dozen to choose from in a month. Greedy bastards! :mad:

nogoodname 02-18-2009 09:38 AM

we all know these cars are wonderful, but in reality it's not worth a mark up.

for example....... I am the 1st to own a G37 on the forums and i got 1K below msrp.....haha

everyone was waiting for delivery of the G's and i pop out of nowhere into the forums with a G...

m4a1mustang 02-18-2009 09:57 AM

The Solid Red 6MT Touring/Sport I tested the other day had a $3k markup. I think it came out to $41,995 or something like that. Though who would pay that anyways? If I was ready to buy I'd offer invoice!

CrownR426 02-18-2009 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 32245)
we all know these cars are wonderful, but in reality it's not worth a mark up.

for example....... I am the 1st to own a G37 on the forums and i got 1K below msrp.....haha

everyone was waiting for delivery of the G's and i pop out of nowhere into the forums with a G...

LOL! :bowrofl:
Yeah, seriously do not pay over msrp.
They should be treating you like a prince when you walk into those dealership doors.
Always remember they need to make the sale to you!
Either they negotiate or b the **** out!

iamtherhino 02-18-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 32262)
LOL! :bowrofl:
Yeah, seriously do not pay over msrp.
They should be treating you like a prince when you walk into those dealership doors.
Always remember they need to make the sale to you!
Either they negotiate or b the **** out!

I won't. I sold cars briefly when I first got out of the Army. Then I realized that car sale people have no integrity and I left.

CrownR426 02-18-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iamtherhino (Post 32266)
I won't. I sold cars briefly when I first got out of the Army. Then I realized that car sale people have no integrity and I left.

Oh cools :tup:
Yeah, most of the sales people have no clue what they are selling.
They just know how to talk. Most of us probably know more about the car than anyone in the dealership.

nogoodname 02-18-2009 11:22 AM

do they still pull that 3 coats of clearcoat option
and underside spraying non sense option.......hahahha


saw it in a movie and thought that was absolute crap

Q_USAF 02-18-2009 08:20 PM

Give it time...
 
Dealers will no doubt have to come to the realization that in order to move the 370z, they will have to negotiate. The market will dictate this..very soon. Just wait until Nissan posts their 1st quarter sales figures.

frost 02-18-2009 08:21 PM

I just keep my fingers crossed that those are the dealers I keep hearing about going out of business

nogoodname 02-18-2009 08:23 PM

A BMW dealership closed over here....lol


I felt like having a G and Z meet in their lot...lol...it was vacant

frost 02-18-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 32549)
A BMW dealership closed over here....lol


I felt like having a G and Z meet in their lot...lol...it was vacant

lol, good place for a car meet. You know you can fit a lot of cars there.

nogoodname 02-18-2009 08:26 PM

^^ and they left the big BMW sign........lol

would be too funny...and 1 KM down the highway is Nissan HQ......lol


would be the best meet ever for pics

bkunzi01 02-20-2009 09:12 AM

I just got hit with the 5k mark up on long island. All the dealer got from me was a laugh. What I found funny was the car was stickered at 43k and it said 5k markup but it was a touring with no nav. or sport so it really should have said 8k markup lol...

Minicobra1 02-20-2009 09:47 AM

My car had a $5K market adjustment price on the window sticker. I told the salesmen you've got a sale if you just take that off and sell me the car at MSRP. Well, after 2 hours of back and forth negotiating, I walked out twice :rofl2: I was in my car getting ready to drive away and the salesmen comes out and ask what's it going to take to sell me this car. I told him, I told you 2 hours ago what it would take, now I'm leaving. He said to wait and went back in.
They finally caved in and gave me the car at MSRP. :tup:

I probably could have got the car a few hundred less then msrp, or even lower if I would have waited, but you got to keep in mind that I purchased the car the very same weekend they hit the showroom floors in So Cal. My car had been on the lot for about 24 hours, so I'm pretty happy with just not paying a mark up. I have 2600 miles on my car now, and loving every minute of it. :icon17: Don't pay a mark-up, they will cave. The best thing to do is write them the down payment check, so they see you are serious, then claim your price, if they don't budge, then walk away.

m4a1mustang 02-20-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 33296)
My car had a $5K market adjustment price on the window sticker. I told the salesmen you've got a sale if you just take that off and sell me the car at MSRP. Well, after 2 hours of back and forth negotiating, I walked out twice :rofl2: I was in my car getting ready to drive away and the salesmen comes out and ask what's it going to take to sell me this car. I told him, I told you 2 hours ago what it would take, now I'm leaving. He said to wait and went back in.
They finally caved in and gave me the car at MSRP. :tup:

I probably could have got the car a few hundred less then msrp, or even lower if I would have waited, but you got to keep in mind that I purchased the car the very same weekend they hit the showroom floors in So Cal. My car had been on the lot for about 24 hours, so I'm pretty happy with just not paying a mark up. I have 2600 miles on my car now, and loving every minute of it. :icon17: Don't pay a mark-up, they will cave. The best thing to do is write them the down payment check, so they see you are serious, then claim your price, if they don't budge, then walk away.

Yeah, I'd say that's a pretty good deal for the timing. I remember when the '05 Mustangs hit the showrooms you couldn't get one without paying a $5k "market adjustment." Even though Ford is selling most of their cars are 50% off right now I anticipate they are going to mark up the 2010 Mustangs, too.

Greg 02-20-2009 10:17 AM

The way the industry is now and a lot of these numskulls are still trying to pull this crap.. And then they wonder why they went out of business.. :shakes head:

SoCal 370Z 02-20-2009 12:07 PM

When we purchased this vehicle it was at the last minute, and the last stop, as we were finalizing a deal on another brand when our son called and said to see whether the new Z was out—so we did. The window sticker also added other items on a separate sticker that placed the car at approximately $3,000 over sticker. It was an interesting purchase as the dealership had just received three 370Z and there was one being sold as we were closing just an hour before we did; we watched him drive away. I chose to walk on the initial deal and told them we would wait until later in the year, but because of our credit rating the manager wanted to try to sell, and succeeded. Since I have friends in the industry I simply told them that, and they immediately cut through all the nonsense, hard-sell pitches, and back-n-forth tomfoolery. When you get to know the process, and the people behind it, you realize that they are simply like other people. Yes, there are the rotten ones, and then are some very good people in automotive sales—just like any other profession. We received more than a fair deal, and could have gone lower, but a fair deal is where I like to settle as it always pays off in the long-run when you have service and warranty issues.

alan93rsa 02-20-2009 08:44 PM

I purchased a sport/touring 6 speed last Saturday for $3000 off sticker, zero add ons. My local dealer wanted full sticker and couldn't understand why I would drive 2 hours to get it from another dealer! If he would have come within $500 of the other dealer I would have gone with him.

Strange market.

MightyBobo 02-21-2009 08:15 AM

Even the new Camaro is going to sell for sticker price from most dealerships. Selling a car can be rough now a days, with the economy the way it is. Only an idiot will pay a dealer mark up on these cars, or any really. Unless its very limited quantity (IE, ZR1), you can pay invoice on a new car for the most part.

nogoodname 02-21-2009 08:17 AM

^^ the problem is us Canadian never really get info on what the invoice price is...
I guess we just have to try and low ball them.....lol

MightyBobo 02-21-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 33714)
^^ the problem is us Canadian never really get info on what the invoice price is...
I guess we just have to try and low ball them.....lol

My method for negotiation is simple: after figuring out which car I want, I say, "I want to see the invoice". They like to play the, "Well, I'll get the invoice...if you buy the car today". Sure, I'll do that, if I get the price I want. Which is generally about invoice lol...

Tough to low ball without something to gauge where to start low-balling. Hence, why the invoice comes in handy :)

nogoodname 02-21-2009 08:22 AM

^^ the game is harder up here then, we go in blind sighted and hope for the best

MightyBobo 02-21-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 33718)
^^ the game is harder up here then, we go in blind sighted and hope for the best

Consumer Reports is your friend? For like, $10 you can get a full financing report on there for any vehicle. Maybe not the 370 yet, though. Either way, Invoice pricing GENERALLY varies with the price of a vehicle. So, for a 30K vehicle, I'd assume about 2000-3000 off of MSRP for invoice pricing, and gradually increasing as the vehicles price increases.

However, not a safe assumption with things like, say, GM trucks. I got my $33K 08 Silverado, for $24K hahaha.


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