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perfectnobody 11-15-2009 12:44 PM

Looking to buy
 
live in the Burlington, NJ, and will be looking to purchase a 2009 Red manual 370z with sports package (no additional options required) middle of December.

looking at both dealerships and private sellers. i'm looking at both used and new ones. might be interested in black and blue if i can't find red, but red is first choice.

PM me with an offer and i will get back to you, or point me in the direction of anyone you know who might be interested.

thanks!

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Trips 11-15-2009 01:54 PM

:iagree: give him a great deal joe! :tup:

kdo2milger 11-15-2009 02:29 PM

try here as well

Find Your Car: Nissan 370Z Listings Near Cliffside Park, NJ 07010 - AutoTrader.com

LETSGOEERS06 11-20-2009 10:38 AM

What ever you do dont goto west winsor nissan. Ive had a bad experience there, and a buddy of mine tried to get his altima there and got screwed.

koeppelnissan 11-21-2009 04:54 PM

PM sent!

spinhead 11-23-2009 09:42 AM

2009 Nissan 370Z in White Marsh, MD- 6146508 at carmax.com

370Zsteve 11-23-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spinhead (Post 292578)

$29,788* for a Base + Sport? That's a helluva price, although the ad does not list the miles on the odo.

perfectnobody 11-24-2009 05:07 AM

thanks for all the response's and PM's. much appreciated.

question: i noticed Fred Bean is having a Black Friday promo where they will pay your PA sales tax on select vehicles. there doesn't seem to be Nissan's involved and being the i am NJ, the PA sales tax does not apply to me (i think, correct me if i am wrong). what i am trying to find out is, does anyone know of any dealerships in NJ doing the same thing, will pay NJ sales tax, and include 370z's?

highly doubt it, but thought i should ask just the same. let me know if you have info on this.

today, i'll embark on my first dealership visit. it should be fun :)

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 293758)
thanks for all the response's and PM's. much appreciated.

question: i noticed Fred Bean is having a Black Friday promo where they will pay your PA sales tax on select vehicles. there doesn't seem to be Nissan's involved and being the i am NJ, the PA sales tax does not apply to me (i think, correct me if i am wrong). what i am trying to find out is, does anyone know of any dealerships in NJ doing the same thing, will pay NJ sales tax, and include 370z's?

highly doubt it, but thought i should ask just the same. let me know if you have info on this.

today, i'll embark on my first dealership visit. it should be fun :)

You do know that your sales tax will come right off your Federal income tax this year, right?

Oh and please post the deals you find this week in my thread:

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...nt-prices.html



:tiphat:

Eric 11-24-2009 05:59 AM

You can also search Oodle.com for your area.

perfectnobody 11-24-2009 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293766)
You do know that your sales tax will come right off your Federal income tax this year, right?

Oh and please post the deals you find this week in my thread:

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-pricing-ordering-discussions/11499-end-model-year-2009-what-current-prices.html


:tiphat:

errr... kindly elaborate big bold :)

with official proof or links on this

didn't know that, but if so, that'll be freaking sweet (peter griffin style)

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 293769)
errr... kindly elaborate big bold :)

LOLZ, it's part of the Obama stimulus. All new autos purchased before Dec 31 2009 come right off the top of your taxable income :tiphat:

Dont forget to post the deals you find in my thread, mate!

perfectnobody 11-24-2009 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293771)
LOLZ, it's part of the Obama stimulus. All new autos purchased before Dec 31 2009 come right off the top of your taxable income :tiphat:

Dont forget to post the deals you find in my thread, mate!

really?! that's awesome, where can i read this? so how does that work, i still have to pay it though, but i'll get it back when i do my taxes?! Great! thanks for the info, definitely makes my purchase much more easier as i have been accounting for $3,000 dollars as sales tax (i think, my numbers might be off) which i might get back (assuming your info is correct... i believe you...lol) next year...


will post my visit later, firefox was not able to open that link though, you might want to fix it.

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 293775)
really?! that's awesome, where can i read this? so how does that work, i still have to pay it though, but i'll get it back when i do my taxes?! Great! thanks for the info, definitely makes my purchase much more easier as i have been accounting for $3,000 dollars as sales tax (i think, my numbers might be off) which i might get back (assuming your info is correct... i believe you...lol) next year...


will post my visit later, firefox was not able to open that link though, you might want to fix it.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...nt-prices.html

Ya, you have to pay it at sale, then you whack it off the tax return. You can google the subject................

Matt 11-24-2009 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 293775)
really?! that's awesome, where can i read this? so how does that work, i still have to pay it though, but i'll get it back when i do my taxes?! Great! thanks for the info, definitely makes my purchase much more easier as i have been accounting for $3,000 dollars as sales tax (i think, my numbers might be off) which i might get back (assuming your info is correct... i believe you...lol) next year...


will post my visit later, firefox was not able to open that link though, you might want to fix it.

Let's say you make $100,000 this year. If you pay $5,000 in taxes on the Z, then you'll pay taxes on $95,000 of your income in 2010. It's a write-off or "deduction" not a true credit.

New Car Tax Rebate- Obama Economic Stimulus Plan: Cash Back on 2009 Vehicle Purchase, Not Tax Credit on Federal Return | Suite101.com

perfectnobody 11-24-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293779)
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...nt-prices.html

Ya, you have to pay it at sale, then you whack it off the tax return. You can google the subject................

thanks
found this

!!!GREAT NEWS

thanks for that, best news ever since i was not expecting it. this actually makes buying a 2009 model more attractive than buying a 2010 since you may not receive this stimulus in 2011 tax returns... :)

will keep you posted!

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 293780)
Let's say you make $100,000 this year. If you pay $5,000 in taxes on the Z, then you'll pay taxes on $95,000 of your income in 2010. It's a write-off or "deduction" not a true credit.

New Car Tax Rebate- Obama Economic Stimulus Plan: Cash Back on 2009 Vehicle Purchase, Not Tax Credit on Federal Return | Suite101.com

Thanks, Matt.

It's like putting money in an IRA (almost).

Matt 11-24-2009 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293782)
Thanks, Matt.

It's like putting money in an IRA (almost).

Which reminds me. I really have to max mine out before I do my taxes. I forget and then I'm too lazy to amend my return.

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 293783)
Which reminds me. I really have to max mine out before I do my taxes. I forget and then I'm too lazy to amend my return.

You can add the money right up to April 15 2010

Matt 11-24-2009 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293786)
You can add the money right up to April 15 2010

I do my taxes in Feb and never feel like amending, so I usually just spend my extra money irresponsibly on things like a 370z or something....:tup:

perfectnobody 11-24-2009 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 293780)
Let's say you make $100,000 this year. If you pay $5,000 in taxes on the Z, then you'll pay taxes on $95,000 of your income in 2010. It's a write-off or "deduction" not a true credit.

New Car Tax Rebate- Obama Economic Stimulus Plan: Cash Back on 2009 Vehicle Purchase, Not Tax Credit on Federal Return | Suite101.com

so basically, they take the amount of tax you pay on a "Z" (i think it's about $3,000 for base plus sports... not 100%) and deduct that from your gross income for the year and you are only taxed on the remaining...

so you are not actually getting$3,000 back, just getting taxed less.

still better than i was expecting in the first place, so it's still great!

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 293790)
so basically, they take the amount of tax you pay on a "Z" (i think it's about $3,000 for base plus sports... not 100%) and deduct that from your gross income for the year and you are only taxed on the remaining...

so you are not actually getting$3,000 back, just getting taxed less.

still better than i was expecting in the first place, so it's still great!

Don't forget that you may wind up in a lower tax bracket after the deduction.

Matt 11-24-2009 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 293790)
so basically, they take the amount of tax you pay on a "Z" (i think it's about $3,000 for base plus sports... not 100%) and deduct that from your gross income for the year and you are only taxed on the remaining...

so you are not actually getting$3,000 back, just getting taxed less.

still better than i was expecting in the first place, so it's still great!

Yep, not a true credit like the new home buyers get, but still not bad! Especially when you add it up with mortgage interest, charities, etc.

Quote:

Don't forget that you may wind up in a lower tax bracket after the deduction.
I'm going to have to look hard at it this year, more than normal. Because of a substantial raise this year, it'll be the first time I'm even close to the next tax bracket. There may be a few lucky charities out there if math is on their side!

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 293794)
Yep, not a true credit like the new home buyers get, but still not bad! Especially when you add it up with mortgage interest, charities, etc.



I'm going to have to look hard at it this year, more than normal. Because of a substantial raise this year, it'll be the first time I'm even close to the next tax bracket. There may be a few lucky charities out there if math is on their side!

If you are now above $80k income, get ready for sticker shock, Bubba!

perfectnobody 11-24-2009 07:19 AM

so after reading this article to try and understand this better... how does this push you up into another tax bracket, i thought it would push you down,

for example (based on article) lets say your total income for the year is $78,000 putting you in the 25% bracket and you get a tax deductible of $3,000 for buying a Z, wouldn't that make your total taxable income $75,000? or is it the other way round with the $3,000 increasing your total taxable income to $81,000 pushing you into the 28% bracket (don't know why it would, maybe someone can clarify)

thanks!

370Zsteve 11-24-2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 293822)
so after reading this article to try and understand this better... how does this push you up into another tax bracket, i thought it would push you down,

for example (based on article) lets say your total income for the year is $78,000 putting you in the 25% bracket and you get a tax deductible of $3,000 for buying a Z, wouldn't that make your total taxable income $75,000? or is it the other way round with the $3,000 increasing your total taxable income to $81,000 pushing you into the 28% bracket (don't know why it would, maybe someone can clarify)

thanks!

You are confused. The $3000 reduction would keep you in the same tax bracket, maybe even put you in a lower one. If your gross income was $81k, you would be taxed at a $78k rate after the tax credit.

perfectnobody 11-24-2009 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293827)
You are confused. The $3000 reduction would keep you in the same tax bracket, maybe even put you in a lower one. If your gross income was $81k, you would be taxed at a $78k rate after the tax credit.

that's what i thought the first time

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293792)
Don't forget that you may wind up in a lower tax bracket after the deduction.

so you meant this as a good thing then...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 293798)
If you are now above $80k income, get ready for sticker shock, Bubba!

i guess i got confused by this, i didn't get the meaning, thought it was a bad thing

thanks for the clarification! :tiphat:

spinhead 11-24-2009 08:02 AM

Tax brackets are applied incrementally anyway, it's not a big deal to hit the next one. It's not like all your income will be taxed at the higher level.

JMA 11-25-2009 11:36 PM

...just be aware that in the states that don't have state income tax, like Texas, you have always been able to deduct vehicle taxes and so under the new incentive plan (that runs out in Dec) you won't be able to do anything new. In other words, you can't deduct the taxes twice in those states.

JMA 11-25-2009 11:52 PM

Some are not understanding federal tax properly. There are only 3 rates for most people. You pay 10% on the income up to $8,350, then you pay 15% on the income between 8,350 and 33,950, and then 25% on the income between 33,950 and 82,250. So getting a write off of $3000 will save you $750 if you make over 36,950 (33,950+3,000) and only slightly less if you make under that. The tables in the back of the 1040 forms show a different percentage for each income level because they don't go into this detail, because many people won't understand or calculate it properly. If you make 78k/yr and you can take off 3K in taxes, you'll save 25% of the 3K regardless of what your overall/average taxation rate is since that is just a mix/average of the 10%/15%/25% rates that are applied to different proportions of your income.

perfectnobody 11-26-2009 05:52 AM

buying out of state
 
hi guys, i am a New Jersey resident and i wanted to know whats been your experience buying out of state with regards to paper work and stuff.

is it easier to just buy within the state you reside in, or is there no difference if lets say i buy in another state (lets say NY or PA). i only ask because, i want to be able to go to a dealer, give him all my info, come back in couple of days and pick up the car with title, license plate and everything done. (i'll take care of insurance myself, of course) but was wondering what are the realistic expectations i should have concerning paperwork.

if these services are not offered by dealerships, let me know as well, or if there are hidden fees, or if its actually just easier to get all this done myself.

thanks!

370Zsteve 11-26-2009 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 296439)
hi guys, i am a New Jersey resident and i wanted to know whats been your experience buying out of state with regards to paper work and stuff.

is it easier to just buy within the state you reside in, or is there no difference if lets say i buy in another state (lets say NY or PA). i only ask because, i want to be able to go to a dealer, give him all my info, come back in couple of days and pick up the car with title, license plate and everything done. (i'll take care of insurance myself, of course) but was wondering what are the realistic expectations i should have concerning paperwork.

if these services are not offered by dealerships, let me know as well, or if there are hidden fees, or if its actually just easier to get all this done myself.

thanks!

If you buy in your home state, the dealer will do everything for you (for a fee, of course). If you buy out-of-state, you will get a temp registration from that state so you can drive the vehicle home. Then, you can go and spend some quality time with your local friendly DMV clerk. :icon17:

And if you bought in-state, your dealer can give you a temp registration and plates. A new registration will arrive in the mail in a few days. (At least in CT). If you have mandatory insurance laws (doesn't everybody at this point?) and you give your agent the VIN, they can fax an insurance card to the dealer and you'll drive off the lot the same day.

perfectnobody 11-26-2009 06:07 AM

A to Z event
 
i believe this will be over this month (correct me if i am wrong), but has anyone been able to take advantage of any deals or incentive's regarding this while's this promo has been going on for the purchase of a Z?

anyone know of any black Friday deals happening that apply to Z's.

just curious, i am real close to becoming a Z and trying not to miss out on any deals happening around this time of the year.

the one dealership i went to said the nissan promo's did not apply to the Z's (370zsteve, there were no great deals that's y i did not post anything), but i was confused since the promo said A to Z.

does anyone have any info on this?

perfectnobody 11-26-2009 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 296444)
If you buy in your home state, the dealer will do everything for you (for a fee, of course). If you buy out-of-state, you will get a temp registration from that state so you can drive the vehicle home. Then, you can go and spend some quality time with your local friendly DMV clerk. :icon17:

surprisingly, our local DMV Mount laurel. NJ are actually pretty friendly, and there are hardly any lines most time's. the most i have spent there is 30 minutes, but i have never done any car stuff, just my license.

either way, i'd still prefer to just have the dealership handle all that, but thanks for the heads up

perfectnobody 11-26-2009 06:29 AM

A to Z 27th - 30th
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 296445)
i believe this will be over this month (correct me if i am wrong), but has anyone been able to take advantage of any deals or incentive's regarding this while's this promo has been going on for the purchase of a Z?

anyone know of any black Friday deals happening that apply to Z's.

just curious, i am real close to becoming a Z and trying not to miss out on any deals happening around this time of the year.

the one dealership i went to said the nissan promo's did not apply to the Z's (370zsteve, there were no great deals that's y i did not post anything), but i was confused since the promo said A to Z.

does anyone have any info on this?

just realized that the A to Z is actually from Friday the 27th till Monday the 30th

let the search for the best deal begin

i might be a Z owner very soon:driving:

UPDATE:
on the official Nissan website, says sale will end Jan 4th 2010

http://www.nissanusa.com/

370Zsteve 11-26-2009 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 296445)
i believe this will be over this month (correct me if i am wrong), but has anyone been able to take advantage of any deals or incentive's regarding this while's this promo has been going on for the purchase of a Z?

anyone know of any black Friday deals happening that apply to Z's.

just curious, i am real close to becoming a Z and trying not to miss out on any deals happening around this time of the year.

the one dealership i went to said the nissan promo's did not apply to the Z's (370zsteve, there were no great deals that's y i did not post anything), but i was confused since the promo said A to Z.

does anyone have any info on this?

It's an "A to Z" promo but no special deals on the Z. Marketing fail! :icon14:

perfectnobody 11-27-2009 11:29 AM

called carmax, and got this offer... is it any good

29,788 - new red 370z, sports, mat's and splash gaurd
1,649 - nissan extended warranty 6 years, 100,000 miles
99 - processing fee
118 - title

$31,555 - total (will have to pay taxes later)

only thing is i have to drive down to maryland

here is the car

also, the guy run my credit (after i was hesitant) and said i beat their usual rate of 7% and higher that they usually give, giving me 6. something, forget exactly, but said i could get a lower rate with another credit union.

he also said if you run your credit check multiple times in 2 weeks, it counts as one check.

can anyone confirm this as well. my credit is very precious to me...lol

any insight will be appreciated. also, anyone have experience with carmax before?

thanks.

also, whats a good company for insurance?

370Zsteve 11-27-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectnobody (Post 297413)
called carmax, and got this offer... is it any good

29,788 - new red 370z, sports, mat's and splash gaurd
1,649 - nissan extended warranty 6 years, 100,000 miles
99 - processing fee
118 - title

$31,555 - total (will have to pay taxes later)

only thing is i have to drive down to maryland

here is the car

also, the guy run my credit (after i was hesitant) and said i beat their usual rate of 7% and higher that they usually give, giving me 6. something, forget exactly, but said i could get a lower rate with another credit union.

he also said if you run your credit check multiple times in 2 weeks, it counts as one check.

can anyone confirm this as well. my credit is very precious to me...lol

any insight will be appreciated. also, anyone have experience with carmax before?

thanks.

also, whats a good company for insurance?

There's a Touring/Sport on eBay for $34,150 "buy it now", I think. For comparison purposes.

koeppelnissan 11-28-2009 05:48 PM

That car is no longer available, are you sure it had a Sport pckg? sounds a little too cheap. 6 yr 100 k warranty we can do for 1420!


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