heck I got mine for $500 under invoice and that was a dealer trade where I had to pay the $600 in trucking fees even. no dealer fee at all. I guess maybe it's only in CA, but lots of people getting more than $1k under invoice.

More than 1k under invoice seems crazy. that's losing money. Maybe I need a reality check, but I hope not. I have been selling for 700 below invoice and making a couple hundred in profit, just seem more then 1k below is nuts. I don't think that everybody that comes on here is going to see a deal like that, that's why I am a little skeptical. What was the dealer fee in Cal..1000.00

no dealer fee at all.

Damn, good job.

I hear you. I'll say this, it's a large dealer, and they still have lots of Zs on the lot. They want to move '09 inventory, I reckon.

Dunno if I'll even go with them since they are not very close, it'll be a day-long affair to get there and back home :tiphat: but man it is tempting.And still have to convince wifey that yellow is what SHE wants, lol.

That's easy, just wave your hand in front of her face and use the jedi mind trick

oh wait, I calculated with the destination fee. so, I actually I did even better than I thought, around $1100 under invoice on a dealer trade. because mine was a long distance dealer trade I didn't end up as well off as the others. this dealer was selling cars in stock and local dealer trades for like $2600 under invoice.

Holy cow, I wish I was getting that kind of deal. What exactly are dealers fees considered to be? The doc fees? Transporting or the destination fee? Just wanted to know. I'm kind of jealous of the 1000 under. I don't think that is gonna happen for me, seeing how I really think it is gonna be a pain for them to dealer trade. Oh well, guess I'll sleep on it tonight.

There is a red Z in PA right now on eBay going for $34,150 "Buy It Now" price. 6MT/Sport/Touring

That is about $1100 under Invoice. The car has 20 miles on the odo.

Why didn't I think of that? Thanks Fuzzie! :tup:

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Got an email from this dealer today. They "didn't notice" that I wanted the sport option :ughdance:.

They came back with $36550. I countered with $35500 :happydance:

^^ And it begins!

Over/under invoice is very dependent on the dealers inventory. If they don't have the Z on the lot, it's gonna be tough to negotiate to invoice. If they have 20 Zs on the lot, a few hundred below invoice shouldn't be hard this time of year.

For 2010, I'd expect a lot of dealers to stand firm between sticker and invoice for a few months before inching towards invoice mid-year.

Of course, I may also have no idea what I'm talking about. You've been warned!!:tiphat:

No, it ends! I'm on my way to buy a Silver 2009 6MT/Touring/Sport w/Splash and mats. Price $35000 with no dealer fee + tax and title.

:happydance:

Congrats!