Question About Future Buying (Nismo)

370zlove3 · 12-08-2009, 02:59 AM

Seems like there is a lot of competition going on with the automakers.
First we have the V6 Mustang which now produces more HP, Chevy's Z28 Camaro, etc... I'm pretty sure Nissan has its radar on sight with them!

I have finally made my decision to wait until next winter to buy a 370Z - I'm probably going to opt for a Nismo but I'm aware of the competition.

I don't know my history with the 350Z but should I wait for next year to see if Nissan will drastically improve the 370Z and the Nismo in terms of performance?

Sure, we get a new color and some some cabin air filter and what not, but with the 350Z's history, will the 370Z get the same treatment in terms of performance? If I have to wait past next year's winter to go buy one, I will. And before anyone call me out on the performance comment, I mean stock specifications and not upgrading with Nissan's accessories aka catback exhaust.

One last question, this has nothing to do with the question above but rather the color. Which color requires the least amount of washing and cleaning to look good? And if you never waxed before or do not plan to, will it be okay?

azn370z · 12-08-2009, 03:15 AM

If you're really thinking of waiting another year to buy a z because you think nissan may increase the hp you may never buy a z. Once they increase the hp in the 370z, the z35 will only be 2 year away or less.

Nissan most likely won't upgrade the engine until the 4th model year if ever. And when they do increase the power it will most likely be by 10-20 hp.

Silver requires the least amount of care and I usually wash my z every 6 months. But when I wash it I use zaino and take a couple hours.

coaster · 12-08-2009, 03:41 AM

There will always be something better and greater in the future. I would suggest that you get something that you can enjoy now. You can always add power later! Good luck!

Forrest · 12-08-2009, 06:10 AM

I agree with the above. There is always going to be something better. Also i dont think there will be a major increase in HP.

theDreamer · 12-08-2009, 08:27 AM

First, the V6 Mustang may produce more power than the current Z but it does not mean it will be faster (Straight/curve/etc.). The V6 Mustang is meant to compete against the V6 Camaro for the economy car.
Second, the Z28 Camaro is still yet unconfirmed, one day they say it is on and the next it is not. I would really not bet on a still rumored car being produced, and only look at what they currently have.
There will always be something faster produced the next year from someone, but what you need to do is find the car that fits you today and when you buy do not worry about other cars.

areyouin729 · 12-08-2009, 09:18 AM

Sounds like all you want to do is say you have the fastest car, not the car you like the best

HP does NOT equal fastest car

Nismo isn't worth buying just for a few extra HP, you can do that on your own, the wheels, aero package, interior, and spoiler set the Nismo off.

vipor · 12-08-2009, 09:42 AM

The Nismo IS NOT faster than the regular Z34 really. It's faster around the corners due to the upgraded suspension and wider tires. I bought my Nismo for the upgraded suspension, body, and wheels. I did not put much faith into the extra 18hp that it claims to have.

sidenote: the stock Z is faster than the new mustang, both v6 and GT (not 500).

LETSGOEERS06 · 12-08-2009, 10:08 AM

They have a vid. on youtube that tests the ford mustang gt against the 370 and genesis the Z killed them in all categories....

vipor · 12-08-2009, 10:27 AM

yeah, saw that vid, it was hilarious. the stang lost the 1/4 by like a second-ish; the hyundai was 2 seconds or so behind.

Road & Track just compared 7 or 8 cars for "best factory drift car" and the Z came in 3rd behind the M3 and Vette. The only reason the Z was 3rd was due to the VDC locking up upon braking (while turned "off") and a shitty e-brake.

Micas · 12-08-2009, 10:52 AM

Usually, this conversation happens on gaming forums when somebody is debating buying a new computer now vs. a year from now. People that think that way should never buy because they'll always be disapointed they didn't wait.

vipor · 12-08-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micas

Usually, this conversation happens on gaming forums when somebody is debating buying a new computer now vs. a year from now. People that think that way should never buy because they'll always be disapointed they didn't wait.

lol yeah i'm with ya there. i've been working on getting a Z since they came back out in 03. i got really lucky with my timing as the Nismo had just been released like 6 weeks previous. i wasn't even shopping for one at the time but i happened across one at a dealer a month before i purchased

dang370z · 12-08-2009, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LETSGOEERS06

They have a vid. on youtube that tests the ford mustang gt against the 370 and genesis the Z killed them in all categories....

that vid was hot stuff

i think white is easiest to keep
might be the area but most white cars I see looks clean until you stand in front of it

370zlove3 · 12-08-2009, 12:17 PM

Is Nismo a good buy if you are not looking to mod your car in any way?

And why is that the regular 370Z is faster than the Nismo one? It doesn't make any sense! Is it because of the automatic transmission? I have heard numerous stories how the auto is faster. I wonder if the Nismo ever gets an auto, will it beat a regular 370Z?

I'm concerned because ever since the Camaro SS beat the 370Z Nismo around the Laguna Seca track (I guess this track caters around straight line performance cars since the track is mostly "straight lines"?), I had doubts. Anyway, I have checked this one site that posts lap times to justify the purchase of the Nismo - I'm hoping the Nismo will post more times against the SS and beat all of the times.

Oh and the color issue. I'm leaning towards white.

theDreamer · 12-08-2009, 12:26 PM

If you want to mod then buying the Nismo is not the best bargain.
Also the Nismo 370z has gotten some negative hits because of the tires they used, some are saying that is the reason for the less than stellar results.

A Camaro SS is nice, if you are into straight line racing. Yes it can do well around the curves, but the bigger body, weight, etc. is a turn off for anything other the straight line. Also, that laguna seca lap was a magazine result, not saying good or bad but anything from a magazine should be taken with a grain of salt (even things that favor the 370z). What you need to do is take a day and schedule a test drive for the Z and Camaro SS back to back and try to hit all the same points during a test drive. Not just the performance/handling but also the little things you use while driving.

vipor · 12-08-2009, 12:27 PM

make sure you sit inside a Camaro first too. i've read some people post that they were sold on one until they saw/felt/used the interior.

12-08-2009, 02:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
370zlove3 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Posts: 73 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 16	Question About Future Buying (Nismo) Seems like there is a lot of competition going on with the automakers. First we have the V6 Mustang which now produces more HP, Chevy's Z28 Camaro, etc... I'm pretty sure Nissan has its radar on sight with them! I have finally made my decision to wait until next winter to buy a 370Z - I'm probably going to opt for a Nismo but I'm aware of the competition. I don't know my history with the 350Z but should I wait for next year to see if Nissan will drastically improve the 370Z and the Nismo in terms of performance? Sure, we get a new color and some some cabin air filter and what not, but with the 350Z's history, will the 370Z get the same treatment in terms of performance? If I have to wait past next year's winter to go buy one, I will. And before anyone call me out on the performance comment, I mean stock specifications and not upgrading with Nissan's accessories aka catback exhaust. One last question, this has nothing to do with the question above but rather the color. Which color requires the least amount of washing and cleaning to look good? And if you never waxed before or do not plan to, will it be okay?

12-08-2009, 03:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 490	If you're really thinking of waiting another year to buy a z because you think nissan may increase the hp you may never buy a z. Once they increase the hp in the 370z, the z35 will only be 2 year away or less. Nissan most likely won't upgrade the engine until the 4th model year if ever. And when they do increase the power it will most likely be by 10-20 hp. Silver requires the least amount of care and I usually wash my z every 6 months. But when I wash it I use zaino and take a couple hours. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

12-08-2009, 06:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Forrest Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california 707! Posts: 677 Drives: 09 370z Blk 6mt sprt Rep Power: 258	I agree with the above. There is always going to be something better. Also i dont think there will be a major increase in HP. __________________ my pictures http://www.the370z.com/members/forrest-albums-370z.html

12-08-2009, 08:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	First, the V6 Mustang may produce more power than the current Z but it does not mean it will be faster (Straight/curve/etc.). The V6 Mustang is meant to compete against the V6 Camaro for the economy car. Second, the Z28 Camaro is still yet unconfirmed, one day they say it is on and the next it is not. I would really not bet on a still rumored car being produced, and only look at what they currently have. There will always be something faster produced the next year from someone, but what you need to do is find the car that fits you today and when you buy do not worry about other cars. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

12-08-2009, 09:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	The Nismo IS NOT faster than the regular Z34 really. It's faster around the corners due to the upgraded suspension and wider tires. I bought my Nismo for the upgraded suspension, body, and wheels. I did not put much faith into the extra 18hp that it claims to have. sidenote: the stock Z is faster than the new mustang, both v6 and GT (not 500). __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-08-2009, 03:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
coaster Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Jose Posts: 249 Drives: 09 370z PW 6MT Rep Power: 16	There will always be something better and greater in the future. I would suggest that you get something that you can enjoy now. You can always add power later! Good luck!

12-08-2009, 09:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
areyouin729 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Conshohocken Age: 43 Posts: 301 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 17	Sounds like all you want to do is say you have the fastest car, not the car you like the best HP does NOT equal fastest car Nismo isn't worth buying just for a few extra HP, you can do that on your own, the wheels, aero package, interior, and spoiler set the Nismo off.

12-08-2009, 10:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
LETSGOEERS06 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Morgantown,WV Age: 40 Posts: 116 Drives: 06 Jeep GC Overland Rep Power: 16	They have a vid. on youtube that tests the ford mustang gt against the 370 and genesis the Z killed them in all categories.... __________________ 2006 Grand Cherokee Overland Whats the worst thing about loosing to a 5000lb SUV Having to tell your friends what just handed you your a$$ - SRT8

12-08-2009, 10:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	yeah, saw that vid, it was hilarious. the stang lost the 1/4 by like a second-ish; the hyundai was 2 seconds or so behind. Road & Track just compared 7 or 8 cars for "best factory drift car" and the Z came in 3rd behind the M3 and Vette. The only reason the Z was 3rd was due to the VDC locking up upon braking (while turned "off") and a shitty e-brake. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-08-2009, 10:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
Micas Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: D/FW Posts: 54 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe Rep Power: 16	Usually, this conversation happens on gaming forums when somebody is debating buying a new computer now vs. a year from now. People that think that way should never buy because they'll always be disapointed they didn't wait.

12-08-2009, 12:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
370zlove3 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Posts: 73 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 16	Is Nismo a good buy if you are not looking to mod your car in any way? And why is that the regular 370Z is faster than the Nismo one? It doesn't make any sense! Is it because of the automatic transmission? I have heard numerous stories how the auto is faster. I wonder if the Nismo ever gets an auto, will it beat a regular 370Z? I'm concerned because ever since the Camaro SS beat the 370Z Nismo around the Laguna Seca track (I guess this track caters around straight line performance cars since the track is mostly "straight lines"?), I had doubts. Anyway, I have checked this one site that posts lap times to justify the purchase of the Nismo - I'm hoping the Nismo will post more times against the SS and beat all of the times. Oh and the color issue. I'm leaning towards white. Last edited by 370zlove3; 12-08-2009 at 12:20 PM.

12-08-2009, 12:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	If you want to mod then buying the Nismo is not the best bargain. Also the Nismo 370z has gotten some negative hits because of the tires they used, some are saying that is the reason for the less than stellar results. A Camaro SS is nice, if you are into straight line racing. Yes it can do well around the curves, but the bigger body, weight, etc. is a turn off for anything other the straight line. Also, that laguna seca lap was a magazine result, not saying good or bad but anything from a magazine should be taken with a grain of salt (even things that favor the 370z). What you need to do is take a day and schedule a test drive for the Z and Camaro SS back to back and try to hit all the same points during a test drive. Not just the performance/handling but also the little things you use while driving. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

12-08-2009, 12:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	make sure you sit inside a Camaro first too. i've read some people post that they were sold on one until they saw/felt/used the interior. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

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