370z lease pricing ridiculous?!

Gunzero · 05-01-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Demon370z

Dude...your being a real mcA**hole right now and not understanding my point. I called up 7 dealerships 4 in florida, 3 in new york and a white 370z with a sports package and automatic transmission cannot be found. Now do you see why its such a hard thing to do? 2 dealerships in the east coast have that exact 370z.

In the end, you should grow a pair and call a dealership and find out yourself and come comfront me again. Damn, 1 post on this forum and I already found a F**King idiot.

If you have money to spend then go spend it. You should also try contacting a forum sponsor dealership like Fontana/Lou Fusz Nissan.

nextbesthing · 05-02-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by craniac24

Dude...you're basically admitting to yourself that you're getting scammed, but in the same breath you're saying that you have no choice? How about you grow a pair and tell the guy to go f**k himself, and then haul your girly *** to another dealer?

Seriously...why is that such a hard thing to do?

By the way, you do realize that another dealership can locate the car you want, even though they don't have it in their own inventory....don't you?

+1

What's wrong with you OP?

MindFusion FX · 05-01-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Demon370z

For how many months are you leasing the vehicle at 519 a month and how many months for purchase?

Did they run your credit yet?

39/mo lease and 72/mo purchase. I'm going to see if I get it to like 530 for purchase. They didn't run my credit but I told the what my credit was and they gave me a quote based on that.

Demon370z · 05-01-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MindFusion FX

39/mo lease and 72/mo purchase. I'm going to see if I get it to like 530 for purchase. They didn't run my credit but I told the what my credit was and they gave me a quote based on that.

Hmm, im glad you told me those numbers as I have to put 1,000 down more and pay 515 to lease the vehicle? Damn

72 months for 575? Yeah thats $41,400. Leasing works out cheaper if you get it for that price lol. You should definitely haggle them down, thats ridiculous.

MindFusion FX · 05-01-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Demon370z

Hmm, im glad you told me those numbers as I have to put 1,000 down more and pay 515 to lease the vehicle? Damn

72 months for 575? Yeah thats $41,400. Leasing works out cheaper if you get it for that price lol. You should definitely haggle them down, thats ridiculous.

Yes I intend on haggling. I haven't made a counter offer. I just wanted to see where they'd start with pricing. I kno I can knock the lease down to 480 and purchase to 530. I'll let u kno how it goes.

elmz · 05-04-2010, 12:49 PM

I have to agree with Carniac, you made it sound like you had no choice and you never raised any type of concerns. If I was offered $339 and they came back and said it was $469, naturally I would say "wow! thats a big change, why?" Then in the end it came out to $515 and they wanted more for a down?! You left a lot to be mentioned.

Anyway, my point is, this is a good forum, trust me, I've had a Z awhile and there are far worse Z forums out there. If you are going to post something, atleast be open to some criticism and state everything so we can best reply.

Obviously, you got a bad deal, and if they treat you that way in the beginning imagine how they would treat you after? Keep looking around I'm sure you'll find a good offer.

Good luck!

Demon370z · 05-04-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz

I have to agree with Carniac, you made it sound like you had no choice and you never raised any type of concerns. If I was offered $339 and they came back and said it was $469, naturally I would say "wow! thats a big change, why?" Then in the end it came out to $515 and they wanted more for a down?! You left a lot to be mentioned.

Anyway, my point is, this is a good forum, trust me, I've had a Z awhile and there are far worse Z forums out there. If you are going to post something, atleast be open to some criticism and state everything so we can best reply.

Obviously, you got a bad deal, and if they treat you that way in the beginning imagine how they would treat you after? Keep looking around I'm sure you'll find a good offer.

Good luck!

Thank you all for your insight. I have been checking around at other dealerships and they want no less than $541 a month to lease a 2010 370z. I would like to know of anyone else who has been quoted cheaper than that price with $3,000 down as I would travel to buy the vehicle cheaper somewhere else.

MindFusion FX · 05-04-2010, 04:05 PM

here..i hope this helps

Demon370z · 05-05-2010, 09:31 PM

Dude thats an awesome spreadsheet you have there. I see that they are NOT giving you any discounts on the vehicle what so ever. It seems that were pretty much in the same price range as if I were to lease than purchase the vehicle I would be at $42,885 for a 2010, automatic, base Z, with a sports package and you would be at around $42,500.

If me and you were to either finance the vehicle, it would be about 2,000 cheaper but still affordable from the get go because we would still have to pay the interest rate which is about 6.7% here in Florida. After looking at your estimate, I am going to go to the dealership tomorrow and get the vehicle at $515 a month for 39 months with 3,000 down and just fight for the 15,000 miles as I am currently being offered 12,000 miles. Thanks for the upload.

craniac24 · 05-05-2010, 09:42 PM

6.7%?? Wow...you really are being taken for a ride. These salesmen must know how badly you want that car.

MindFusion FX · 05-05-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Demon370z

Dude thats an awesome spreadsheet you have there. I see that they are NOT giving you any discounts on the vehicle what so ever. It seems that were pretty much in the same price range as if I were to lease than purchase the vehicle I would be at $42,885 for a 2010, automatic, base Z, with a sports package and you would be at around $42,500.

If me and you were to either finance the vehicle, it would be about 2,000 cheaper but still affordable from the get go because we would still have to pay the interest rate which is about 6.7% here in Florida. After looking at your estimate, I am going to go to the dealership tomorrow and get the vehicle at $515 a month for 39 months with 3,000 down and just fight for the 15,000 miles as I am currently being offered 12,000 miles. Thanks for the upload.

thats the quote i got without haggling with them and thats with $2000 down. I've already been offered $490 with the same $2000 down. With $3000 you should get to $470 at most!

silvrevo · 05-17-2010, 11:15 AM

Demon, I would get your money back and start over. Try giving Lou in STL a call. He is doing them for a grand under invoice, which will get your cap costs down.

I just called him.

You will also need the money factor, which is your apr on the lease.

I like leasing, you get more car for the money.

If you buy the car you pay FULL sale price in taxes, which you will never see back.

If you plan on buying it, how long do you have to own it before your not upside down? 4 years or better?

And you can get in and out of cars much better. I like to have a new car every 3-4 yrs.

Right now Im looking at leasing a 2010 370z. Since they just came out, the lease will be much stronger.

Also only money you want to put down on a lease is sec. dep. first month payment.
If you put a large amount down, then total your car. Your out that money.

So I like leasing, it has to be for the right person,,, and yes I have crunched the numbers over and over.

Get you money back and start over. Call a dealer that says they will do a grand under invoice.

JDubya · 06-02-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by silvrevo

Demon, I would get your money back and start over. Try giving Lou in STL a call. He is doing them for a grand under invoice, which will get your cap costs down.

I just called him.

You will also need the money factor, which is your apr on the lease.

I like leasing, you get more car for the money.

If you buy the car you pay FULL sale price in taxes, which you will never see back.

If you plan on buying it, how long do you have to own it before your not upside down? 4 years or better?

And you can get in and out of cars much better. I like to have a new car every 3-4 yrs.

Right now Im looking at leasing a 2010 370z. Since they just came out, the lease will be much stronger.

Also only money you want to put down on a lease is sec. dep. first month payment.
If you put a large amount down, then total your car. Your out that money.

So I like leasing, it has to be for the right person,,, and yes I have crunched the numbers over and over.

Get you money back and start over. Call a dealer that says they will do a grand under invoice.

this probably is not the norm, but a friend of mine had to trade in his '09 base w/ sport 2 weeks ago and the dealership gave him 25.5k for it, which was just enough to cover the outstanding balance on the 72 month loan on the car. so...while im sure the fact that he was buying an altima from them played into the fact that they were willing to go up that high(although kbb has the trade-in for an '09 around that value), im pretty sure even with aggressive financing like a 72 month loan without much down, you wont be upside down on it for 4 years...

but im sure whether or not you pay invoice vs msrp on the car and if you finance tax/tags etc has a lot to do with it. i know my friend's initial loan was something like 31k for the car, not entirely sure. anyways, i went off on a tangent, just saying i dont think it'll take 4 years to get positive equity out of a 370z, even with an aggressive loan. but i've heard that 370's are commanding a high resale value right now at least(saw they were voted best in class resale this year)..maybe some of the dealers on here can shed some light there.

DRoc7822 · 05-19-2010, 12:17 AM

Im thinking that it was 339 if you have the best credit available and they might of left out something in that price. Its a marketing ploy prolly to get you in there. And prolly only 5% of the population can get the car for 339. Now dont take this the wrong way but 469 is the price youd pay maybe cause of your credit rating. And then with tax tag and all that good stuff pushes it up to 515 a month. But I could be wrong.. as I dont know a whole lot about leasing. If the dealer isnt willing to get the car you want then go to another dealership till you find the car you want. Its really a buyers market when it comes to cars, if you dont like what 1 dealership is giving...go to another till you find one that is willing to serve you. Your making the sales guy richer...so he should treat you like royality for however long your at the dealership is my opinion on buying a car.

Demon370z · 05-21-2010, 09:46 PM

I have already began leasing the car at $511 a month for 39 months with 3,000 down. I tried about 15 other dealerships and no matter what, they would not decrease the payment or would just run my credit score and drop it lower. The dealership in new york is a bunch of scum bags but I just went along with it and got the car from them at that price because they were the only dealership with a PW 2010 370z Auto w/ Sports Pkg. At any rate, I appreciate all the concerns and opinions I have been provided to by the members on this forum and no matter what, I was told this by two other dealerships, NO ONE can lease a 370z for 339 a month, that it is just a scam to bring people in there. So, I just went along with the deal after having my credit ran 6 times and having the dealership get me the car at this price.

I understand that you guys feel I could have gone to another dealership. I have went to 12 other dealerships with no success. This is my quote, down payment, and for this amount of months I must lease the 370z. Last week I flew to NY and drove the 370z back down to FL and enjoyed every bit of the breaking in cycle.

475 miles a tank on premium
350 miles a tank of regular

These times were all at 85-100 mph the entire way.

As far as the lease discussion goes, please continue to post your lease quotes and pricing in your area if need be so.

05-05-2010, 09:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
craniac24 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ronkonkoma, NY Posts: 339 Drives: 2010 PG Roadster Rep Power: 403	6.7%?? Wow...you really are being taken for a ride. These salesmen must know how badly you want that car. __________________ 2010 6MT PG Roadster w/Sport & NAV. Stillen Exhaust, Stillen GIII Intake, Eibach Springs, H&R Spacers 15f/20r, SPC Rear Camber Kit. Thanks to Vinny Ten Racing!

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05-04-2010, 12:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 18	I have to agree with Carniac, you made it sound like you had no choice and you never raised any type of concerns. If I was offered $339 and they came back and said it was $469, naturally I would say "wow! thats a big change, why?" Then in the end it came out to $515 and they wanted more for a down?! You left a lot to be mentioned. Anyway, my point is, this is a good forum, trust me, I've had a Z awhile and there are far worse Z forums out there. If you are going to post something, atleast be open to some criticism and state everything so we can best reply. Obviously, you got a bad deal, and if they treat you that way in the beginning imagine how they would treat you after? Keep looking around I'm sure you'll find a good offer. Good luck!

05-05-2010, 09:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Demon370z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orlando Posts: 16 Drives: nothing right now Rep Power: 16	Dude thats an awesome spreadsheet you have there. I see that they are NOT giving you any discounts on the vehicle what so ever. It seems that were pretty much in the same price range as if I were to lease than purchase the vehicle I would be at $42,885 for a 2010, automatic, base Z, with a sports package and you would be at around $42,500. If me and you were to either finance the vehicle, it would be about 2,000 cheaper but still affordable from the get go because we would still have to pay the interest rate which is about 6.7% here in Florida. After looking at your estimate, I am going to go to the dealership tomorrow and get the vehicle at $515 a month for 39 months with 3,000 down and just fight for the 15,000 miles as I am currently being offered 12,000 miles. Thanks for the upload.

05-17-2010, 11:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
silvrevo Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: usa Posts: 12 Drives: 335i Rep Power: 15	Demon, I would get your money back and start over. Try giving Lou in STL a call. He is doing them for a grand under invoice, which will get your cap costs down. I just called him. You will also need the money factor, which is your apr on the lease. I like leasing, you get more car for the money. If you buy the car you pay FULL sale price in taxes, which you will never see back. If you plan on buying it, how long do you have to own it before your not upside down? 4 years or better? And you can get in and out of cars much better. I like to have a new car every 3-4 yrs. Right now Im looking at leasing a 2010 370z. Since they just came out, the lease will be much stronger. Also only money you want to put down on a lease is sec. dep. first month payment. If you put a large amount down, then total your car. Your out that money. So I like leasing, it has to be for the right person,,, and yes I have crunched the numbers over and over. Get you money back and start over. Call a dealer that says they will do a grand under invoice.

05-19-2010, 12:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
DRoc7822 Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 67 Drives: 08 Mazdaspeed 3 Rep Power: 365	Im thinking that it was 339 if you have the best credit available and they might of left out something in that price. Its a marketing ploy prolly to get you in there. And prolly only 5% of the population can get the car for 339. Now dont take this the wrong way but 469 is the price youd pay maybe cause of your credit rating. And then with tax tag and all that good stuff pushes it up to 515 a month. But I could be wrong.. as I dont know a whole lot about leasing. If the dealer isnt willing to get the car you want then go to another dealership till you find the car you want. Its really a buyers market when it comes to cars, if you dont like what 1 dealership is giving...go to another till you find one that is willing to serve you. Your making the sales guy richer...so he should treat you like royality for however long your at the dealership is my opinion on buying a car.

05-21-2010, 09:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Demon370z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orlando Posts: 16 Drives: nothing right now Rep Power: 16	I have already began leasing the car at $511 a month for 39 months with 3,000 down. I tried about 15 other dealerships and no matter what, they would not decrease the payment or would just run my credit score and drop it lower. The dealership in new york is a bunch of scum bags but I just went along with it and got the car from them at that price because they were the only dealership with a PW 2010 370z Auto w/ Sports Pkg. At any rate, I appreciate all the concerns and opinions I have been provided to by the members on this forum and no matter what, I was told this by two other dealerships, NO ONE can lease a 370z for 339 a month, that it is just a scam to bring people in there. So, I just went along with the deal after having my credit ran 6 times and having the dealership get me the car at this price. I understand that you guys feel I could have gone to another dealership. I have went to 12 other dealerships with no success. This is my quote, down payment, and for this amount of months I must lease the 370z. Last week I flew to NY and drove the 370z back down to FL and enjoyed every bit of the breaking in cycle. 475 miles a tank on premium 350 miles a tank of regular These times were all at 85-100 mph the entire way. As far as the lease discussion goes, please continue to post your lease quotes and pricing in your area if need be so.